#721
i've got strike one to educate one hundred, i think someone here uploaded it awhile ago. if you need it let me know, i can try and put it on somewhere...
#722
save the effort! i actually found a hard copy of it, and yesterday gave it a crisp new 300dpi scan. the machine OCR (tesseract) actually turned out really good (FNFI, i think cuz of the scan quality, or more likely i didn't use it right, didn't OCR well). i cut out + catalogued all the pics last night, and edited ch1 for OCR typos. will post soon!
#723
dont know if tesseract is better or not but AABBY finereader was OCRing shit really good when i tried it some years ago, but formatting was a hassle lol
#724
Tfw your partner starts reading settlers
#725
..as they pummel your Balls
#726
#727
holy shit
holy fuck
im going to hell
#728

psychicdriver posted:

holy shit
holy fuck
im going to hell


welcome

#729

psychicdriver posted:

holy shit
holy fuck
im going to hell


how nice that all the rhizzone posters' absentee fathers now share an acct here....

#730
Magon once angrily wrote his brother from prison: " The norteamericanos are incapable of feeling enthusiasm or indignation. This is truly a country of pigs. If the norteamericanos do not agitate against their own domestic miseries, can we hope they will concern themselves with ours?"
#731
http://readsettlers.org/green-nazi/text.html

This doesn't link to his book, it links to a review he wrote of a fascist book on the same topic
#732
only true 90s kids will remember www dot Nazi dot org
#733

cars posted:

only true 90s kids will remember www dot Nazi dot org



and only 2000s kids will make it reality


also lol at the person making a website named nazi.org, and clicking on the Need Help? button

#734
The marxo-teens in the youth wing of my org have suddenly become rabidly anti-Settlers and are denouncing it loudly on the socials medias ­čś×
#735
Its not uncommon for ppl in the marcyist orgs in the US to take that line apparently because its seen as be promoting black separatism contrary to their organizing goals. Other times its expressed as being because sakai is supposed to be pro-hitler, which is stupid, so i tend to think that people who say that mostly believe the former and use the latter as a smokescreen.
#736
it sorta tears apart the whole carefully crafted facade of settler communism and takes big dumps on progressive settler heroes. i imagine it's v disheartening to read for altruistic settler youth and rejecting it outright is easier than coming to terms with it
#737

c_man posted:

Its not uncommon for ppl in the marcyist orgs in the US to take that line apparently because its seen as be promoting black separatism contrary to their organizing goals. Other times its expressed as being because sakai is supposed to be pro-hitler, which is stupid, so i tend to think that people who say that mostly believe the former and use the latter as a smokescreen.



is the hitler thing just because he said that mein kampf is actually a well-written and enjoyable rant?

#738

ialdabaoth posted:

it sorta tears apart the whole carefully crafted facade of settler communism and takes big dumps on progressive settler heroes. i imagine it's v disheartening to read for altruistic settler youth and rejecting it outright is easier than coming to terms with it



We're in Ireland so they're just white (university educated, affluent) youth, not settlers. They're calling it idpol because it "puts race above class" lmao

#739
atch gotcha. sounds about par for the marxoteen course, to have read a whole lot of marx and a whole lot about class and capital, but to not really have considered imperialism and (neo)colonialism in a meaningful way or to have thought about how race/nationality creates a cascade of classes beyond a reductionist worker/owner dichotomy. something they might glean from a charitable read of settlers
#740

neckwattle posted:

does anybody know where Lenin actually said "nations become as classes"? FNFI also references it, but I can't find it in any of his writings.



best i can figure, it's a distillation of "imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism"

#741

kinch posted:

is the hitler thing just because he said that mein kampf is actually a well-written and enjoyable rant?


Something like that i think

#742

overfire posted:

We're in Ireland so they're just white (university educated, affluent) youth, not settlers. They're calling it idpol because it "puts race above class" lmao


Ime the comprehension of the racialization of class is pretty abysmal for most europeans. I feel like there's also a really bizarre fixation on voting is common even with the communists?

#743
'nations become as classes' in the US continental empire context, maybe it's cuz we're swimming in it, but it seems easier to see in the history than like, the monetary imperialism, or how the market is shaped by navies. normally the nation is shaped by the lumpen. the lumpen is the only economic class that generates nations. proletarians don't give a shit who they work next to and the bourgeoisie don't give a shit what color hands they cheat of their labor. maybe a language barrier is inconvenient, but after a labor is explained once it can be replicated to the survival of both producer and parasite. you can see this in the international character of both classes, from high finance to a construction crew. but for the lumpen mode of production, direct theft is not tolerated for very long, esp when performed by your neighbor. you can just walk over and kill him or lumpen him right back. lumpen stealing from lumpen just changes the location of goods, it does not generate a steady surplus for the parasite to consume. the only way the lumpen can reliably generate surplus, is by organizing with themselves (to not just circulate goods around inside a non-producing class), and gaining the political tolerance from laborers around them, by the old promise to only steal from rival nations. you can see this in the national character of this class, from the racist uniformed, organized lumpen, to the independent lumpen (one of the few crimes in the US with cross-national character, contrasting nation of victim to nation of criminal, is theft).

in the US continental-imperial lumpen period, why didn't well-armed, organized whites steal land from hard-off, unarmed whites? the lumpen-peasant invaders tolerated mass theft by their 'own', only from other nations. a super-national raiding party of the old euro nations, to steal from the many native nations, but not steal land from each other. and to steal labor from the many african nations and the chinese nation to build factory and rail. so decadent is babylon that in addition to smallpox and cholera they also imported the property system, to set their lumpen asses up as the landowning class and keep the theft flowing. so thus nations become as classes. preferably the parasitism is from other nations, but with the lumpen period a memory now, we're all paying rent to the ancestors of the scum class. i've got a real fat fuck i'm feeding now and his shitbag, nosy wife. race is fake, there's only class, and the ideological justifications that parasite classes cook up for themselves.

overfire posted:

We're in Ireland so they're just white (university educated, affluent) youth, not settlers. They're calling it idpol because it "puts race above class" lmao



#744

kinch posted:

is the hitler thing just because he said that mein kampf is actually a well-written and enjoyable rant?


yeah. there's that, the allusion he made to bankers being scapegoated like "the jews" after the crash, and generally daring to articulate any reasons for the rise of 20th century fascism outside of a conspiracy of finance capital.

#745


fuck these nazi bootlickers. every single one of these equivocating journalists and their editors are smug willing collaborators in systematic genocide and they'll be found just as guilty as Streicher if the indigenous people of this continent ever get their own Nuremberg
#746
isnt ireland a place where surplus value is circulated among the masses through finance and tech sectors?
#747

c_man posted:

Its not uncommon for ppl in the marcyist orgs in the US to take that line apparently because its seen as be promoting black separatism contrary to their organizing goals.


its sort of funny that they take this position because views that touched on settler colonialism were at least sometimes denounced as 'black nationalism' by leadership of the communist party USA way back in the 40s.

#748

overfire posted:

The marxo-teens in the youth wing of my org have suddenly become rabidly anti-Settlers and are denouncing it loudly on the socials medias ­čś×



And this, too, shall pass.

#749

overfire posted:

We're in Ireland so they're just white (university educated, affluent) youth, not settlers. They're calling it idpol because it "puts race above class" lmao



That's what Columbus said to the Indians just before he gypped em out of Manhattan.

#750

overfire posted:

We're in Ireland so they're just white (university educated, affluent) youth, not settlers. They're calling it idpol because it "puts race above class" lmao



the full scope of this one just hit me and it's truly breathtaking

irish marxists who'd have cancelled marx for his writings on the irish question, god help us all

#751
tbh thats basically a constant failure of irish marxists
#752
idk if this stuff still gets updated but ch. 4 sec. 3:

"These rein forcements were immediately useful in new offensives"

should be

"These reinforcements..."

or

"These reïnforcements..."

if youre young rich white and live in new york city
#753

ialdabaoth posted:

it sorta tears apart the whole carefully crafted facade of settler communism and takes big dumps on progressive settler heroes. i imagine it's v disheartening to read for altruistic settler youth and rejecting it outright is easier than coming to terms with it




these dorks probably had trouble coming to terms with howard zinn's history of the united states. settlers will melt their brains.

#754
i dont know, zinn seems to have been the main contributor to the myth that white masses were just misled into racism by a shadowy cabal of rich people, which is probably the foundational myth of the euroamerikkkan "left"
#755
its the palatable version of the settlers thesis tbf
#756
still cant get over how people unironically say it "promotes race war"
#757

sovnarkoman posted:

i dont know, zinn seems to have been the main contributor to the myth that white masses were just misled into racism by a shadowy cabal of rich people, which is probably the foundational myth of the euroamerikkkan "left"



Howard Zinn is definitely not that important

#758

sparklefeather posted:

or

"These reïnforcements..."

if youre young rich white and live in new york city



lol