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- babyhueypnewton posted in HANDS OFF SYRIA (2737 posts)
To what extent do you think Syria changed the U.S. position in the Middle East as a whole? It seems as if we are coming out of an important passage in the long story of American involvement in the region.
The U.S. was already exiting the Middle East before the so-called “Arab uprisings” kicked off. Whoever in the U.S. national security apparatus made the decision to stick around and redirect these uprisings against regional adversaries made a colossal mistake. I want to write about this one day because it’s important. I believe the Syrian conflict constitutes the main battlefield in a kind of World War III. The world wars were, in essence, great-power wars, after which the global order reshuffled a bit and new global institutions were established.
Look around you now. We have had a reshuffle in the balance of power in recent years, with Russia, China, Iran in ascendance and Europe and North America in decline. That’s not to say that Washington, London or Paris don’t have levers left to pull: They do. But it is on the back of the Syrian conflict that a great-power battle was fought, and in its wake, new international institutions for finance, defense and policymaking have been born or transformed.
I’m not just talking about the strengthening of the BRICS , the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, the Eurasian Union, etc. I mean the world’s networks are shifting hands, too. What will happen to Western-controlled shipping routes now that Asia has started to build faster, cheaper land routes? Will the SWIFT system survive when an alternative is agreed upon to bypass U.S. sanctions everywhere? There are so many examples of these shifts. It’s not to say that they are due to events in Syria, but rather that Syria triggered the great-power battle that unleashed the potential of this new order much more quickly and efficiently.
Keep in mind that World War III was never going to be like the other two conventionally fought wars…. It was always going to be an irregular war that would escalate on multiple fronts — not just regime change events, but financial pressures, sanctions, propaganda, political subversion activities, destabilization, increased terrorism, proxy fights and so on. The battle for global hegemony really began to unfold over Syria, though, when the Russians, Iranians and Chinese decided to draw a line and put up a fight. The world changed after that.
- trakfactri posted in Petrol's KKKonspiracy Library (905 posts)
- Elements in the U.S. government attempted a strategy of tension in 2016-2017 and a more localized one in Portland in 2018. You might recall the Buzzfeed article about a private gathering of white nationalists in a Dallas bar in April 2016 featuring Richard Spencer and Milo Yiannopolous who -- like the hired rent boy he is -- serenaded the Nazis to "America the Beautiful." Those were the only details Buzzfeed reported on about the event, but the night at the bar was in fact the after-party for a conference for members of the TRS forums which hosted various podcasts that were popular in the far right scene.
At the time, the main focus for activity at TRS was bullying nerds in the Republican Party and its organs like National Review who found Trump skeevy -- Yiannopolous' only real talent (it certainly wasn't the singing) was generating these kinds of online mobs -- as well as amplifying white nationalist messages online, spreading them to a conservative audience. At the time Yiannopolous was working directly for Steve Bannon. Once in the White House, a TRS podcaster would say on his program that Bannon was giving their movement "space to destroy." This strategy of tension rolled out with a series of escalating demonstrations culminating in the rally in Charlottesville in August 2017, which began with a neo-Nazi mob equipped with torches brutalizing a group of peaceful demonstrators -- who were lucky not to have gotten lynched on the spot.
The point of a strategy of tension being a government -- or elements within a government -- sponsoring terror attacks and other measures (violence, intimidation, etc.) by non-state groups to provoke political opponents into radicalizing to a degree that they can be better marginalized and suppressed by state forces. Fascists are natural (bribed) recruits for this, as fascist violence seeks to both challenge a state's monopoly on the use of force while identifying with the state in a war against "subversives" and "threats to the social order" and so on. But in this case, I think the strategy largely backfired with the murder of a girl the following day and Bannon's ouster from the White House days afterward. I think one reason it failed was the strategy the antifascists used to counter the right-wing mobilization. An interview with one participant published in September 2017 stated:
I think the antifascists had a deeper understanding of diversity of tactics. The presence of counter-protestors with a personal commitment to nonviolence was important, I think, and so were the diverse approaches of those who did use physical force, I mean as far as acting more offensively or defensively.
Unite the Right was all about image. They wanted three things: they wanted to look like victims of antifa/“SJW” aggression, to look like friends of the police, and to look like they were winning the physical battle in the streets. I think all those wires got crossed in Charlottesville because of the diversity of their opposition.
As a side note, we made a conscious decision not to do Saturday in black bloc. I think that helped in those specific circumstances.
So diversity of tactics was important. A lot of these alt-right people are scared of confrontation, even though they fantasize about power. You could tell that made it hard for them to psychologically switch gears; by the time they figured out how to deal with one kind of counter-protestor, the situation had changed and they had to go back to square one. They had to think too hard. They didn’t know if they were going to get punched or prayed at. And the whole time they’re getting pelted with paint balloons, and they just look silly.
Then you had macho types who reacted to that paralysis by going ham, charging in swinging by themselves. That was scary, because these were big dudes who understood violence, but it didn’t really serve their larger goals, and they lost fights because we would surround them and beat them back. It didn’t help those guys that their official rally was up a hill behind barricades.
Incidentally, it's clear this continued to happen in Portland with a right-wing gang regularly being driven to demonstrations in the backs of squad cars -- with text messages later released under public information act requests showing the police liaison advising members of the gang on how to avoid arrest for active warrants against them. This occurred after members stomped a civilian while roving around attempting to instigate fights (the civilian pressed charges). Portland is sufficiently remote, isolated and small enough that it's also a useful testing ground for staging civil unrest scenarios using demonstrations in federally-owned parks to grant DHS policing authority and equipped with pepperball guns -- with IRL human beings as the guinea pigs.
- cars posted in trooooooooooooops (165 posts)
- So there's a candidate for United States The President who was a Navy Troop spook in Afghanistan (where United States uh needed, a whole bunch of naval intelligence, for its Navy, in landlocked mountain country Afghanistan), and his only other qualification is being the mayor of "South Bend, Indiana", and he's got a whole bunch of money out of nowhere & the Washington press mysteriously wants him to be in all the debates and keeps writing stories pretending people like him, this Little Kid Mayor from Spooktown.
This post is to inform the postingship that the official position of this Web site is, He's An Op, and he's going to continue to prove it in more and more grotesquely absurd ways for the next year at least. And so we all got something to look forward to. Well bye.
- cars posted in Get off the off-site: Let's play "Real Life" (8092 posts)
- Petrol posted in so im going to the zizek-peterson debate tomorrow (52 posts)
- i was thinking about watching the debate but fortunately when i went to youtube i just ended up seeing this on repeat for five hours