#561
*saunters up to the press podium*

we do not reveal sources and methods, im sorry
#562
picked up a few books for source material on chapter 12:

Our Thing is Drum! pamphlet by Jim Jacobs/David Wellman
Equality of Opportunity: A Union Approach to Fair Employment by John Hope II
Blacks In The United States by Norval D. Glenn & Charles M. Bonjean

i don't think they're referenced in other chapters but putting it out there that i have hard copies

picked up the pamphlet at Lorne Bair Books, don't know how well known they are but they seem rad, wish I knew of them when I lived in VA Lorne Bair Books
#563
that store looks cool as shit

i got a bunch of old books from a guy whos moving to new york, including some pretty rare stuff, like the first english translation of 3 vols of capital. i might sell some of to them and then send the proceeds to .... the aclu
#564
I support your proposal to send money to All of the Communists Living in Uttar pradesh
#565
correction:

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png, not a pdf

#566
*streams of ftp messages reflect off my sunglasses in the pitch darkness of my lair* im on it
#567
i'm about to bite the bullet and re-activate my NYT archive account and will be sourcing all NYT shit that isn't sourced - wish me lunch
#568
Good luck, were all counting on you
#569
your public library probably has nyt archive access
#570

JohnBeige posted:

maybe you should do it now



ugh, fiiine, heres the copyright infringement you ordered

Chapter 2: https://mega.nz/#!4qZm2TiJ!fBtvOdBcMJx1EiYX4x8seCjjVuWGmPw-aXLWz_gMzAw
Chapter 3: https://mega.nz/#!B3hxHCxZ!c4tqPpL5Wsk6WKdMrLhNi4IMkViZK52gY8dVhV9d8lw
Chapter 4: https://mega.nz/#!hnhEASSA!yO9PzduRfQ2lJJbJ6amfYf2wfGBYLBqijb3nyIyIuJM


stego, ill invoice separately you via pm

#571

Bablu posted:

your public library probably has nyt archive access



he sourced so much from the NYT that it's just gonna be easier this way, but that's a good idea for the other ones like the wall street journal and such, thx

#572
sakai you magnificent son-of-a-bitch i read your footnotes: http://www.crepusculum.org/domus/lf/readsettlers_ch12_sources.zip

hiiiiiii stego, below is a link to your chapter 12 html page, BUT updated with links to the source material, per the style you used for chapter xiii. replace your current page with it, dump the zip file into your settlers-data/xii folder and ur golden...

http://www.crepusculum.org/domus/lf/ch12_UPDATED.html

notes on the notes... delicious...


i enjoy reading through entire business sections of the New York Times from the early 80's and not getting the ref. however demoralizing that is, i will continue sourcing other NYT stuff as mentioned before.

Edited by karphead ()

#573
very good.... going up in a sec
#574
well, that was a freebie. not many notes to chapter xi, here's the updated html and the one file that i got from the NYT:

http://www.crepusculum.org/domus/lf/ch11_UPDATED.html

http://www.crepusculum.org/domus/lf/04_NYT_12061982_EconomicFrustrationGripsManyDevelopingCountries.docx


#575

stegosaurus posted:

very good.... going up in a sec



um, i dont know computer well like karphead but i hope you can "put up" the stuff from chapters 1-4 at some point. thanking you.


edit: also chapter 12 refs 12 and 22 are borken

Edited by tears ()

#576
i'm going to format the pages with tears stuff

also:

#577
http://www.crepusculum.org/domus/lf/readsettlers_ch2-3-4.zip

http://www.crepusculum.org/domus/lf/ch2_UPDATED.html
http://www.crepusculum.org/domus/lf/ch3_UPDATED.html
http://www.crepusculum.org/domus/lf/ch4_UPDATED.html

goodnight

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#578
is that what i think it is...bwcause thankyou
#579
np, good work buddy

i can see why you gave up halfway through ch4 tho

#580
yeah, that chapter was loong, maybe...maybe....ill fiish it at some point
#581
hi stego - update the fucking pages
#582
update them or i'm out of sourcing them
#583
yeah,, and we want bread
#584

karphead posted:

update them or i'm out of sourcing them


solidarity. and if steg now proceeds to update the website, they are a strike breaker

#585
relax everybody, i'm still going to source settlers. sorry, i was drunkposting.
#586
all of the new stuff is up
#587
thank you
#588
lets launch rereadsettlers.org
#589
Two things I read recently thread reminded me of Settlers

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n08/perry-anderson/the-divisions-of-cyprus

Nor, since London refused to allow any legislative assembly in which the four-fifths of the population in favour of Enosis would enjoy a majority, was there any question even of self-government. The outlook at Whitehall remained: we hold what we have. If public justification was needed, Eden would provide one that was crude enough: ‘No Cyprus, no certain facilities to protect our supply of oil. No oil, unemployment and hunger in Britain. It is as simple as that.’



https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2016/04/09/fetishizing-family-farms/NJszoKdCSQWaq2XBw7kvIL/story.html

Agricultural expansion depended not upon the settling of America, but on continuous and fitful cycles of dispossession, settling, unsettling, and resettling. Nineteenth-century populations were highly mobile, and they often carved out ecologies and communities that were precarious, fragile, and intentionally temporary. Many farmers planted on a particular plot of land always with an eye on the exit: the fantasy of cheap, fertile land out West. Others went West, and when they found it, immediately fled back East in shock.

For the millions of slaves laboring in Southern agriculture, the notion of permanent settlement ran afoul of the stark realities implicit in the traffic of souls: Slavers sold their slaves to cover debts, to hedge declining labor productivity as slaves aged, to dispose of difficult or rebellious slaves, and for a thousand other reasons. The movements of individual slaves often demonstrated a complex pattern not of settlement and permanence, but of internal flow, migration, and transience that follows precisely the trajectory of cotton cultivation: southwest and downriver. For indigenous populations, the history of agricultural expansion was the history of repeated dispossession and forced resettlement on increasingly marginal lands.

Such highly mobile populations meant that family structures tended toward flexibility and contingency on the frontiers of agricultural expansion. On Northern farms, the family retained centrality as the unit of labor organization and many people traveled West as families.

But these families bore little resemblance to the farmer-homemaker model we often falsely ascribe to family farms. Rather, such families were sprawling, maximalist, and multigenerational affairs with only rough notions of gendered divisions of labor. Men were responsible for staple and field crops, and women were responsible for dairying, poultry, produce, cooking, and cleaning. Ideally, men’s labor generated a lump sum at harvest that covered the cost of the next year’s planting; women’s labor, by contrast, generated a steady stream of income year round — sometimes called “egg” money — to cover daily expenses. Regardless, flexibility was the watchword of the day. With survival at stake, everyone worked — gendered ideals be damned — even if it meant women contributed field labor during harvest and men mended their own socks. Neighbors pooled labor, and farms took on regular hired hands, and this too created kinship beyond blood relations...

Rural people applied a make-do attitude not just to work and family, but to sexual intimacy as well. Camps, bunkhouses, lodges, taverns, and saloons were spaces rife with intimate and sexual relations that directly contravened dominant middle-class notions of sexual propriety: homosexuality, sexual barter and commerce, public and semi-public sex, and cross-dressing and gender fluidity.



Second one is particularly interesting because it goes into the sexual and gender relations of settler families are tied to their material reality, destroying any teleology of gender and sex as progressing with the development of liberal capitalism and replacing it with sexual epistemes (although made complete by Marxism instead of flattened by Foucaultianism). I've always tried to take that concept seriously rather than unseriously as academics tend to do when they acknowledge it and then espouse politics that are indistinguishable from Clintonite Democrats.

#590
*pitch shifted* READ SETTLERS DOT ORG... FOREVER
#591
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/73vo7z/chapo_book_house_our_october_book_is_settlers_by/

lol who's responsible for this
#592
o7
#593
lmao
#594
doesnt look like any of them know what the book is about and also doesnt look like any of them are going to read it lol
#595
Someone make an account and post about it
#596

stegosaurus posted:

doesnt look like any of them know what the book is about and also doesnt look like any of them are going to read it lol


"is this the book that talks about class without giving whites a reacharound? count me out!!"

#597
#598
hahahahhahahahaha
#599
if settlers were just 180 blank pages, it would still be a cultural phenomenon by the sheer regularity of the behavior it elicits

like now when i see people arguing about the probable content of a work of media they refuse to consume, i think "oh, so it's the Settlers of (genre)"
#600

swampman posted:



I was wondering where spectralmarx went