#9561
I will never marry a troll.
#9562
"you may now kiss the bride"

*bride pulls out an epic le troll face mask*

#9563
i dropped out of college years ago due to mental illness, but recently audited a seminar which makes me want to go back, considering it was fun and i performed adequately. even if i don't go back, the experience helped with my intellectual confidence.

on top of that, the few close irl relationships i have are going well, and a good friend is going to be spending time in my neck of the woods the rest of the summer

also i'm drunk 😎

dave status: good
#9564
i like what i see here. return from the lathe.
#9565
yea, i'm sorry i left this site in that way. i got put on my back feet in that thread, really by my own unprocessed ignorances, that i don't feel comfortable talking about in public.

i am still working on scientific communism, the development of the new class, a class that can feed itself by machine autotrophy. specifically it is a device that pulls CO2 from the air in an acid gas scrubber, performing the water gas shift reaction against solar hydrogen, to form synthesis gas, and then fixes the carbon. it builds fixed carbon up chemically to make specific food molecules. the metabolic energy in these chemical bonds is sourced arbitrarily, via electricity from nuclear, wind, solar, etc. the machine sustains and reproduces the human biologically, and human hands will reproduce the machine. any people eating from it would constitute a new class, who would not need wages anymore to buy land-grown food. like marx wrote in capital 1, if the workers could eat from the air, then there would be no need for the wage. if this new class absorbs the extant classes, who might be very interested in eating from a food machine, instead of a life lived at the mercy of the class enemy-- if it absorbs them, it would metabolically free the land from agriculture, the genesis of both class society, and the fundamental cause of the holocene extinction. so it would be a novel answer to a very old question, the land question, our species capable of eating like the dominant form of earthly life, the plant kingdom. and it would be a novel answer to the contradictions of the day. nothing need die, plant nor animal, no parcels of land replaced with our grains, to feed us anymore. and if it can make the food molecules from atmospheric carbon, it will be able to make molecular medicines, textiles, carbon-negative building materials, dyes -- the range of organic chemistry.

such a class would have characteristics of the three historically revolutionary classes: the peasantry because it makes its own food from labor, the proletariat because it employs advanced scientific production, and the petty-bourgeoisie because it owns its own means. it will have nothing to offer the bourgeoisie or state-lumpen and will be an instant source of class conflict with these enemies. fortunately, unlike these five classes, it will arrive in history after the developments of class theory and People's War. i spend my metabolism testing this notion, until my saved wages run out, but the work is very slow-going. in my opinion, western communists are up to so much nonsense. third plenum of the belgian worker's party minutes transcribing communists, deleuze-pondering communists, videogaming communists. they should ask more of their hands and mind and attempt to build this machine, too. there have been a number of developments in the past 30 years, unexpectedly as a result of MOSFET lithography, spurning new basic fluidics research in the very low Reynolds number regime. it has made such a labor suddenly conceivable; the pieces are in place. you are a communist, it's your job to help take your species to its next stage. this is the material basis for that next stage. most won't, but you should: drop what you're doing and build it.

ok, back to work, goodbye again!
#9566
Big if true
#9567
If the specific food molecules that this machine produces don't include alcohol I'm joining the White Guards
#9568
on top of all that, toyo drove 3 hours on a moment's notice to come pick my ass up (after getting fired on the weed farm) and let me stay at his dad's place for a day while i got my shit together - a true rad
#9569
you talked about this machine a while ago, that last post clarified things, before i thought it was a revolutionary idea but very vague in how the machine would work or exist. its like the pixar film cloudy with a chance of meatballs
i think going past grain & animal culture for nutritional purpose is good and resolve one aspect of the rural/urban divide but this would mean that billions who currently work the land either for export purposes or the very few who still subsist from it would have to rush towards the cities or assemble new cities which would still have an impact on nature and would still mean that humans terraform the land to their needs and step on whatever is already living in those places. such a universal use device that can produce food and other consumables would necessitate massive amount of labor to produce in amounts where every city/village/clan/family/workplace/individual can share or have one. with the population growth and termination of the massive harvest it would mean the earth would have 3x if not 4x of its land turned into urban sprawl, and that the urban/rural divide would become a urban/wilderness one. either this would mean cities as we currently know them or urban planning that would be planified in a more intelligent way as to end commute times and demographical stacking which are reason amongst others as to why cities are places of alienation. nature becoming an alien entity to humanity with the absence of use aside from non nutritional resources and the entire humanity rushing to cities, with those cities having a different, more spread out configuration could mean a lot of the surface freed up from agriculture ending could enter the domain of the urban to provide everybody with shelter community and subsistence, if not the entire land, and what will be left of it after the ocean level maxxing out and the resulting disasters and population displacement, turning into a worldwide city, with more and less population dense areas and so on, but in an organized way where everyone could work and be housed and live amongst each other.
#9570
hi toyot
#9571

toyot posted:

ok, back to work, goodbye again!


sounds like an intruiging project, actually it reminds me once again of this book i read by the ukkk's #1 pol potist malcolm caldwell "the wealth of some nations". a major part of the book is about food systems and their resource inputs, he also introduces a cool concept called protein imperialism where there is a sort of warped exchange taking place where rich nations sell protein incomplete calories like grain in exchange for high quality protein rich food (such as fish meal) from poorer nations. he shows that in industrial agriculture for western consumers energy returns are actually far lower than one, i.e. much more energy is put in than is taken out and also showing that a significant amount of fossil energy at the time the book was written gets burnt in the context of food production, which also poses an entropic issue. All this to say that a truly sustainable (from the energy and resource pov) machine to make macro and micro nutrients is probably some contemporary version of something that will quite look like a pre-industrial agricultural practice.
anyway, regarding your idea, i have the objection that converting sun energy into a macro and micro nutritionally complete mixture is chemically very hard, and if not using and ensemble of plants, or at least some kind of organism, is probably not viable at all. For example, synthesizing all 20 amino acids from the ground up using small building blocks is hard and not possible to do with significant work, byproducts and energy inputs. Actually if you would find a simple way to do that you could probably publish it as an alt-Miller-Urey type origin of life candidate system. however, i agree it would be cool if people could photosynthesize with less middlemen than having to eat plants.

anyway, i really recommend to skim the pdf of that book because some of the question posed in there are close to the one you are trying to address.

#9572
i don't know shit about chemistry but i'm team crazy wizard toyot
#9573
some friends were brutally mugged, one of them beaten so bad they're going to be in a wheelchair for their wedding. i'm not feeling great about it!!!
#9574
im sorry. that sucks.
#9575
that's terrible, may they recover well
#9576
damn :(
#9577
is the longer-term prognosis good? full recoveries all around, i hope!
#9578
well, that was quick, i got a goddam job today


#9579

Constantignoble posted:

is the longer-term prognosis good? full recoveries all around, i hope!


multiple broken bones need to heal so we'll see, but ideally there will be minimal long term complications. thanks folks, the whole thing really took me off guard.

#9580
goondolences to your friend sv, hope they recover fully
#9581
ive been ok
#9582
Hope they get well soon man, a friend of mine some people tried to mug him and grab his bag but he pulled back and kept his bag and went tumbling off a bridge into the Seine. He didn't break anything luckily but he was sore for days. Like a week after supposedly the same people who had tried to get him stabbed three people. So it might have been lucky that he did fall.
#9583

karphead posted:

well, that was quick, i got a goddam job today



goongrats

#9584

cars posted:

karphead posted:


well, that was quick, i got a goddam job today




goongrats


and goondolences

#9585

Parenti posted:

Hope they get well soon man, a friend of mine some people tried to mug him and grab his bag but he pulled back and kept his bag and went tumbling off a bridge into the Seine. He didn't break anything luckily but he was sore for days. Like a week after supposedly the same people who had tried to get him stabbed three people. So it might have been lucky that he did fall.



was this near ivry by any chance

#9586

karphead posted:

on top of all that, toyo drove 3 hours on a moment's notice to come pick my ass up (after getting fired on the weed farm) and let me stay at his dad's place for a day while i got my shit together - a true rad


toyot told me where to visit when i went to the redwood national park area and i took every suggestion and it absolutely owned.

also the machine sounds like alchemy for communists?

#9587
i am not very good at mathematics, so i signed up for some free online courses in calculus.

i can't quite understand what the long game is for free university courses online... apart from the obvious rapid decline in university and an endless spiral toward a society flimsily built upon a gold-washed credentialism, it's rather opaque. surely, giving everything away for free (except the shining shitting stamp) is not out of some humanist passion for educating the public. of course, it could be a way for universities to defend themselves against the inevitably approaching barrage of lawsuits related to quality:use value:cost atrocities. now, they can say, 'well well well we showed you what you were buying before you did!'.

what else is it? the combination of every university in North Amerika combining to form a singular YouTube University wherein every graduate gets to choose between a rare NFT artwork or a VR headset to watch virtual sunrises after the world melts instead of a diploma? aren't those things better anyway?

i want to know the long game for youtube education
#9588
they might give some of the courses away in the hopes that you'll pay for a piece of paper from them as a certification later. or if you're MIT you're swimming scrooge mcduck style through piles of amerikkkan bloodsoaked defen$e dollar$ to the point where you don't even care if people can watch gilbert strange teach linear algebra for free or not.
#9589
love it when doctors parade assistants by you bc you've got an unusual condition they best ought to see while they have the chance
#9590

招瑤 posted:

love it when doctors parade assistants by you bc you've got an unusual condition they best ought to see while they have the chance



I'm somewhat of a medical marvel myself... I try to just appreciate the attention. It's neat to get fussed over by highly trained professionals

#9591

liceo posted:

what else is it? the combination of every university in North Amerika combining to form a singular YouTube University wherein every graduate gets to choose between a rare NFT artwork or a VR headset to watch virtual sunrises after the world melts instead of a diploma?


i think its a good question actually and my immediate suspicion would be that this kind of general transition to broadening the market ('democratizing education') is the most logical explanation, but more in the sense that there were already many compelling practical reasons to document lectures and have them available online (higher education becoming increasingly non-commital and being something you do 'on the side' for one), and it lowered the threshhold for making things available in a sense.

this still isn't really a satisfying explanation, in part because the textbook market and the attitude universities have towards other instances of maintaining proprietary rights to intellectual property make it obvious that they are a) not interested in even the propagandistic veneer of free information, and b) still actively and brutally committed to restricting the availability of information. maybe it just reveals how indifferent universities are to the actual education aspect of their operation, since they're happy to let students sit in on classes but will have some wannabe cop threaten to taze you if you sneak into a football game.

the most banal and plausible explanation might just be the combination of this lowered bar with the pressure to maintain a 'social media presence', with the transition from guest lectures videos to regular lecture videos just being natural enough to be arrived at by multiple institutions, but it definitely seems incomplete

#9592

stegosaurus posted:

they might give some of the courses away in the hopes that you'll pay for a piece of paper from them as a certification later. or if you're MIT you're swimming scrooge mcduck style through piles of amerikkkan bloodsoaked defen$e dollar$ to the point where you don't even care if people can watch gilbert strange teach linear algebra for free or not.


Imo its an acknowledgment that the primary function of the university isnt education. Its bestowing credentials and networking. This is actually how these programs are talked about by the universities themselves. Anyone can watch an MIT lecture but only MIT students are Smart® enough to get an MIT education out of it, meaning, employers have an assurance that anyone who actually went thru MIT have been carefully curated to be the Best and Brightest, and the job of the university is to match those people with employers (either in industry or in academia). Basically all the people running the university admins think this way.

#9593
it s actually a globalist ploy to deskill the jobs of honest hardworking middle class americans, hth
#9594

c_man posted:

stegosaurus posted:

they might give some of the courses away in the hopes that you'll pay for a piece of paper from them as a certification later. or if you're MIT you're swimming scrooge mcduck style through piles of amerikkkan bloodsoaked defen$e dollar$ to the point where you don't even care if people can watch gilbert strange teach linear algebra for free or not.

Imo its an acknowledgment that the primary function of the university isnt education. Its bestowing credentials and networking. This is actually how these programs are talked about by the universities themselves. Anyone can watch an MIT lecture but only MIT students are Smart® enough to get an MIT education out of it, meaning, employers have an assurance that anyone who actually went thru MIT have been carefully curated to be the Best and Brightest, and the job of the university is to match those people with employers (either in industry or in academia). Basically all the people running the university admins think this way.


This!!! ThHis!

They're giving away the knowledge for free but not the credential, and good luck monetizing knowing stuff if you can't brandish a fancy diploma to back it up

#9595
so in other words it launders their reputation without costing them anything
#9596
how did any of you idiots get past the 7th grade without realizing how shit the amerikkkan education system is
#9597
Well, it's not very hard to get past the 7th grade actually.
#9598
i got straight F's
#9599
goddam did i hate school
#9600

karphead posted:

i got straight F's


presses F to pay respects