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i have said it before and i will say it again: death to america
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So thats an account of a 'strategic hamlet', in a CIA funded magazine?
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i am proud this is happening in my old ass thread
#605
this thread deserves the nobel fuck prize
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there's some stuff on strategic hamlets, CIA and academia in the Vietnam thread. look for my reading of Mary McCarthy's "Vietnam".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_State_University_Vietnam_Advisory_Group

^ for example. lets join the dots ppl.

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tears posted:

jonestown was an MK-ULTRA concentration camp, read this: https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/Jonestown.html



This is really crazy

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Chthonic_Goat_666 posted:

there's some stuff on strategic hamlets, CIA and academia in the Vietnam thread. look for my reading of Mary McCarthy's "Vietnam".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_State_University_Vietnam_Advisory_Group

^ for example. lets join the dots ppl.






The university of Nebraska got a $50 million USAID contract to produce J for Jihad afghani children's books in the 80s

https://www.unomaha.edu/international-studies-and-programs/center-for-afghanistan-studies/index.php



Still being used today

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/7/afghan-fighters-americantextbooks.html

ISIS schoolbooks:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4995932/ISIS-schoolbooks-used-brainwash-children.html

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xipe posted:

"In 1985 American historian Arch Getty discovered that the Harvard Trotsky Archive had been purged of incriminating materials, but purged imperfectly. Getty also found evidence that Trotsky had indeed remained in contact with some of his former supporters inside the Soviet Union. Trotsky always strenuously denied this"

http://www.stalinsociety.org/2017/05/05/trotskys-lies-and-what-they-mean/

Hmm who was one of the few people who had access to trotskys archive before that?

"Isaac Deutscher had earlier worked in the closed archive but The Prophet Outcast, while referring to Trotsky correspondence at this time, makes no reference to these matters."

https://www.marxists.org/archive/broue/1980/01/bloc.html


wasn't this one of grover furrs things against trotsky

#610
What the hell is UNICEF actually for? Money laundering?
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very carefully
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my childhood best-friend used to brag that his father had worked on the kennedy assassination. I thought he was full of shit. Recently I looked him up, and here's his report. It's broken up into multiple pdfs, but it's mostly about Oswald's absence in Mexico City. Here he is playing himself in "On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald," which doesn't have a wiki entry.


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this is cracking me up. I'll probably see this guy christmas. What should I ask him?

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just found out theres some covert action bulletin issues in the internet archive that might be useful for anyone doing research into cia interventions and stuff like that https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Covert+Action+Information+Bulletin%22 there's an issue that talks about mlks assassination too for the people that were talking about that
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xipe posted:

Chthonic_Goat_666 posted:

there's some stuff on strategic hamlets, CIA and academia in the Vietnam thread. look for my reading of Mary McCarthy's "Vietnam".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_State_University_Vietnam_Advisory_Group

^ for example. lets join the dots ppl.



The university of Nebraska got a $50 million USAID contract to produce J for Jihad afghani children's books in the 80s

https://www.unomaha.edu/international-studies-and-programs/center-for-afghanistan-studies/index.php



Still being used today

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/7/afghan-fighters-americantextbooks.html

ISIS schoolbooks:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4995932/ISIS-schoolbooks-used-brainwash-children.html



can you get the rest of the book?

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may do
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lo posted:

just found out theres some covert action bulletin issues in the internet archive that might be useful for anyone doing research into cia interventions and stuff like that https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Covert+Action+Information+Bulletin%22 there's an issue that talks about mlks assassination too for the people that were talking about that



try here:: https://archive.org/details/@altviewstv-fanclub

#621
its about time to join some of these dots on a big board so we can gesticulate wildly at it



palafox posted:

can you get the rest of the book?



maybe get in touch with the university of nebraska-omaha?
the current director of the afghanistan department was invovled in the book project in he 80s.

also apparently pakistani/afghani teachers are still photocopying and and using them for their classes.
maybe it would be possible to get in touch online with someone who could ask someone to ask someone to make a copy?

#622
john raines, one of the ppl who exposed cointelpro, has died
http://www.philly.com/philly/obituaries/john-raines-84-civil-rights-activist-cleric-and-temple-prof-20171113.html
#623
Rip, to those who died
#624
popularity of mmorpgs in occupied korea? you better believe thats cia
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Collection of links here that could be useful
http://homosociologicus.com/western-nations-back-terrorists

Some discuss a possible (but not yet understood) switch in Imperial strategy since 911





Barnett declared that in order to maintain their hegemony over the world, the United States would have to « settle for less », in other words, to divide the world in two. On one side, the stable states (the members of the G8 and their allies), on the other, the rest of the world, considered only as a simple reservoir of natural resources. Contrary to his predecessors, Barnett no longer considered access to these resources as vital for Washington, but claimed that they would only be accessible to the stable states by transit via the services of the US army. From now on, it was necessary to systematically destroy all state structures in the reservoir of resources, so that one day, no-one would be able to oppose the will of Washington, nor deal directly with the stable states.

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One of the great differences between the thinking of Barnett and that of his predecessors is that war should not be waged against specific states for political reason, but against regions of the world because they are not integrated into the global economic system. Of course, we will start with one country or another, but we will favour contagion until everything is destroyed, just as we are seeing in the Greater Middle East. Today, tank warfare is raging in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt (Sinaï), Palestine, Lebanon (Ain al-Hilweh and Ras Baalbeck), Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia (Qatif), Bahreïn, Yemen, Turkey (Diyarbakır), and Afghanistan.

This is why Barnett’s neo-imperialist strategy will necessarily be based on elements of the rhetoric of Bernard Lewis and Samuel Huntington, the « war of civilisations » . Since it is impossible to justify our indifference to the fate of the people from the reservoir of natural resources, we can always persuade ourselves that our civilisations are incompatible.

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The US strategists like to compare their power to that of the Roman Empire. But that empire brought security and opulence to the peoples they conquered and integrated. It built monuments and rationalised their societies. On the contrary, US neo-imperialism does not intend to offer anything to the people of the stable states, nor to the people of the reservoirs of natural resources. It plans to racket the former and to destroy the social connections which bind the latter together. Above all, it does not want to exterminate the people of the reservoirs, but needs for them to suffer so that the chaos in which they live will prevent the stable states from going to them for natural ressources without the protection of the US armies.

Until now, the imperialist project ran on the principle that « you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs ». It admitted that it had committed collateral massacres in order to extend its domination. From now on, it is planning generalised massacres in order to impose its authority - definitively.


http://www.voltairenet.org/article197477.html
http://www.voltairenet.org/article197541.html
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xipe posted:

The US strategists like to compare their power to that of the Roman Empire. But that empire brought security and opulence to the peoples they conquered and integrated. It built monuments and rationalised their societies.



lol

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if the U.S. were really like Ancient Rome they would have statues of sexy toned Ba'athists all over D.C. by now
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toyotathon posted:

saw this and thought of this thread-- https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-made-the-moon-new-ideas-try-to-rescue-a-troubled-theory-20170802/

the reigning theory of the earth-moon system is that a giant impact knocked material off early earth, to form our weird moon. however simulations reveal that, if this were the case, the moon should be made of the impactor, not of earthly stuff. and when they test apollo moon rocks in the lab, they come back as basically the same as earth rocks. so now they're trying to think up a weirder story that makes the pieces fit when the reality is staring them in the face that the moon rocks are CIA


as fun an idea is all moon rocks being cia is there are moon rocks that weren't collected by astronauts(like samples taken by probes, including soviet ones) as well as lunar meteorites that have been found on earth.

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most of the discussion about that part of the giant impact hypothesis is focused on finding an explanation within the theory as to why the studied material doesn't show more non-Earth stuff, because the theory itself is the only one out there right now that fits most of the evidence without needing a lot of egregious ad hoc bullshit added to it
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afaik theia having the same isotope composition depends on it forming at L4 or L5 because accretion would have to build it to the size of mars before impact
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http://www.berlinartlink.com/2017/11/29/exhibition-parapolitics-cultural-freedom-and-the-cold-war-at-hkw/

‘Parapolitics: Cultural Freedom and the Cold War’ at Haus der Kulturen der Welt (HKW) reveals scandals, reshapes narratives, and interrogates ideologies. The exhibition uses the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency’s (CIA) secret funding of culture during the Cold War as a starting point to examine the politicized appropriations of 20th-century aesthetics, from realism to abstraction. ‘Parapolitics’—whose title refers to “soft power” tactics during the Cold War—challenges the retroactive “globalization” of Western modernism with the ideological and institutional structures that both buttressed and disseminated its canon. Abandoning the binary logic of the Cold War, the exhibition engages with historical ephemera and documentation, as well as works of contemporary art, to foster cultural hegemony.
#639

Another reason is most organizations today, due again probably to naivete about the workings of COINTELPRO, focus so much on "security culture." This is a serious error because this approach relies on false security actions like prohibiting cell phones in meetings and only permitting people to attend meetings if someone knows them. The holes in these amateur approaches should be obvious. Everyone in capitalist societies learns how to put on a front. That's requirement one in these backward systems. So, all these superficial approaches have done what for us? Instead, the focus should be on forming a disciplined cadre of organizers through consistent and mass political education. If people are dedicated and committed to principles they will stay the course of the work and they will prevent people from derailing that work. When you have that level of commitment from your soldiers, you needn't worry about "who is the police" because the masses of people in your organization will be your protection against sabotage. They will not allow it. Political education is the key to making the work mass in character and it eliminates the isolation that is eminent with "security culture." The best thing you can do to help our enemies is isolate people. By doing so, you make conditions ripe for sabotage. And, by broadcasting who you wish to isolate you give our enemies the blueprint necessary for them to figure out how to make that isolation blow up in our faces. Give me a scenario where problems within organizations have grown and I bet I can show you where the police have been pulling their puppet strings against you. That's why the moment your organization is on the verge of a breakthrough in the work, that's when the bottom always falls out. And you thought it was a coincidence?



http://www.abetterworld.me/blog/fred-hampton-cointelpro-how-activists-still-dont-get-it

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