#1801

cars posted:




“Rhodes” in the story below is Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the Oath Keepers and one of the guys entrapped by an FBI informant in a clown-shoes plot to carry firearms across the Potomac from Virginia before the January 6th Capitol riot, among other charges he now faces.

“[T]he second column” below refers to the second group of rioters that entered the Capitol that day through a breached door, turning the riot into what is currently being prosecuted as an insurrection.

now listen to my song:





Clown balloon dot jpeg.


#1802
#1803
slapfight is heating up between FBI and their former most-favored pot-busting plant/informant, who suddenly went from long-time FBI snitch-employee to the leadership of the country's biggest neo-Nazi cop-support squad a few years ago, and suddenly posted on social media right before January 6th about a property crime he did, and suddenly got catch-and-release by the FBI because, according to them, they knew ahead of time there was going to be extremist violence on January 6th in Washington(??) but they decided not to do anything about it(???) or keep snitchy in custody under the sweeping powers granted them after 9/11 to protect Washington from extremist violence(????), and suddenly he sat out the entire day "a hundred miles away" in a hotel room, and suddenly got burned by the FBI afterwards, and suddenly revealed to the court that he'd worked for the FBI on multiple sting operations over the previous decade, and suddenly,




#1804
The Western far right's gullibility & stupidity continues to stun me. It shouldn't surprise me at all, their nervous, crowd-sourced contempt for rational thought being what it is, but it does, over and over. They are just UNBELIEVABLY dim, UNBELIEVABLE chumps. They just have no clue where their orders come from, who is directing the rank-and-file, as well-trained follower-types, to say what they say or do what they do.

Bereft of any knowledge about their own fantasy world, let alone the real one, they invented an entirely new and superfluous term for cop, "glowie", because they didn't understand that their groups' efforts were DIRECTED by federal agents / top national cop agencies, most of the time under the leadership of Democrats or Labour or whichever pig-trough-slopping bourgeois party the far-right rank-and-file think is the "leftist" enemy.

When the FBI "lost" all its files from its supposed efforts "against" Stormfront as it infiltrated the organization, the moment that some off-message inquirer asked after them.... I don't think a SINGLE ONE of the far right were even able to recognize what that meant. I guess they probably weren't allowed to, by their peers or by their sponsors. But I mean... WOW.......

And every single time that it turns out the far right's leaders were LITERAL tools of the national government, when they get burned by the feds who controlled them like the frayed sock puppets they are, when they happily reveal ALL of that to the courts in a desperate Game Theory attempt to beat their fellows to a plea deal... the petit-bourgeois fascist squirt army always had no idea that leader after leader of theirs, all the people directing their efforts, are feds with a long career under the security state. They can't begin to fathom what it means.

And it just, keeps, happening. lol
#1805
yesterday i read a paper called 'the controllers: a new hypothesis of alien abductions' by martin cannon, who was a guy involved in ufo research back in the 80s and 90s. basically in this paper he puts forward the hypothesis that alien abductions aren't extraterrestrial at all - rather, they're the result of mkultra type mind control experiments carried out by the cia/military/government, with the alien thing promoted as a cover story(both by intelligence assets in the ufo community and by deliberate attempts to mislead the victims into thinking it's aliens during the abduction events themselves):

martin cannon posted:

As a result of this research, I have come to the following conclusions:

-1. Although misleading (and occasionally perjured) testimony before Congress indicated
that the CIA’s “brainwashing” efforts met with little success,7 striking advances
were, in fact, made in this field. As CIA veteran Miles Copeland once admitted
to a reporter, “The congressional subcommittee which went into this sort of
thing got only the barest glimpse.”

-2. Clandestine research into thought manipulation has not stopped, despite CIA protestations
that it no longer sponsors such studies. Victor Marchetti, 14-year veteran
of the CIA and author of the renown expose, The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence,
confirmed in a 1977 interview that the mind-control research continues, and that
CIA claims to the contrary are a “cover story.”
-3. The Central Intelligence Agency was not the only government agency involved in
this research. Indeed, many branches of our government took part in these studies—
including NASA, the Atomic Energy Commission, as well as all branches of
the Defense Department.

To these conclusions I would append the following—not as firmly-established
historical fact, but as a working hypothesis and grounds for investigation:

-4. The “UFO abduction” phenomenon might be a continuation of clandestine mindcontrol
operations.


i found it quite a compelling idea, cannon highlights a lot of very interesting similarities between abduction accounts and what is known of mkultra experimentation, as well as things like geographic connections to known mkultra facilities and so on. i am a little skeptical of some of the claimed technological advances that he implies are real though - for example, some abductees seem to develop multiple personality disorder or something like it, and he think that this shows that they've been mind controlled because there was mkultra research into seeing if multiple personalities could be artificially created. i'm not sure i buy the idea that the cia can actually create new personalities on command even though they wanted to do that, but i think a lot of the connections he does turn up are interesting in any case. there's also quite an indepth bibliography of sources on mkultra and related topics that looks useful.
there is one particularly strange thing about this guy and his work - when i found this paper, which is from 1992, i was actually looking for his much longer book(300 odd pages vs the paper's 57) of nearly the same title 'the controllers: mind control and its role in the "alien" abduction phenomenon', which came out later, in 1996. this book seems to be impossible to find now, and most references to it online are actually to the shorter paper, not the book. i found an amazon review which claims that shortly after the book was published cannon repudiated his ideas completely, left the ufo community, and tried to scrub all references from the book from the internet. the same review also says that the publisher disputes that the book was ever actually published at all(?). whether this means that cannon really was on to something and he was intimidated into recanting his ideas i don't know.

#1806
big fan of the numbering scheme there, using negative numbers so as to demonstrate just how deep the rabbit hole goes
#1807
i think it’s unlikely the CIA or any similar U.S. agency initially created the alien-abduction phenomenon, but it’s pretty much guaranteed that multiple U.S. agencies have exploited it and fostered it over the years for their own purposes, just as they’ve demonstrably done with UFO sightings, so much so that as it exists today, as a phenomenon disproportionately centered on the United States, it’s de facto a creation of theirs. So much so that my first statement in this post is probably unprovable in the strict sense.
#1808

zhaoyao posted:

big fan of the numbering scheme there, using negative numbers so as to demonstrate just how deep the rabbit hole goes


ah that's actually my formatting on the post lol, the dashes aren't there in the original book

#1809

lo posted:

the dashes aren't there in the original book


or perhaps they were always there and you've been neurone fucked by the mk-ultra boyz.

#1810

tears posted:

lo posted:


the dashes aren't there in the original book


or perhaps they were always there and you've been neurone fucked by the mk-ultra boyz.


curse the forbidden mkultra subproject to add dashes into my formatting!!

#1811
that's a repressed personality yelling & rattling the bars of its cage if i ever seent it
#1812
The incompetence of the non-state far right actors is what happens when the government molly coddles right wing extremists.
#1813

cars posted:

The Western far right's gullibility & stupidity continues to stun me. It shouldn't surprise me at all, their nervous, crowd-sourced contempt for rational thought being what it is, but it does, over and over. They are just UNBELIEVABLY dim, UNBELIEVABLE chumps. They just have no clue where their orders come from, who is directing the rank-and-file, as well-trained follower-types, to say what they say or do what they do.

Bereft of any knowledge about their own fantasy world, let alone the real one, they invented an entirely new and superfluous term for cop, "glowie", because they didn't understand that their groups' efforts were DIRECTED by federal agents / top national cop agencies, most of the time under the leadership of Democrats or Labour or whichever pig-trough-slopping bourgeois party the far-right rank-and-file think is the "leftist" enemy.

When the FBI "lost" all its files from its supposed efforts "against" Stormfront as it infiltrated the organization, the moment that some off-message inquirer asked after them.... I don't think a SINGLE ONE of the far right were even able to recognize what that meant. I guess they probably weren't allowed to, by their peers or by their sponsors. But I mean... WOW.......

And every single time that it turns out the far right's leaders were LITERAL tools of the national government, when they get burned by the feds who controlled them like the frayed sock puppets they are, when they happily reveal ALL of that to the courts in a desperate Game Theory attempt to beat their fellows to a plea deal... the petit-bourgeois fascist squirt army always had no idea that leader after leader of theirs, all the people directing their efforts, are feds with a long career under the security state. They can't begin to fathom what it means.

And it just, keeps, happening. lol



Nice timing



#1814
lol, again
#1815
Operation Galoot-io
#1816
call me an idiot but what's the purpose of directing a bunch of white nationalist chuds right into the hands of the local cops?
#1817
Uncle Brandon's FIBBI is taking highly visible action against right wing extremism so you should elect him again, idiot
#1818
i don't scrupulously follow the CIA Alien Abduction (CIA3) narratives; is the thing about them alien-abducting Brazilian farmers in the 70s old news?

#1819
the teacher shortage in STEM subjects in state schools is deliberate