kinch posted:swampman posted:if you read all 18 or so chapters mirrored on this site, there are another six or seven in his book which is on libgen lol. his favorite band of the era seems to be love, so i trust him completely.
He was one of the only 'conspiracy theorists' whose politics weren't either lame (like Dave Emory) or fucking dumb/protocolsian. There were two articles on his website where he lays out the facts that Stalin Did Nothing Wrong, that the Soviet Union was actually good and that Stalin's death was an assassination somehow linked to the CIA overthrow of Mossadegh (both occurred within a few months of each other). He also had a funny three-part series where he speculated about the circumstances which may have impelled Dick Cheney to shoot Harry Whittington in the face with a shotgun. spoiler: It WAS an accident, but they weren't really hunting quail that day. I'd post links but it looks like his website vanished from the internet 
Rest in peace, Dave. I doubt any book can scare the shit out of me the way Programmed to Kill did.
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/newsletter-78/
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/newsletter-79/
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/newsletter-80/
WildStalins posted:Hell yeah, thanks for posting that. Here's a series of articles about Dick Cheney shooting Harry Whittington in the face with a shotgun:
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/newsletter-78/
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/newsletter-79/
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/newsletter-80/
the pay off from this is the most perfect and beautiful thing
"Cheney and Scalia spent a weekend duck hunting on a secluded ranch, acompanied by scalias daughter"
The shotgun sprayed upward of 200 birdshot pellets at Whittington, causing scores of wounds. His facial lacerations were the most dramatically bloody, but the injuries to his neck and chest were the most serious. Four days after being hit, the birdshot near his heart prompted it to beat erratically, forcing him back into the intensive care unit. Doctors said Whittington suffered a mild heart attack; he thinks it was something less, a heart "event."
Still, the injuries were more dire than previously disclosed. Whittington suffered a collapsed lung. He underwent invasive exploratory surgery, as doctors probed his vital organs for signs of damage. The load from Cheney's gun came close to, but didn't damage, the carotid artery in his neck.
marimite posted:What do y'all think of his moon landing stuff? Read up to part vii, and it seems so thorough and convincing that either he's right or making fabrications too sophisticated to not be intentional.
cant say ive read all of it yet but hes saying some dumb things "Who knew, by the way, that the European Space Agency had the technology and the budget to send a spacecraft off to orbit the Moon? Who knew that the Europeans even had a space agency? I wonder, given that they obviously have the technology to send spacecraft to the Moon, why they haven’t sent any manned missions there? I would think that it should be fairly easy to send some guys to at least orbit the Moon … right? I mean, all they have to do is add a couple seats to the spacecraft design that they already have and they should be ready to go."
like yeah, i did know that europe has a space agency, thats not really a secret, and sending manned craft is clearly more difficult than he suggests, and theres not much need for them to do it. a lot of it looks like him being loudly incredulous that people did tough things with fairly primitive technology which isnt really an argument in itself.
marimite posted:What do y'all think of his moon landing stuff? Read up to part vii, and it seems so thorough and convincing that either he's right or making fabrications too sophisticated to not be intentional.
Hell it has me convinced
lo posted:marimite posted:
What do y'all think of his moon landing stuff? Read up to part vii, and it seems so thorough and convincing that either he's right or making fabrications too sophisticated to not be intentional.
cant say ive read all of it yet but hes saying some dumb things "Who knew, by the way, that the European Space Agency had the technology and the budget to send a spacecraft off to orbit the Moon? Who knew that the Europeans even had a space agency? I wonder, given that they obviously have the technology to send spacecraft to the Moon, why they haven’t sent any manned missions there? I would think that it should be fairly easy to send some guys to at least orbit the Moon … right? I mean, all they have to do is add a couple seats to the spacecraft design that they already have and they should be ready to go."
like yeah, i did know that europe has a space agency, thats not really a secret, and sending manned craft is clearly more difficult than he suggests, and theres not much need for them to do it. a lot of it looks like him being loudly incredulous that people did tough things with fairly primitive technology which isnt really an argument in itself.
I think he was being sarcastic when he suggested that... Something about the official narrative and how they launched off 8 untested rockets within weeks of each other with no major issues yet can't even manage to do one successful launch today. Dunno though
fape posted:Part 7 of the post details the glory of the Soviet space program which was 10 times more successful and real than the U.S. one
this is true and also the U.S. space program put people on the moon.
fape posted:Man it would be really disappointing if all of the overwhelming amount of evidence that guy presented in his article about the components of the apollo missions being (reportedly from the sources themselves) lazily designed, unfinished, untested, rushed pieces of junk wrapped in aluminum foil, and all the computers in the command center being not actually computers but screens with slides displayed on them, and the main programmers for the onboard directional systems saying "Yeah, they just told me to write whateva!" , all amounted to nothing, because Cars wants to present himself as an intellectually agreeable person
sure, whatever that means
toyotathon posted:the purpose of sites like this shouldn't be to play science devil's advocate, it should be to teach good reasoning skills to spot the next fairy tale. i've read all of it and there isn't 1 experiment with real materials, except light criticism of mythbusters, the pop cultural phenomenon named after the a priori goal of their experiments demonstrations science adventures
toyotathon posted:moon landing seems like one of those things where we'll have to wait and see if another country or whoever lands and confirms there's a bunch of nasa equipment left where nasa said it's left
the purpose of sites like this shouldn't be to play science devil's advocate, it should be to teach good reasoning skills to spot the next fairy tale. i've read all of it and there isn't 1 experiment with real materials, except light criticism of mythbusters, the pop cultural phenomenon named after the a priori goal of their experiments demonstrations science adventures
they installed reflectors on a specific part of the moon so you could detect reflected light from the earth and one of my physics teachers said he did this and measured the distance personally at university so, unless he was part of the conspiracy, seems like the moon landing happened.
otoh, now that I'm not a child, it occurs to me that the moon is pretty high albedo and you should be able to do laser distance measuring even if no one installed reflectors...
levoydpage posted:
i started reading the text before looking at the image and the whole time i just assumed it was a picture of squidward
kinch posted:whats this moon article youre talking about?
http://www.whale.to/c/Dave%20McGowan%20-%20Wagging%20The%20Moon%20Doggie.pdf
toyotathon posted:the purpose of sites like this shouldn't be to play science devil's advocate, it should be to teach good reasoning skills to spot the next fairy tale.
the purpose of this site is to contain the spread of fail aids but it didn't work and now you have Fail AIDS.
cars posted:one of the main reasons this is known to be true is because the USSR had the means the opportunity and every reason to expose the moon landings as fake if they were but they didn't because they knew they were real because they weren't idiots. contrast the U.S. space program and U.S. academia which refused to believe there was lightning on Venus for decades for the sole reason that the USSR offered evidence for it.
yeah, the soviets(as well as some independent astronomers who I guess would have had to be in on the conspiracy?) had the ability to track the apollo missions and pick up transmissions from them, and they did.