The crisis of physics is not therefore the result of any contradictions in relativity physics, or its supersession of Newtonian physics. Relativity physics is all of a piece with Newtonian physics. At every stage contradictions already latent have become open as a result of extended observation of Nature; and at every emergence they have been resolved by means of a new theory which lifted physics into a higher plane. The contradiction between the Galilean laws of motion and the Keplerian laws of planetary motion, led to the Newtonian equation of mass to inertia and the formulation of the Universal law of gravity.

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The solution of the contradictions within mechanics by the relativity theory, and the solution of the contradictions with 'wave' physics by the electro-magnetic equations of Clerk-Maxwell, and the solution of the contradictions within atomic physics by the quantum theory, has only led to greater contradictions between these three domains of physics. Conditions call imperatively for a synthesis of the laws governing the three domains, but each new discovery makes this less likely, and the conflict more acute. It is this which has given rise to the present crisis in physics and made it wholly different from previous crises, which merely paved the way for an immediate synthesis. Here however far more drastic revision is necessary. It is significant that in discussing the consequences of these contradictions, scientists find themselves forced to discuss concepts such as free-will and the nature of knowledge which had hitherto been excluded from science as philosophical questions. The scientist in other words is compelled to overhaul his philosophy, which hitherto had been an uncritical and inevitable way of looking at things rather than a conscience metaphysics. It was none the less metaphysics. Indeed, because of this unconsciousness, it was all the more metaphysical.

this is my shit right here (as long as doesn't fall into the zizekesque embarrassingly bad explanations of quantum physics). ive always been fascinated by physicists' reaction (or lack of) to philosophical implications of new ideas in physics. there's certainly a large divide between the physicists that attempt to make larger sense out of wacky things like quantum physics and those that refuse to do so by maintaining a distance between their worldview and the actual physical world.

caudwell is gettting at this being an ideological thing, intimately tied to the contradiction between man as the idea and man as the machine, which is tied to other contradictions, etc. etc. im only like 1 chapter in but its cool so far

Hitler posted:

i'm reading The Crisis in Physics by christopher caudwell, which my roommate stole from the prison library apparently. it's about how the quantum vs. classical debate in the early 20th century was part of a larger ideological crisis. here's a thing,

The crisis of physics is not therefore the result of any contradictions in relativity physics, or its supersession of Newtonian physics. Relativity physics is all of a piece with Newtonian physics. At every stage contradictions already latent have become open as a result of extended observation of Nature; and at every emergence they have been resolved by means of a new theory which lifted physics into a higher plane. The contradiction between the Galilean laws of motion and the Keplerian laws of planetary motion, led to the Newtonian equation of mass to inertia and the formulation of the Universal law of gravity.

...

The solution of the contradictions within mechanics by the relativity theory, and the solution of the contradictions with 'wave' physics by the electro-magnetic equations of Clerk-Maxwell, and the solution of the contradictions within atomic physics by the quantum theory, has only led to greater contradictions between these three domains of physics. Conditions call imperatively for a synthesis of the laws governing the three domains, but each new discovery makes this less likely, and the conflict more acute. It is this which has given rise to the present crisis in physics and made it wholly different from previous crises, which merely paved the way for an immediate synthesis. Here however far more drastic revision is necessary. It is significant that in discussing the consequences of these contradictions, scientists find themselves forced to discuss concepts such as free-will and the nature of knowledge which had hitherto been excluded from science as philosophical questions. The scientist in other words is compelled to overhaul his philosophy, which hitherto had been an uncritical and inevitable way of looking at things rather than a conscience metaphysics. It was none the less metaphysics. Indeed, because of this unconsciousness, it was all the more metaphysical.

this is my shit right here (as long as doesn't fall into the zizekesque embarrassingly bad explanations of quantum physics). ive always been fascinated by physicists' reaction (or lack of) to philosophical implications of new ideas in physics. there's certainly a large divide between the physicists that attempt to make larger sense out of wacky things like quantum physics and those that refuse to do so by maintaining a distance between their worldview and the actual physical world.

caudwell is gettting at this being an ideological thing, intimately tied to the contradiction between man as the idea and man as the machine, which is tied to other contradictions, etc. etc. im only like 1 chapter in but its cool so far

i dont really think scientists were forced by relativity or QM to talk about free will and epistemology (neither have anything important to say about the material basis of free will for instance) but rather that happened as part of the continuous infiltration of the model and ethos of physics into all spheres of intellectual life

shennong posted:

Hitler posted:

i'm reading The Crisis in Physics by christopher caudwell, which my roommate stole from the prison library apparently. it's about how the quantum vs. classical debate in the early 20th century was part of a larger ideological crisis. here's a thing,

The crisis of physics is not therefore the result of any contradictions in relativity physics, or its supersession of Newtonian physics. Relativity physics is all of a piece with Newtonian physics. At every stage contradictions already latent have become open as a result of extended observation of Nature; and at every emergence they have been resolved by means of a new theory which lifted physics into a higher plane. The contradiction between the Galilean laws of motion and the Keplerian laws of planetary motion, led to the Newtonian equation of mass to inertia and the formulation of the Universal law of gravity.

...

The solution of the contradictions within mechanics by the relativity theory, and the solution of the contradictions with 'wave' physics by the electro-magnetic equations of Clerk-Maxwell, and the solution of the contradictions within atomic physics by the quantum theory, has only led to greater contradictions between these three domains of physics. Conditions call imperatively for a synthesis of the laws governing the three domains, but each new discovery makes this less likely, and the conflict more acute. It is this which has given rise to the present crisis in physics and made it wholly different from previous crises, which merely paved the way for an immediate synthesis. Here however far more drastic revision is necessary. It is significant that in discussing the consequences of these contradictions, scientists find themselves forced to discuss concepts such as free-will and the nature of knowledge which had hitherto been excluded from science as philosophical questions. The scientist in other words is compelled to overhaul his philosophy, which hitherto had been an uncritical and inevitable way of looking at things rather than a conscience metaphysics. It was none the less metaphysics. Indeed, because of this unconsciousness, it was all the more metaphysical.

this is my shit right here (as long as doesn't fall into the zizekesque embarrassingly bad explanations of quantum physics). ive always been fascinated by physicists' reaction (or lack of) to philosophical implications of new ideas in physics. there's certainly a large divide between the physicists that attempt to make larger sense out of wacky things like quantum physics and those that refuse to do so by maintaining a distance between their worldview and the actual physical world.

caudwell is gettting at this being an ideological thing, intimately tied to the contradiction between man as the idea and man as the machine, which is tied to other contradictions, etc. etc. im only like 1 chapter in but its cool so far

i dont really think scientists were forced by relativity or QM to talk about free will and epistemology (neither have anything important to say about the material basis of free will for instance) but rather that happened as part of the continuous infiltration of the model and ethos of physics into all spheres of intellectual life

or you could negate the negation and conclude that it was ~the silent weaving of spirit~

wasted posted:

shennong posted:

Hitler posted:

i'm reading The Crisis in Physics by christopher caudwell, which my roommate stole from the prison library apparently. it's about how the quantum vs. classical debate in the early 20th century was part of a larger ideological crisis. here's a thing,

The crisis of physics is not therefore the result of any contradictions in relativity physics, or its supersession of Newtonian physics. Relativity physics is all of a piece with Newtonian physics. At every stage contradictions already latent have become open as a result of extended observation of Nature; and at every emergence they have been resolved by means of a new theory which lifted physics into a higher plane. The contradiction between the Galilean laws of motion and the Keplerian laws of planetary motion, led to the Newtonian equation of mass to inertia and the formulation of the Universal law of gravity.

...

The solution of the contradictions within mechanics by the relativity theory, and the solution of the contradictions with 'wave' physics by the electro-magnetic equations of Clerk-Maxwell, and the solution of the contradictions within atomic physics by the quantum theory, has only led to greater contradictions between these three domains of physics. Conditions call imperatively for a synthesis of the laws governing the three domains, but each new discovery makes this less likely, and the conflict more acute. It is this which has given rise to the present crisis in physics and made it wholly different from previous crises, which merely paved the way for an immediate synthesis. Here however far more drastic revision is necessary. It is significant that in discussing the consequences of these contradictions, scientists find themselves forced to discuss concepts such as free-will and the nature of knowledge which had hitherto been excluded from science as philosophical questions. The scientist in other words is compelled to overhaul his philosophy, which hitherto had been an uncritical and inevitable way of looking at things rather than a conscience metaphysics. It was none the less metaphysics. Indeed, because of this unconsciousness, it was all the more metaphysical.

this is my shit right here (as long as doesn't fall into the zizekesque embarrassingly bad explanations of quantum physics). ive always been fascinated by physicists' reaction (or lack of) to philosophical implications of new ideas in physics. there's certainly a large divide between the physicists that attempt to make larger sense out of wacky things like quantum physics and those that refuse to do so by maintaining a distance between their worldview and the actual physical world.

caudwell is gettting at this being an ideological thing, intimately tied to the contradiction between man as the idea and man as the machine, which is tied to other contradictions, etc. etc. im only like 1 chapter in but its cool so far

i dont really think scientists were forced by relativity or QM to talk about free will and epistemology (neither have anything important to say about the material basis of free will for instance) but rather that happened as part of the continuous infiltration of the model and ethos of physics into all spheres of intellectual life

or you could negate the negation and conclude that it was ~the silent weaving of spirit~

ill negat u.. nice av.. NOT

shennong posted:

wasted posted:

shennong posted:

Hitler posted:

i'm reading The Crisis in Physics by christopher caudwell, which my roommate stole from the prison library apparently. it's about how the quantum vs. classical debate in the early 20th century was part of a larger ideological crisis. here's a thing,

The crisis of physics is not therefore the result of any contradictions in relativity physics, or its supersession of Newtonian physics. Relativity physics is all of a piece with Newtonian physics. At every stage contradictions already latent have become open as a result of extended observation of Nature; and at every emergence they have been resolved by means of a new theory which lifted physics into a higher plane. The contradiction between the Galilean laws of motion and the Keplerian laws of planetary motion, led to the Newtonian equation of mass to inertia and the formulation of the Universal law of gravity.

...

The solution of the contradictions within mechanics by the relativity theory, and the solution of the contradictions with 'wave' physics by the electro-magnetic equations of Clerk-Maxwell, and the solution of the contradictions within atomic physics by the quantum theory, has only led to greater contradictions between these three domains of physics. Conditions call imperatively for a synthesis of the laws governing the three domains, but each new discovery makes this less likely, and the conflict more acute. It is this which has given rise to the present crisis in physics and made it wholly different from previous crises, which merely paved the way for an immediate synthesis. Here however far more drastic revision is necessary. It is significant that in discussing the consequences of these contradictions, scientists find themselves forced to discuss concepts such as free-will and the nature of knowledge which had hitherto been excluded from science as philosophical questions. The scientist in other words is compelled to overhaul his philosophy, which hitherto had been an uncritical and inevitable way of looking at things rather than a conscience metaphysics. It was none the less metaphysics. Indeed, because of this unconsciousness, it was all the more metaphysical.

this is my shit right here (as long as doesn't fall into the zizekesque embarrassingly bad explanations of quantum physics). ive always been fascinated by physicists' reaction (or lack of) to philosophical implications of new ideas in physics. there's certainly a large divide between the physicists that attempt to make larger sense out of wacky things like quantum physics and those that refuse to do so by maintaining a distance between their worldview and the actual physical world.

caudwell is gettting at this being an ideological thing, intimately tied to the contradiction between man as the idea and man as the machine, which is tied to other contradictions, etc. etc. im only like 1 chapter in but its cool so far

i dont really think scientists were forced by relativity or QM to talk about free will and epistemology (neither have anything important to say about the material basis of free will for instance) but rather that happened as part of the continuous infiltration of the model and ethos of physics into all spheres of intellectual life

or you could negate the negation and conclude that it was ~the silent weaving of spirit~

ill negat u.. nice av.. NOT

ahaha its a randomized swastika

babyfinland posted:

im taking a course on foucault, agamben, fanon, butler and deleuze+guatari this quarter

that's a big course...a lot on your plate so to speak

babyfinland posted:

its called intro to social theory

also counts as having taken outro to social life

HenryKrinkle posted:

read more books about haiti

http://www.amazon.com/Hegel-Haiti-Universal-History-Illuminations/dp/082295978X