#241

karphead posted:




How'd you get this photo from Netanyahu's forthcoming UN presentation?

#242

kinch posted:

unconfirmed video. could always be MEK in tehran with the MANPAD


cinematography by https://medium.com/@listentous

#243
long MoA comment on the potential shoot-down by a military aviation guy who's been pretty reliable in the past. sounds good to me

Spoiler!

#244

kinch posted:


Ima be real with you chief - Iran probably accidently shot it down while on high alert. Besides the fact that Iran has plenty of other surface-to-air short and medium ranged missiles and launchers that are stand-alone, the circumstanial evidence and the target make it unconvincing to suggest that it was anything other than A)1 a very spectacular and coincidentally-time technical failure, or B) an accidental attack by a country on high alert, as it was in the midst of retaliating against an unpredictable and untrustworthy imperialist regime. This is the problem with the brinksmanship game states play with each other, the tensions involved lead up to fuck ups of huge proportions

#245
it's possible, I guess we have to wait for the results of the investigation. iran has invited every interested party and even the NTSB as a show of good faith, so they're clearly not engaged in a cover-up. today they're reiterating that they're certain no missile hit the aircraft. I can't see why they'd do that if its going to be refuted next week. supposedly the ukrainian press is reporting that their investigators have reached the same conclusion, though idk if that's true. then there's the fact that for the first ~36 hours the pentagon reported that there was no evidence of a shootdown, but reconsidered once bellingcat was on the case. I suppose the reason iran called the american allegations 'psychological warfare' is that they work to neutralize the impact of the missile strikes by drawing attention to the airliner instead. seems to be working.
#246
Suprise, suprise, the US rejects the Iraqi demand for a troop withdrawal.
https://apnews.com/182bae76452d7565b0a3d840ff0369cb?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter


Now to see if there will any consequences,
#247
Hell no we won't go.
#248
mediator and queer icon sultan qaboos has died. reports on twitter of the omani military being on high alert, worried about a coup. not sure if u$ / iran would consider it more advantageous to try to stage one or leave oman alone as a neutral ground.
#249
iran admitted to shooting down the plane
#250

Fayafi posted:

kinch posted:

Ima be real with you chief - Iran probably accidently shot it down while on high alert. Besides the fact that Iran has plenty of other surface-to-air short and medium ranged missiles and launchers that are stand-alone, the circumstanial evidence and the target make it unconvincing to suggest that it was anything other than A)1 a very spectacular and coincidentally-time technical failure, or B) an accidental attack by a country on high alert, as it was in the midst of retaliating against an unpredictable and untrustworthy imperialist regime. This is the problem with the brinksmanship game states play with each other, the tensions involved lead up to fuck ups of huge proportions



well you called it. of course at the end of the day the u.s. initiated the circumstances that made this accident possible

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/world/middleeast/missile-iran-plane-crash.html

Iran announced early Saturday that it had accidentally shot down a Ukrainian passenger jet, blaming it on human error because of what it called the plane’s sharp, unexpected turn toward a sensitive military base, according to a statement issued by the country’s military.

#251
Glad they owned up to it, then. Staying silent as more evidence inevitably emerged would have just fuelled the warmongers' accusation that it wasn't an accident
#252
Nah theyre many people going with the "bet they did it on purpose" line, even though it makes absolutely no fucking sense l
#253
Sure but I think (hope) those voices are going to remain marginal now.
#254
rip. :(
#255
To reiterate: Death to amerikkka
#256

“Instagram and its parent company Facebook are removing posts that voice support for slain Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani to comply with US sanctions, a Facebook spokesperson said in a statement to CNN Business Friday.

The Iranian government has called for nationwide legal action against Instagram in protest, even creating a portal on a government website for the app's users to submit examples of posts the company removed, Iranian state media reported.”
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/10/tech/instagram-iran-soleimani-posts/index.html
#257
More strong arming of Iraq by the agency respecting, sovereignty loving American hegemon.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-warns-iraq-it-risks-losing-access-to-key-bank-account-if-troops-told-to-leave-11578759629
#258

RedMaistre posted:

“Instagram and its parent company Facebook are removing posts that voice support for slain Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani to comply with US sanctions, a Facebook spokesperson said in a statement to CNN Business Friday.

The Iranian government has called for nationwide legal action against Instagram in protest, even creating a portal on a government website for the app's users to submit examples of posts the company removed, Iranian state media reported.”
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/10/tech/instagram-iran-soleimani-posts/index.html



paypal is preventing folks from donating to the grayzone if they write a message that includes the word iran

#259
bit of a long shot but it's possible that CIA/SIS together with our fascist puppets in ukraine arranged for either the aircraft itself or something separate to use targeted radar deception to make it appear indistinguishable from a cruise missile... some of the reported hostile aerial activity around the same time might have even been actual cruise missiles and absolutely certainly included numerous aerial launching platforms for such missiles. amerikkka's fault eiother way obviously, death to amerikkka e: not as much of a long shot as i thought really after a little bit of research. U.S. def ahd the conditions and ELINT to pull it off

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#260
The US has been strengthening its EW capabilities in recent years with lots of development and acquisitions and plenty of deployment in the region such as extensive use of te MQ-1 in the region. a lot of tech seems extremely compact and advanced, with one unit running on a measly 50W with an extremely compact form factor. some systems are even specifically designed to be disposable/ejectable standalone units, others are designed to operate from outside te target radar's and SAMs' range.

https://falcon.blu3wolf.com/Docs/Electronic-Warfare-Fundamentals.pdf
https://www.defensenews.com/home/2015/08/02/electronic-warfare-what-us-army-can-learn-from-ukraine/
https://www.mrcy.com/drfm-technology/
https://www.hensoldt.net/fileadmin/hensoldt/Solutions/Air/Self_Protection/0504_17_DFRM_datasheet_E_intranet.pdf
https://www.c4isrnet.com/electronic-warfare/2019/05/15/can-new-spoofing-tech-give-us-aircraft-a-shroud-in-the-clouds/
https://www.militaryaerospace.com/computers/article/16726118/navy-continues-buying-radarspoofing-electronic-warfare-ew-equipment-from-mercury-systems

e: also disguising or hiding the presence of a target that is actually there which most of this stuff is designed around is much more difficult than confusing radar about a target for which no efforts at concealment are being made

e2L heard these guys' stock is doin great! https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/ngj

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#262
The US obviously covers up its troop deaths by reporting them as helicopter accidents etc. but if claimed they were killed in afghanistan by an IED, they were probably killed in afghanistan. the iranian government gave a warning to the iraqi government that they were going to do the strike
#263

marlax78 posted:

The US obviously covers up its troop deaths by reporting them as helicopter accidents etc. but if claimed they were killed in afghanistan by an IED, they were probably killed in afghanistan. the iranian government gave a warning to the iraqi government that they were going to do the strike



Taliban actually claimed them so yea.

#264
John Bolton just casually walking around Qatar
#265
Any people from Qatar browsing the Rhizz.... remember that Mr. Bolton here is made of flesh and bone that can easily be torn and broken just like everyone else! :^)
#266
inshallah
#267
although that's too tempting a target to be real, it's got to be a bolton look-a-like. called it.

#268
lmao people are brownmosing his pinky ring and google mapping the cross streets
#269
I wonder how much intelligence agencies dedicate to tracking the locations of movers and shakers on a continual basis. Like, I'm sure people are watching e.g. the Kushners. but like maybe there is a list of hundreds or thousands of names in a bunker in Tel Aviv that's just filling in blanks on personalized timelines
#270
cops etc are maybe the most pathetic rejects, always showing up at kids' parties they weren't invited to, and nobody wants them there, they're worse than the smelliest nerd, everybody scatters when they show up. they want to join our lively and purposeful political instruments but have famously ignorant, bad politics, and can't be trusted. everybody knows they're the worst recruits. we read People magazine, but these perverts need even more celebrity knowledge. they know that every time they do their "job", they've made that day somebody's worst of the week. if not for the 20% of broadcast TV dedicated to fluffing up the cop ego, these poor, shitty men would surely off themselves...
#271
the saddest thing is that more cops kill themselves than are killed on the job. we can change this.
#272

Zoe posted:

Any people from Qatar browsing the Rhizz.... remember that Mr. Bolton here is made of flesh and bone that can easily be torn and broken just like everyone else! :^)



Was genuinely thinking "damn, i just left there... missed my chance" lol

#273
obligatory hahaha fbi and rcmp im just memeing here pls chill bro i swear bro
#274

winebaby posted:


nice

#275
Seems the spat between the Iraqi state and the US has calmed down for now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/15/world/middleeast/us-military-iraq.html
#276
threatening to impose iran-style sanctions and seize $35 billion held in us banks unless the occupation continues is a big stick
#277
I'm putting a 300 million dollar bounty on bolton's mustache. Shave it and send me the clippings.
#278
how you going to make sure it's his moustache
#279
the real question is, how are you not going to make sure it’s his mustache
#280
accepting Bolton mustaches from folks who inquire about how the mustache's owner will be verified would probably do the trick