#121
Feb. 7: Members of Syrian moderate opposition to provide humanitarian services to Venezuela during Guaidó transition to power

Feb. 11: Maduro accused of "Assad-like" gas attacks
#122
Coming to Netflix this fall, Los cascos blancos: edición «surf's up»
#123

fape posted:

Feb. 7: Members of Syrian moderate opposition to provide humanitarian services to Venezuela during Guaidó transition to power

Feb. 11: Maduro accused of "Assad-like" gas attacks



rumours of this kind actually spread during the recent nicaraguan unrest

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nicaragua/comments/8okz1q/use_of_chemical_weapons_in_masaya/

#124
the coup's dead right?
#125
So brave of liberal amerika funnyman commentators to take the nuanced line that Maduro is an awful Stalinesque monster but that maybe military intervention is not a great idea. I miss Chinese news
#126
I should add that over the past decade or so the profile of Canada in mining projects in Latin America has grown a lot. I think it is second only to the US in terms of capital invested in the region and a massive amount overall. We also have an oil industry that's in a lot of pain because of low prices and a bunch of domestic inefficiencies and poor planning. I think those are the obvious reasons why Canada is pushing so hard for this, in addition to the liberal jihad against Russia here and the attempt by the Liberals to position themselves as being able to out-adult Trump on foreign policy. I don't know if they actually care about "regime change" in the sense of actually changing the leadership of Venezuela as much as the right-wingers involved, I think it is more oriented against any nationalist economic policy in the Americas. As I said, it will be interesting to see the flow of experts into Bolivia to try to unseat Evo.
#127
Canada's reformist party put out statements that were basically like "we are concerned about the concerns" but a few NDP MPs actually came out and denounced Canada's position in strong language. The government then focused on them as nutbars. Also notable was the Green Party dedicating about half of their statement to hoping the Pope would solve things.
#128

getfiscal posted:

Also notable was the Green Party dedicating about half of their statement to hoping the Pope would solve things.


It's always nice to see a party take the official rhizzone line.

#129

toyotathon posted:

the coup's dead right?



are we still talking about Venezuela or Boots Riley's associated musical act

#130
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-47066906

this has absolutely wrecked me for some reason:

Addressing security forces directly, he said: "I will hold you responsible for any intimidation of my baby, who is just 20 months old."





the UN do not seem up for this at the moment:

The United Nations has told Mr Guaidó that it is willing to increase humanitarian aid to the country but required the consent of Mr Maduro's government, a spokesman said.

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#131

you don't know what you are talking about #@! I am living with 0.5 $ in Venezuela per day for people just like you! ignorant people, that help Russian intelligence, not it's funny, USA are fighting for freedom without that wars People of USA and people of world we would be enslaved to the end of your lives, but you are a first world kid you don't know, you don't have an understanding or you are part of socialist elite or you are a sick boy that laugh about suffers from peoples.

now Venezuelan government is forced recruiting kids 12 yr torturing them, with use of brute force, with guerrilla brainwashing for killing every people they guerrilla government wants. 2.000.000 children force recruitment for april.

Know you I am talking about? enter in your Hose Killing adults and recruiting the childrens. but you are doing videos like this, not it's funny first world kid.

you wanna see the reality?
you wanna see the videos?

I am eternally gracefully with USA and Occidental world thanks for god that occidental world respond against the oriental, Arabian, communist world, to stop this madness, the brute force is the unique language that criminals, communist and left side respect and understood another language are responding for communist with ak47 shots.

the homicidal maniacs (communist) only understood the brute force power, they are killing every people that cross with them, the occidental world should respond equally.

now the understanding people are fighting with leaders what in the past don't exist and they are fighting against homicidal guerrilleros and sick peoples that they have 100, 200, 300 innocents killings for funny that's "socials leaders"; Bolsonaro, Trump and others are fighting for defend your first world live, your youtube, your food, your occidental stylish life (freedom), but you don't understand that videos like this are a direct attack against all of this I am talking about. in the past, the Left political side was unique thinks form in South America, the Russian brainwashing it's a monster (50yr of brainwashing), but now this is changing.




normal person who is obviously from Venezuela posting in youtube comment section

Bolsonaro, Trump and others are fighting for defend your first world live, your youtube, your food, your occidental stylish life (freedom)



this was my favourite part

#132
#133

toyotathon posted:

the coup's dead right?


well it didnt take in venezuela so now theyre just stealing all venezuelas money and giving it to juan guaido while basically saying the people/military must either revolt or starve.

#134

getfiscal posted:

I don't know if they actually care about "regime change" in the sense of actually changing the leadership of Venezuela as much as the right-wingers involved, I think it is more oriented against any nationalist economic policy in the Americas.


what exactly is the distinction supposed to be

#135

chickeon posted:

getfiscal posted:

I don't know if they actually care about "regime change" in the sense of actually changing the leadership of Venezuela as much as the right-wingers involved, I think it is more oriented against any nationalist economic policy in the Americas.

what exactly is the distinction supposed to be


Well I think the liberal types want capitulation on policy objectives and the more right-wingers are more committed to having someone in power who openly promotes far-right politics with all its cultural markers. The important difference being that liberal hawks are fine with just keeping the chaos rolling forward as they extract concessions and see what happens, while preferring the opposition cloak itself in social-democratic language, while the far-right sees this as an opportunity to go full Nazi. I guess you're right that like in Ukraine this distinction wouldn't matter much if they actually took power because the liberals and far-right would work closely together, but it's important insofar as there are contradictions in the position.

#136
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/02/eln-interview-colombian-marxist-guerrillas-will-fight-us-troops/

i'm more familiar with FARC like most gringos i suppose. still: nice.
#137

swampman posted:


On Wednesday night, the force roared into the Jose Felix Ribas neighborhood, part of Petare, to hunt for Guaido’s supporters. Shooting soon began, said a woman named Leida, who asked that her last name not be used to protect her family’s safety. Her children, aged 5 and 11, lay on the floor for cover and, at the sound of an explosion, the little boy asked her: “Is Maduro dead?"

#138
The NDP here said they now support Guaido but they just think it should have been handled better. Man politics sucks.
#139

getfiscal posted:

The NDP here said they now support Guaido but they just think it should have been handled better. Man politics sucks.



Maybe I was wrong about DSA being as bad as the NDP

#140
reading a bbc article today about the maduro government blocking routes into the country for humanitarian aid requested by guaido. guaido offered a few soundbites, and there wasn't much effort to explain how, even if this food and medicine makes it through the blockades, he intends to distribute it, given that the only entity with the infrastructure to facilitate such a large operation is presumably the venezuelan government.

it wasn't until the final few paragraphs they mentioned that, actually, guaido has established these vaguely described "aid groups" in neighbouring countries. they intend to collect - not intercept - USAID's delivery and stash all the food and medicine in countries that are conspicuously not venezuela.

the people most at risk from food and medicine shortages also happen to largely, stubbornly, support the maduro government.
#141
february 4th:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-04/france-u-k-recognize-guaido-as-europe-firms-venezuela-stance

The U.K., Germany and France led a host of European countries in recognizing Venezuelan National Assembly leader Juan Guaido as the country’s interim president on Monday, joining an international push led by the U.S. censuring Nicolas Maduro and calling for new elections.



february 6th:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/06/italys-deputy-pm-luigi-di-maio-meets-senior-gilets-jaunes-figure

Paris says deputy PM Luigi Di Maio’s actions are an unacceptable provocation



lmao

#142
Has anybody made the Luigi di Mario joke yet?
#143

hey posted:

Has anybody made the Luigi di Mario joke yet?


No, how does that one go?

#144
very carefully
#145
guaido has now said he will "authorise" a US invasion if the situation becomes dire enough. gee let's hope the impossible situation you've put the country in, where they either accept your US appointment as legit or starve to death in the streets, doesn't result in them making the wrong decision. this is so painfully stage managed and predictable, it feels like when you see an a-b-c movie written from those three act drama templates. only real people will actually die if this idiot gets his way.

i also love how the man we're told is an evil genocidal dictator, when confronted with guaido openly agitating for the overthrow of his regime, took the ruthless decision to write polite letters to the pope and the mexican government asking for mediation.
#146
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/latin-america/article225949200.html

Venezuelan authorities say a U.S.-owned air freight company delivered a crate of assault weapons earlier this week to the international airport in Valencia to be used in “terrorist actions” against the embattled government of Nicolás Maduro.

An air freight company, 21 Air LLC, based in Greensboro, N.C., operates the Boeing 767 aircraft that the Venezuelans allege was used in the arms transfer. The flight originated in Miami on Feb 3.

The Boeing 767 has made dozens of flights between Miami International Airport and destinations in Colombia and Venezuela since Jan. 11, a flight tracking service shows, often returning to Miami for only a few hours before flying again to South America.

A senior Venezuelan security official, Bolivarian National Guard Gen. Endes Palencia Ortiz, who is the nation’s vice minister of citizen security, said authorities found 19 assault weapons, 118 ammunition cartridges, and 90 military-grade radio antennas, among other items.

An Ottawa-based analyst of unusual ship and plane movements, Steffan Watkins, drew attention to the frequent flights of the 21 Air cargo plane in a series of tweets Thursday.

“All year, they were flying between Philadelphia and Miami and all over the place, but all continental U.S.,” Watkins said in a telephone interview. “Then all of a sudden in January, things changed.”

That’s when the cargo plane began flying to destinations in Colombia and Venezuela on a daily basis, and sometimes multiple times a day, Watkins said. The plane has made close to 40 round-trip flights from Miami International Airport to Caracas and Valencia in Venezuela, and Bogota and Medellin in Colombia since Jan. 11.

The most recent tracking of the aircraft showed it arrived from Medellin into Miami airport after midnight Thursday.


#147
Maduro threatens to murder US troops just for invading
#148
amnesty statement

https://www.amnesty.org/download/Documents/AMR5398092019ENGLISH.pdf
#149
"amnesty international would like to dust america's balls with the softest feather duster ever to remind them that maybe sanctions on government income that pays for food will starve more people"

reminder:

"If the above are accepted or cannot be successfully countered, it follows that every possible means should be undertaken promptly to weaken the economic life of Cuba. If such a policy is adopted, it should be the result of a positive decision which would call forth a line of action which, while as adroit and inconspicuous as possible, makes the greatest inroads in denying money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government."

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v06/d499
#150
so bbc published an interview transcript where Maduro destroys western propaganda

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47211509
#151
"Guerin

A very last question: can you tell me how much a kilo of cheese costs in Venezuela?"

Maduro eloquently and passionately calls this BBC presenter a liar and a dupe over and over and she doesnt even blink. Asks a about fucking cheese prices. Mainstream journalism is completely bankrupt and I'm amazed more people don't see it.

I'm also surprised they even published a full interview with him. I guess the BBC still thinks this interview makes Maduro look like a maniacal dictator, which was their goal, and makes the BBC look 'fair' for giving him 20 minutes.
#152
"what kind of cheese and where are you buying it" is the only way a reasonable person could respond to that question, and that's more or less what he said. no follow-up specifics were posed because she doesn't actually know/care about it, and no gestures toward survey averages because that's probably too academic an angle to use when the goal is to portray him as an elite tyrant disconnected from the people, rather than a bumbling oaf who doesn't know a statistic

sorta poetic that the BBC comes out of this looking like it doesn't know the first thing about this country it wants to see destroyed

but then ideologically motivated people will get out of this whatever they want to. there's probably also shitheads who watched it and said "how damning of Maduro that he did not agree with her claim of 50 countries" or w/e

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#154
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-13/with-cocaine-flowing-push-to-pry-generals-from-maduro-hits-snag

"With Cocaine Flowing" lmao

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#155

swampman posted:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-13/with-cocaine-flowing-push-to-pry-generals-from-maduro-hits-snag"With Cocaine Flowing" lmao



Longtime observers, however, say the generals doubt the promises will be kept. This is a major reason why the revolution isn’t moving as quickly as some had hoped when Guaido electrified the world on Jan. 23 with his declaration. This has led to impatience and finger-pointing. U.S. policy makers and those around Guaido -- as well as leaders in Brazil and Colombia -- are eyeing one another and worrying about failure. Officials in each camp have said privately they assumed the others had a more developed strategy.



hah