#1
#2
i look at my stupid son and how he uses WildKratz Cheetah Power to run away from me while I try to get a diaper on him while he pisses on my floor and i can't imagine i'd have a life expediency measured in more than hours if someone put him in a fucking cage.
#3
really lolling at my New England friends who post shit like "i had no idea that republicans are like this, i must be living in a bubble," like yeah, do ya think?? fucking moron. doug stanhope is a dirtbag piece of shit but he said something once that i think about all the time: "i don't like when minorities say you can't understand racism because you're white. i say you can't understand racism because you're NOT white. i hear the shit they say when you leave the room. they don't hold back on my account"
#4
did you have a good father's day
#5
the ur-experience of being trapped somewhere with Democrat Party white people over the last couple decades has been two hours of sagely nodding conversation about how the real problem of racism is invisible and "systemic", followed by three hours of slow, cautious testing of whether the room prefers Bleeding Edge Irony Racism or Hard Truths Of A Simple Cracker Racism
#6
BREAKING: both options have now been deprecated in favor of Booj Non-Whites Prove They Can Hang On The Podcast Racism
#7

shriekingviolet posted:

did you have a good father's day



My dad unironically did the Actually our ancestors were white slaves bit to me and I was jelly of people who don't have a relationship with their father

#8
fucking lol I've never heard of that one, how does it go
#9
there's two starter packs available, Indentured Servant Humblebrag and Ultimate Harper's Cartoonists Used To Draw The Irish In A Kind Of Fucked Up Way Edition
#10
jr trying to softball lessons from settlers into conversation with uncle at family thanksgiving banquet
#11
Liberals dancing around how Obama built all the child prisons and then attacking Trump from the right on foreign policy and calling PUtin a communist, hell is other people
#12
the best thing about Obama's deportation shit is that it didn't get him any credit at all. my grandparents are proto-MAGA and they would constantly rant about how obama was letting all the damn illegals in and i didn't have the desire to Well Actually them about how he deported more people than anybody. and they wouldn't believe me if i did, and if i went to the effort to prove it they'd say it wasn't enough and hate him anyway. then trump won on how obama was too soft on immgration. great work dude. your compromise was literally worse than nothing
#13
Can it still be a compromise if he was doing what he really wanted to do
#14
the thing about obama is that i don't think he really Wanted to deport all those people but shucks darnit that's what the law says and it would get him some credibility with the right. and to defend him juuuuust a little bit that was the period before it was obvious that in politics you can do whatever you want as long as you attack anyone who criticizes you and never apologize
#15
the dsa vid sorta reminds me of puritan witch burning and exorcism especially with the shame chants
#16

jansenist_drugstore posted:

the dsa vid sorta reminds me of puritan witch burning and exorcism especially with the shame chants



#17

shriekingviolet posted:

fucking lol I've never heard of that one, how does it go



white indentured servants in pre-revolutionary america are the same thing as slaves so black people are whiny

#18

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

jansenist_drugstore posted:

the dsa vid sorta reminds me of puritan witch burning and exorcism especially with the shame chants



i don't disagree with what they did at all, i was just surprised at the word shame when i heard it. i also agree that it is a shameful thing, but it is a strange word to hear chanted

#19
i agree a guillotine wouldve been more appropriate

#20
standing around ice people with guillotines in restaurants would be cool
#21
guillotines are hot auction pieces:

"Louisette is rather a tall lady.

Made of iron, steel, copper and wood, she stands 300 centimetres (9 ft 10 inches) high, and that part of her that once ended the lives of men, and of women too, when the lever – the déclic – was pushed down weighs 40 kilograms (88.19 pounds). This weight is made up by the mouton which is the metal block that holds the guillotine’s blade in place and which weighs 30 kilograms (66.14 pounds). Added to this is the weight of the blade – 7 kilograms (15.43 pounds), and the kilogram (2.2 pounds) of each of three bolts that kept the blade in place. The blade was oblique. Such a blade had been found to be far more effective than a straight-edged one which was inclined to crush the neck rather than to severe it, making guillotining an altogether messier procedure. The blade always hit a man’s neck with a dull and very sharp thud. (Note that the language of the guillotine is French.)"

#22
i'm actually in paris now, maybe i'll go see this tomorrow
#23
fuck, it was sold in 2014
#24
there's always the free musee de la prefecture des cochons if you want to see one but it is a pig museum
#25

this DSA shit as far as I can tell is this cringey let's yell about morality at these unresponsive husks that's kinda cathartic in the face of feeling absolutely powerless but also accomplishes nothing. like if they threw a nail-bomb into her gilded carriage as it rolled down Pennsylvania ave. I would maybe question the strategic value of that kind of adventurism but more or less respect the intent. it's like that video that got posted recently of the guy who goes to a city council meeting to yell that he was a father! a troop! and an ANARCHIST!!! and he wouldn't take it anymore! at this wrinkled and leering politician who clearly couldn't give less of a shit about being yelled at by a clown.
#26
wots ur alternative tho
#27
it's probably good for recruiting, shouting at these people
#28

Parenti posted:

it's probably good for recruiting, shouting at these people


Hey it netted them Tim Hiedecker. Dsa’s mass base of standup comedians grows bigger by the day.

#29
soon they'll have the perfect tight five to btfo the beltway libs with
#30

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

wots ur alternative tho


good question. Also its not that im against this stuff it just makes me depressed

#31

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

wots ur alternative tho


join an actual revolutionary socialist organization ¯\(._.)/¯

#32

shriekingviolet posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:
wots ur alternative tho


join an actual revolutionary socialist organization ¯\(._.)/¯


The problem is that what we have in North Amerika are microsects, not mass parties or a base. In the absence of those we can’t do much beyond embarrassing bourgeois functionaries at dinner.

#33

shriekingviolet posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

wots ur alternative tho

join an actual revolutionary socialist organization ¯\(._.)/¯



and then do what

#34
all the groupuscules in the US should merge
#35
there a reason why they all split off or formed independently . they can't stand each others' petty bourgeois defects
#36
join the DSA and restart the weather underground
#37

Ruzbihan posted:

The problem is that what we have in North Amerika are microsects, not mass parties or a base. In the absence of those we can’t do much beyond embarrassing bourgeois functionaries at dinner.



or, Like, work with & within communities to help provide that which oppression denies their members, such as helping prisoners get books they want to read that have been de facto banned from prison libraries, demonstrating socialism as a living, breathing force in the world in the many places where capitalist crisis has allowed sympathy with revolutionary aims to bloom. or you could donate to get a geriatric, who ghosted Matt Taibbi for being too radical, into a position where he re-endorses bombing Damascus into fish tank pebbles but still loses a national election in the United States, then contract fail aids and die, there’s a lot of options really.

#38

neckwattle posted:

this DSA shit as far as I can tell is this cringey let's yell about morality at these unresponsive husks that's kinda cathartic in the face of feeling absolutely powerless but also accomplishes nothing. like if they threw a nail-bomb into her gilded carriage as it rolled down Pennsylvania ave. I would maybe question the strategic value of that kind of adventurism but more or less respect the intent. it's like that video that got posted recently of the guy who goes to a city council meeting to yell that he was a father! a troop! and an ANARCHIST!!! and he wouldn't take it anymore! at this wrinkled and leering politician who clearly couldn't give less of a shit about being yelled at by a clown.


Kjirsten Nillsen went home from the restaurant and wrote a new policy to stop separating kids from parents so it sorta worked, that and all the other shit they were eating

#39
I’m not recommending resignation or quietism. Just unhelpfully pointing out that in the short-term struggle against ICE, joining sect Y with the better shibboleth on the Lao People’s Democratic Republic or w/e isn’t an automatic panacea to the strategic weakness that neckwattle was talking about.

In conclusion: everyone should join RCPUSA and get to work on applying the New Synthesis.

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#40

ilmdge posted:

neckwattle posted:

this DSA shit as far as I can tell is this cringey let's yell about morality at these unresponsive husks that's kinda cathartic in the face of feeling absolutely powerless but also accomplishes nothing. like if they threw a nail-bomb into her gilded carriage as it rolled down Pennsylvania ave. I would maybe question the strategic value of that kind of adventurism but more or less respect the intent. it's like that video that got posted recently of the guy who goes to a city council meeting to yell that he was a father! a troop! and an ANARCHIST!!! and he wouldn't take it anymore! at this wrinkled and leering politician who clearly couldn't give less of a shit about being yelled at by a clown.

Kjirsten Nillsen went home from the restaurant and wrote a new policy to stop separating kids from parents so it sorta worked, that and all the other shit they were eating

the new policy is literally just indefinite imprisonment of families and an order to ignore the courts so