#2521
if the goddam forensic institute would work as prescribed this wouldn't be an issue
#2522
oh no all my posting labours lost to some dipshit lol
#2523
let me be IFAP admin
#2524
its kind of over now for this site in this case unless people choose to continue gawking at that person in a sadistic way
#2525
ITS NEVER OVER
#2526
like i think if people want to have a longer discussion about it in light of what happened, it might very well be a good idea. there is just a forum specifically for things like that and it does not need to be falsely premised on like oh we are just talking about someone's twitter account
#2527
i was over it before blinknwheeze was, actually
#2528
also, dont ever capitalize my name again, i find that offensive
#2529
it just looks weird
#2530
but really like I think this may be a good discussion. to have. I have said as much to other people in DMs when things like this have happened before. i just think it's likely to be hollow in the context of this thread
#2531
fucking mental issues have plagued all the forums we've been in dude
#2532
not that i'm against continuing the dialogue i suppose, but if it aint materialistic and anti-psychiatric i'm probably going to continue to tune it out
#2533
to me it's primarily capitalist alienation
#2534
i say all this as someone who had a complete mental breakdown in their mid-twenties
#2535
i've always been left of left, but i can't even begin to describe what it meant to actually read Marx and understand the depth of what he was critiquing - basically everything]
#2536
that happened, i dunno, during the original LF, so i would have been in my thirties
#2537
i thought about suicide pretty much on a daily basis up until that point
#2538
i don't think about it anymore, that's how much Marx means to me
#2539
damn thats crazy
#2540
i think that the absence of any kind of real accessible mental health services and basic support for fundamental human needs in the USA is an atrocity and that the irony stalinist shitpost forum had people who cared and tried to help. gussri didn't have to wind up this way, could have got treatment and maybe come out more or less ok but unfortunately none of that was realistically within our power to affect. that's heartbreaking. the efforts to help were doomed but i think it's wrong to assign any blame to those who tried to reach out.

i think a big part of the slowness to act decisively in the past, at least on my part, comes from the power structures here being very informal. there isn't really any kind established norm about what admins can or should act on unilaterally without building a community consensus first. i personally felt an obligation to try interceding with gussri first even though i obviously wasn't at all equipped to do that and lost my temper, not my proudest moment.

in the future i will probably just go with my gut and immediately exorcise anyone who clearly has a negative relationship with the forums that is hurting their mental health and threatening people, the worst that happens if i make a bad call is everyone yells at me a bunch and the decision gets reversed. like that hilarious time i wasn't paying attention and made some random reddit noob a mod. that was fine.

i'm going to be making a whole bunch of threads for conversations about stuff like this Very Soonfully once i have everything i need to get started, which was supposed to be two months ago, so surely any day now,
#2541

shriekingviolet posted:

hilarious time i wasn't paying attention and made some random reddit noob a mod


lol

i won that contest fair & square ok?

#2542

karphead posted:

fucking mental issues have plagued all the forums we've been in dude



also every other Internet forum and every other locus of “fringe” politics but it’s probably fine to talk about what people do in response especially given the relative population of this place which makes it possible to actually discuss it

#2543
i don’t think it we should discuss this in front of the lurkers though. their minds are not fully formed and they are going to be dating soon, we need to give them a stable and supportive foundation as their breasts begin to bud.
#2544

shriekingviolet posted:

in the future i will probably just go with my gut and immediately exorcise anyone who clearly has a negative relationship with the forums that is hurting their mental health and threatening people,


thank you

#2545
wonder how AZ_IZ_OT is doing
#2546

liceo posted:

wonder how AZ_IZ_OT is doing


as negotiated with them, az_iz's account is still scheduled for reactivation in 2023.

as sv mentioned the approach has generally been responsive to individual/private dialogue and to perceived community consensus (or at least leaving space for it to emerge). this means mod response is slower and sometimes we get it very wrong.

we've had a lot of posters come thru here, good and bad, facing tough mental health challenges, and account creation has for a long time been limited for this very reason.

as per cars suggestion, probably best to further discuss these topics on private subforum and not twitter quaratine thread.

#2547
#2548
i notice theres a lot of these 'sex cults' nowadays, often involving one or multiple celebrities, sometimes not. why cant they just call it international human trafficking, kidnapping like it really is instead of some hip new name. the guy who gets his face broke in in fight club also was in something like this
#2549
human trafficking is only when brown people do it
#2550

dizastar posted:

why cant they just call it international human trafficking, kidnapping like it really is instead of some hip new name.



because people click on the sex cult headlines. because they use them to masturbate

#2551
the years and years of media focus on NXIVM over and above similar stories is absolutely for the target audience to imagine themselves in one of these roles: a man who can rape at will a collection of Hollywood-actress or actress-wannabe woman slaves; a sadistic "favored" woman who acts as slave driver over the man's slaves; one of the slaves. Hollywood is key, specifically Hollywood as a popular myth in the U.S., it's why Mack's tanned white-woman face and blond hair is always the image of the story. It means the fantasy can be more easily mapped over mental terrain shaped by the largely California-created aesthetic of the commercial pornography the fantasist has already consumed. It's "real" rape porn
#2552
everyone but me seems to be in a sex cult, smh
#2553
crashed my own sex party but nobody came
#2554

shriekingviolet posted:

crashed my own sex party but nobody came



#2555

shriekingviolet posted:

crashed my own sex party but nobody came


because your sex party only had

cars posted:

sex cult headlines (and) use(d) them to masturbate


#2556
I'm the sex man.
#2557
#2558
#2559

sovnarkoman posted:

Monthly Review hosted podcast pic.twitter.com/PTpPpjuNRj

— Human Resources at Paulo Friere Charter School (@postcyborg) July 3, 2021



disappointing they manage to mix up astrology (dialectical and legit) with enneagram/mbti (shitty and mk-ultra adjacent).

#2560