We have very credible news that the foreign Maidan story a few weeks ago was in fact directed from the US Embassy and for insiders in politics this is not news at all. This is very boring. People are making jokes why there is no revolution in the US and no regime change. The reason is very simple, there is no American Embassy in the US.
Crow posted:I agree, i think we should have called it a bad mass murder, and not a fascist mass murder. To know what kind of mass murder it was
you agree w/ Hitler
discipline posted:this is excellent:
http://fables-of-faubus.com/
what a bunch of shitheads
discipline posted:link this please
littlegreenpills posted:fascist is worse than bad. my postings bad but noones agitating against it
actually we're just really disorganized and demoralized from how long it's been bad
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fleights posted:
lol it look's like this says Sex. McCaine
Sex. McCaine, Ace Fuckre
A real one, that"s actually legal and valid, because the Soviet Union is back, and I'm a citizen.
it has some footage of the damage to the houses. Last fifteen or so seconds are footage from the bombardment. Basically the residents say that the army did not send any representatives or made any contact with them, attacked in the dead of night, and that there are no separatists even active in the area (they are active within the city center, instead). The residents, including pensioners and children, are staying put, refusing to leave, and people (including elderly) decisively turned out to vote for separation from the Kiev government. They see there is no other option to austerity and state violence.
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deadken posted:hey crow u might now something about this. what's the deal w/ claims that the donetsk people's republic governor pavel gubarev was a member of a russian neo-nazi group
well seeing as there;s a bunch of nazis here parading as communists, i dont see the big problem!
Ha Ha. But you know what, maybe it's true, who cares. there is a huge, active devastation of the organized left (built atop anticommunist, fascist revanchism), and a massive immiseration of the population, why wouldn't there be political confusion? he could have been a fascist, maybe had a change of heart in a materially-deteriorating situation, whatever. really, it's not our problem to navigate some sort of ethical horizon about who to support and uphold or such. separatists may be trade unionists, may be federalists, may be fascists, may be communists, anarchists, and socialists (indeed all of these groups are active); there are a lot of actors in the region since the stakes are high (including imperial powers).
the point of the matter is that US imperialism is very consistent in creating these far-right conditions, in being the greatest threat to any local left challenges (typically through proxies), and exacerbating chauvinist tendencies. For example:
Since 1992, we have provided $20 billion to Russia to support pursuit of transition to the peaceful, prosperous, democratic state its people deserve.
Through the State Department alone. That doesn't account for intelligence black budget, critical IMF support of oligarchs and their allies, and multinational corporate investments and initiatives (which is safe to say far outstrips $20 billion; Yeltsin received a $10b IMF loan in 1996, and $22.6b in 1998). All of that stuff certainly ends up bolstering far-right groups. I would honestly be surprised if some groups are totally untinged by far-right extremists at some point in their history
ilmdge posted:always accuse your enemies of your own sins. if youre a nazi in kiev you can smear separatists by calling them nazis. this strategy will create a cloud of confusion in which people will forget that in kiev theyre nazis or in which people will just call it a wash in terms of naziism. thats my take, that i just made up
also, this is a very reliable propaganda technique, and it's helped along by decades of oriental, anticommunist hysteria