#521
i mean i understand that you think anything that produced you is an abysmal failure, but it's not your mother's fault satan impregnated her
#522

Goethestein posted:
no thanks. just think about it: doesn't work for like the first twelve or thirteen years of its existence - a time longer than the lifespan of many medium-sized mammals. still can't safely be used for another three or four years after that or will likely lead to death. regular autonomic maintenance causes pain, mood swings, bloating, loss of fluids and iron. about one in eight times does not work at all, or only with extreme difficulty - imagine that rate with any other organ system. usage often leads to death in full-grown female without modern medicine. ceases working after only about 30 years of operation (again, imagine that with any other organ system) and chance of producing defective offspring increases dramatically until that point. lethal ectopic pregnancies are extremely common, as are stillbirths, congenital birth defects, and premature births, even with modern nutrition. gestation period of nine months; for the back half of the pregnancy, the mother goes through mood swings, pain, vomiting and becomes increasingly helpless to predators. median litter of only one. offspring does not develop enough internally; comes out utterly helpless and incompetent and remains that way for a startling amount of time: within a few hours after birth a deer or cow will be walking - it will take a human over a year, and at least three before they can do it reliably. it will be about ten years before the human can competently feed itself and be anything other than a joke to predators. initial intercourse causes pain, and infections common



why women are the lesser sex

#523

goatstein posted:



counterpoint: getting kicked in the balls

#524
external testicles have a clear evolutionary purpose. many mammals have internal testicles but the problem is that sperm develops better in less-warm environments. external testicles are more in danger but lead to higher sperm count
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#526
the slightest impact and bam, man down
#527
there is no such thing as an "evolutionary purpose"
#528
at least i don't have a hymen.
#529
how can you count sperm. they are super tiny, man. theory destoryed.
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#531

Cycloneboy posted:
at least i don't have a hymen.



i read they're just a myth anyway

#532

tpaine posted:
you guyz ever get nut shotted? holy shit bro. not even kidding. i mean what the fuck



no i never really have lol knocking on wood

#533

shennong posted:
there is no such thing as an "evolutionary purpose"



nice idiot opinion

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#535

Goethestein posted:

shennong posted:
there is no such thing as an "evolutionary purpose"

nice idiot opinion



teleological arguments are by definition invalid in evolutionary theory, you cretin

#536
teleology refers to destiny not to cause idiot
#537
lmao you don't even know what teleology means in the context of evolutionary theory
#538
Genitals have a clear evolutionary purpose, whereas genitals do not. I are wanty mr. stabby 2 send me to ifap
#539

Goethestein posted:
teleology refers to destiny not to cause idiot



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleology#Teleology_and_science

http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/2/

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#541

shennong posted:
lmao you don't even know what teleology means in the context of evolutionary theory



theres no such thing as evolutionary purpose. fish have gills at random. im a liberal arts major

#542
"Darwin has taught us that seemingly teleological evolutionary changes and the production of adapted features are simply the result of variational evolution, the production of great variation in every generation, and the probabilistic survival of those individuals with the temporarily fittest phenotype.
Adaptedness thus is an a posteriori result rather than an a priori goal-seeking."

-Ernst Mayr
"The Idea of Teleology"
#543

Goethestein posted:

shennong posted:
lmao you don't even know what teleology means in the context of evolutionary theory

theres no such thing as evolutionary purpose. fish have gills at random. im a liberal arts major



ahahaha tell me more, did you take a course in undergrad about it??

#544
yes it is true that creatures do not seek evolutionary adaptations. that doesn't mean that adaptations do not have purposes behind them. this is not difficult
#545
no actually they do not have purposes behind them, you fucking moron. what survives and thrives is what is variably adaptable to the environment and conditions. they are mutations . variations . random changes
#546
rampant fornication
#547
right and the purpose of adaptations is to increase survivability within those conditions. the organism with those adaptations exists because it fit its environment. again, not a difficult concept to grasp
#548

Goethestein posted:
right and the purpose of adaptations is to increase survivability within those conditions. the organism with those adaptations exists because it fit its environment. again, not a difficult concept to grasp



lmao

"this trait is adaptive because it exists"

#549
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#551
that's a very simplistic way of putting it. more specifically, traits exist because they are beneficial or are insufficiently maladaptive to severely impact having viable offspring in context of all other adaptations and environment. for example, the human female can get away with producing inept grubs that cannot even fend for themselves for a decade because human society exists around her and developed to mitigate the failing of needing to produce offspring that are 50% skull by volume. again, not difficult
#552
hahahah okay either youre really that stupid or you are getting stabby. Either way you better flip your lid before i get to stabbeing

#553
what is the function of the stomach? is it to digest food? obviously. is that why the stomach exists? in a meaningful sense, yes. why not call it purpose?
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#556
Officer Dead Ken, prepare the Institute to receive Patients.
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#558

discipline posted:
Goethestein posted:
that's a very simplistic way of putting it. more specifically, traits exist because they are beneficial or are insufficiently maladaptive to severely impact having viable offspring in context of all other adaptations and environment. for example, the human female can get away with producing inept grubs that cannot even fend for themselves for a decade because human society exists around her and developed to mitigate the failing of needing to produce offspring that are 50% skull by volume. again, not difficult



- You, to your wife, while she's in labor



#559
whats epigenetics preshus
#560

discipline posted:

Goethestein posted:
that's a very simplistic way of putting it. more specifically, traits exist because they are beneficial or are insufficiently maladaptive to severely impact having viable offspring in context of all other adaptations and environment. for example, the human female can get away with producing inept grubs that cannot even fend for themselves for a decade because human society exists around her and developed to mitigate the failing of needing to produce offspring that are 50% skull by volume. again, not difficult

- You, to your wife, while she's in labor



she's probably going to just get herself opened up, take it out like removing the battery from a honda, avoid the terrible design of mother nature