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animedad posted:

they're just some shitty magazine in Brooklyn, why is it dire to weigh in on The Jacobin Question in the context of politics. they don't "do" anything


i been mean lately. Love for all posters

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i think most workers in America don't like the words "socialism" or "Marx"
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lol he's not a day trader, he has a wiki page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Chandler , he's head of currency strategy for brown brothers harriman, he's much bigger fish
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In 2007 Chandler began advocating the dollar and has maintained that viewpoint throughout the crisis.
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jools posted:

lol ansel is ex-PSL? that guy is awful, what the fuck is his deal



he left because he "wasn't getting promoted quickly enough" even though he was previously viewed pretty well and worked hard for the party, as soon as the promotions stopped coming quite as fast (and POC were promoted instead of him god forbid) he suddenly felt the same way that I did generally about the organization (having no prior issues at all with the way anything functioned and using it to his benefit until he felt personally slighted) and left

always apparently had an obsession with Gonzo Journalism (Hunter S, his transmet cartoon background on his blog) and joined and left a bunch of other groups mainly to trash them on the internet, the last of which was the Platypoids

at some point in this transformation in between joining and leaving Platypus (also in between sipping cocktails at posh hipster bars in downtown Ohio and his work at a Jersey Mike's Sub Shop) he discovered the True Science of Real 4th International Trotskyism

now just reposts Spart League and """"CPGB""" articles on his blog ("that got 10,000 views guys!!") and then reposts the reposted material on every single Marxist/Socialist Facebook group on the internet, is semi-friendly with other platypoids (including those people that posted all that shit about rational racism or w/e) because CPGB articles and the Sparts or something, denounces everyone else as anti-political sectarians when he gets insulted for posting Spart articles on why every single other group sucks other than the Sparts with quippy one liners, likely doesn't even read the CPGB shit he reposts

I guess he's also like 19 or 20 or something though so lol w/e

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i have trouble believing sparts exist. i've seen them in real life but they are still elusive to me somehow. i've never bought their paper. they are whispers on the wind.
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the fuck is Downtown Ohio?
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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

the fuck is Downtown Ohio?



ex-fucking-actly

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getfiscal posted:

i have trouble believing sparts exist. i've seen them in real life but they are still elusive to me somehow. i've never bought their paper. they are whispers on the wind.



repostin dis:

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I like Jacobin for all the reasons listed as being bad.
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i think hoxhaism is probably correct but i'm too liberal to face the consequences of that.
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i wish i still had that ISO email it was really pathetic. some guy who lived 75 miles from our town wrote a big long essay about how we needed to consult with ISO leadership or we weren't serious
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so how goes being a longshorewoman?
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jools posted:

Lessons posted:

jools posted:

like, why on earth do we want marxism being talked about among Liberal Elites, who gives a shit about them

at worst it doesn't matter, and it probably bleeds over to people that actually matter to some degree

well the problem is the process of making it palatable to these babies removes a lot of the good parts



yeah, so what? the two seem mutually exclusive

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it is just complete fantasy imo that your average american worker would find any given marxist party organ more palatable than jacobin rather than extremely less palatable. it is also complete fantasy to pretend that liberals are all rich or that people who are educated and have service jobs etc. or are under/unemployed and have time to read things, and yet are never gonna give a shit about the 4th international, are somehow a bad thing for marxism that should be shunned
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and again, i really dont think that jacobin's lame positioning re other contemporaries is somehow inherent to its appeal to liberals and in fact i think it's an error in tactics
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jacobin etc = gentrification of crummy trotskyite newspapers
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Yeah but does jacobeans have a front page with dead babies on it
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congrats on giving student president of the subway club yet another stroke with this thread. it's almost as if young white marxists males just CAN'T stop themselves from talking about this ddazzling newcomer to the scene bhaskra sunkarah
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jacobeans thrive in safe spaces but once in power always manage to turn everyone against them
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*stutters and spits on male courtesans* omg I'm such a monster
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roseweird posted:

SariBari posted:

congrats on giving student president of the subway club yet another stroke with this thread. it's almost as if young white marxists males just CAN'T stop themselves from talking about this ddazzling newcomer to the scene bhaskra sunkarah

it was actually just like 5 posts about whoever that is and then 3 pages about ISO and jacobin



hi, jacobin is his magazine and he handpicks all of the worst viewpoints that litter it.

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i think jacobin does some good things and some bad things. i dont really think they should attack blogs or perceive themselves as a proper platform for melissa gira grant
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i dont think it has to be part of their appeal. i dont even think grant is dramatic, i think she's a mainstream liberal and i think both of those cases are redundancies for appealing to liberals and unnecessary because they cost themselves actually existing left support
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No, it's because anti-prostitution fems are stupid and wrong, and criticizing them is easy and often funny.
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who cares baout anything. Fuck a shit
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what i'm getting is that you're not interested in this conversation tpaine