#281

trakfactri posted:

The Taliban's response (...) seems pretty reasonable:


catchphrase

#282

tears posted:

been thinking a lot about coronavirus and how the film team amerirca world police was released 16 years ago



damn, i'm getting old.

#283
check out this bs from the old gray nazi
#284
disease caint spread without hosts - common dystopian scifi tv trope
#285

tears posted:

been thinking a lot about coronavirus and how the film team amerirca world police was released 16 years ago


#286
today a lot of people died from corona virus disease-2019, its really fuck up and i dont agree with it but apparently whether i agree with it or not means nothing
#287
how are you feeling, tears???
#288
im all cured now thank you
#289
It’s going to get worse before it gets better.
#290
at times like this, we must remember that "it is what it is"
#291

88888 posted:

at times like this, we must remember that "it is what it is"


#292

88888 posted:

at times like this, we must remember that "it is what it is"


i refuse!

#293
I will not.
#294
with all this hysteria sometimes i think it's us who are sick, not coronavirus patients. namaste.
#295
aparently, according the "government" i am ok to return to work now, but there is no there is no work to return to *opening beer and also opening wine* cool, for me
#296
massive support for your direct action protest against dying of corona by relentlessly failing to die of corona and thus demonstrating your true commitment to DYTD
#297
quarantine measures extended here, so we got another 3 weeks minimum of very restricted movements.

possible tips regarding mobility for people a bit further behind;

(swampman particularly) the dogwalking market has inverted, you can now rent a dog to go for a walk.

get a deliveroo/ubereats bag so that you can move through the city with less hassle from cops.

get access to a printer so you can print official/forged documents that may be needed for movement.
#298
Rand Paul had harsh words for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, calling him evil and blaming him for much of the conflict in the region. "If I were to see Assad walking down the street, I wouldn't feed him. He is an evil man who has gassed his people and is at least partly if not mostly responsible for this," Paul said

#299
Rand Paul will die of corona virus now.
#300
fuckin crazy out. hear old people saying more and more, 'never seen anything like this before'.

we're gonna compare social systems now. particularly which had the legitimacy to temporarily separate family members (80% of transmission is within the family), and which country spent that legitimacy at the border, enriching white border thieves. i've noticed too, the great success that china has had fighting covid, gets popularly credited to 'authoritarian measures'. the yankee booshwasee papers fundamentally misunderstand chinese socialism and what it can accomplish, mass health for one. not been a big concern here. on the ground our class witnessed maoist china creating a mass elderly, within living memory. when socialism doubled the life expectancy within 1 generation. you'll watch these weeks how the yankee delights in the question, which of their elders to kill, "triage", and then plays it out.

the failure of capitalism to react to this public health crisis has already happened. one way to estimate the # of carriers, is by back-calculating from the death rate. if the death rate is say 0.5% to 1%, and the delay from infection to death is ~24 days-- let's run some simple numbers on it (dividing by small numbers is treacherous-- but the principle is valid i think). if it's 0.5% then there are 200 infected per death. if it's 1%, then 100 infected per death. let's say 150 infected per death. because of the time delay, the current deaths, reveal an infection rate >24 days ago. the virus takes around 24 days to kill, 5 for symptoms to show, 5 to worsen, 15 or so to die in hospital. 400 deaths today, means that around 24 days ago, 400 * 150 = 60000 infected here at the end of february. like i said capitalism has already failed to confront this crisis. 60000 infected 2 weeks before measures were put in place, and a doubling rate of 3 days (the rate observed), means by march 1, there were 120000, march 4 = 240000, march 7 = 480000, etc, and by mid-march, the class enemy had let over 2 million become infected. mid-march is when the first quarantines were considered.

see the enemy for who he is. the enemy fills prisons, it's not his job to fight a virus. the enemy's white dogs, who can afford air travel and cruise ships, yankee dogs, are specifically who spread the virus in our communities. the enemy's police don't want to help, but they do see it as an opportunity for street control. i watch em concentrate from my window. what could they do, shoot it? these aren't lies or exaggerations, this is what happened. compare your backwater social system to chinese socialism as you watch amerika kill its own. 400 dead doubles every 3 or 4 days until mid-april.

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#301


https://hardcrackers.com/amazon-knowingly-putting-customers-risk-florida-amazon-worker-speaks/

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#302
Trump is asked if he sold stock in the run up to the outbreak. He describes it as a “nasty” question. He goes into a rambling answer even by his own standards. “It cost me billions of dollars to be president,” he says before praising Melania as a great first lady and a then segues into a riff about the fact that George Washington had two desks, presumably a reference to the fact that he was the president and a businessman. Trump then adds he is now a “wartime” president. “I’m glad that this team and me are here for this horrible thing,” he says.
#303
I thought toyot's numbers had to be wrong, but I did my own digging and they're not at all. I found this academic paper analyzing early data, which said hospitalization to death was avg. 10 days, SD 5 days, in analysis of early days of the Chinese outbreak.
And we already know infection to symptoms onset can be up to 14 days (some have suggested even longer)

The 1% death rate is also only when health care is performing fully well, is not overwhelmed, and is universal. The rate went up to 13% in Wuhan city itself during the most overwhelmed period, during which as the report puts it "a breakdown in healthcare delivery probably occurred".

I have a little bit of first hand experience with US health care, which I would already describe as a breakdown in healthcare delivery. It seems very easy to multiply a few numbers together and come up with worst case scenario death toll estimates for the US that are extremely big numbers.
#304
Great news for Trump, as he loves talking about how amerikkka has Very Big Numbers, The Biggest.
#305
ehh recent reports are saying that italy's fatality rate is 420% so another way to run the numbers yields more like 69 billion amerikans dead by 5 days ago which leads to a dramatically different polemic
#306
#307
#308

toyot posted:

see the enemy for who he is. the enemy fills prisons, it's not his job to fight a virus. the enemy's white dogs, who can afford air travel and cruise ships, yankee dogs, are specifically who spread the virus in our communities. the enemy's police don't want to help, but they do see it as an opportunity for street control. i watch em concentrate from my window. what could they do, shoot it? these aren't lies or exaggerations, this is what happened. compare your backwater social system to chinese socialism as you watch amerika kill its own. 400 dead doubles every 3 or 4 days until mid-april.


#309

shriekingviolet posted:



life comes at u fast

#310

toyot posted:

the enemy's white dogs, who can afford air travel and cruise ships, yankee dogs, are specifically who spread the virus in our communities.



I don't think you should say these kind of things, the underlying logic here is indistinguishable from anti semitism — rich people who don't belong here are nefariously carrying diseases into our community. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Socialism isn't going to see a return into the parochial community but rather a deepening of the process of globalization (if we want to call it that) that's going to retain the same risks but also allow for a planned, global response

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#312
i guess it was retort to something not being said here, but widely other places, trump called it a chinese virus, but the chinese did everything they could to stop the virus. it was the rich white jet set and rich travelers who casually brought it home. that's important for reasoning why it's hit europe and the U$ coasts so bad. the worst class of people you've ever met, 40-65yo wealthy anglo, yankee, euro tourists & businessmen are why we're in lockdown. if i'm allowed to critique any people, it's my own, their pleasure travel and non-jobs have risked millions of lives.

maybe we have different ideas of socialism but in mine the global north is done flying around in airplanes. either secularly because we've reconsidered its 10% of emissions and dropped the technology. or because the planes have been redistributed to the global south, where on average, nobody's flown in an airplane. so i don't think the risks are going to be the same.

#313
I could be wrong but I imagine the culprit is world trade and not Western tourists visiting China
#314
why are you trying to make general something when we can be specific? with an open air lifetime of 1/2 to 5 days it doesn't survive on asian manufactures, because trade takes longer than that to cross the ocean. we know who brought the virus into our communities, was talking to an SF friend on saturday. she was gonna host her college roommate, but with everything, told her to stay home. this roommate is a banker in london, she had a big deal to do in NYC, then was flying to SF to visit. this banker was incensed she'd have to change her plans. my friend had been taking good quarantine precautions, and didn't want to risk anything. her banker roommate said she thinks she already got it in january anyway, so she was immune to having to change her lifestyle at all. she ended up coming to SF and just stayed with another friend. so look at the map, because that's how it spread and who spread it.
#315

toyot posted:

we know who brought the virus into our communities, was talking to an SF friend on saturday. she was gonna host her college roommate, but with everything, told her to stay home. this roommate is a banker in london, she had a big deal to do in NYC, then was flying to SF to visit. this banker was incensed she'd have to change her plans. my friend had been taking good quarantine precautions, and didn't want to risk anything. her banker roommate said she thinks she already got it in january anyway, so she was immune to having to change her lifestyle at all. she ended up coming to SF and just stayed with another friend. so look at the map, because that's how it spread and who spread it.



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#316
those pesky bankers!!!
#317

marlax78 posted:

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look prick, stop calling me an anti-semite. everybody in that story was white american. you're accusing yourself with this false connection, you need to see the enemy for who it is.

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#318
the protocols of the bankers of corona
#319
seriously though i get your point toyot but there is a big difference between the booj/pb and the labor aristocrats who make up the vast bulk of tourists responsible for a lot of the spread around the world via cruises etc. so your message is a little muddled in the detail even if the spirit is correct
#320
What's funny about the above conversation is that a large portion of the rich Amerikan crackers who have actively been spreading COVID are likely to blame the Jews once they come down with it