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Conversely I met a bunch of rich conservative nerds in college who could drop $200 on board games in a month and had bins of MTG cards or painted miniatures back home so I'm sure some of my analysis comes from some lingering juvenile sense of inadequacy.
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good 2 see the class analysis of gamers is advancing dialectically
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My contribution: Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge is a game for lumpenproles
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#1205
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class is correlated with, but not identical to, income level. it is all about the relationship to the dominant mode of production

since your average political pundit is not Marxist and consistently erases class, all they can do is look at Trump's base and see "white working class" or w/e, because they're just looking at income level (but even this is very bad analysis, since Trump's voters have higher income than Clinton voters on average).

Trump's base is not the working class, they're settlers with petite-bourgeois consciousness. just think of them as Ulster loyalists after 2 pints or die-hard South African apharteid supporters or white slaveholders in Haiti half-dead from typhoid, and you will immediately recognize that distinct combination of cruelty and stupidity that characterizes them at every stage in history
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#1208
Black Belt
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thats kind of an odd slice to look at in the absence of the rest of us history tbh. most US 'race riots' were started by the organized (whether military or union members) white population, and have targeted oppressed nations.
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rolaids posted:

I may have said this before but IMO a lot of nerd culture is materially based in upper classes, where kids have excess money from parents for paintable figurines, rare foil trading cards, monthly fees for online games, and the latest movie action figures, etc. A lot of nerds are people who got whatever collectible they wanted growing up and now as adults have to deal with lack of gainful employment, lack of a romantic life, lack of social capital, etc. It is easier for people like this to retreat into fascist myths of grandeur--which consciously borrow image from nerd culture--than to engage with socialist materialism. While I agree that there may be nuanced ways of winning nerds over to the left I'm not sure the average white male nerd demographic is at all fallow ground for socialism.



Counterpoint: our foremost contemporary MTW intellectual,

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Marxist Leninist Raditz
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What a clown.

The Saiyans were quintessential settlers, extirpating indigenous peoples with inconvenient claims on land at the behest of capital. They were net beneficiaries of exploitation and, while Frieza did eventually vaporize them with a Death Ball when they became too difficult to control, framing them as oppressed is no better than apologism for the American white working class. Shameful!
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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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i love knowing that i saw the future queen of england pretend to have sex in a filing room on basic cable
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Harry is 5th in line to the throne, behind two toddlers, AND his fiancee is Catholic

jesus christ, what kind of communist are you that you're not familiar with the rules of succession to the British crown?
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shapes posted:

Harry is 5th in line to the throne, behind two toddlers, AND his fiancee is Catholic

jesus christ, what kind of communist are you that you're not familiar with the rules of succession to the British crown?



He's also not Charles' son

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toyotathon posted:

settlers of catan and land enclosure, or: why I've replaced the robber with a small figurine named "resistance"


i saw something a while back about this sort of anti-Catan that seems like it'd be pretty good for kids to learn about the importance of banding together to kill white people, got kind of a weird fetishization of generic indigenous peoples thing going on though

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1841560/anti-catan-space-biff-review

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littlegreenpills posted:

He's also not Charles' son


is he just wearing fake ears then

#1217
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all their ears are fake, lizards dont have external ears
#1218
"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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if trump wasn't so manifestly stupid i'd suspect that the entire thing is 11th dimensional chess where he distracts you by being shitty on twitter while the actual republicans tear you apart
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http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/donald-trump-madman-article-1.3665163

After his latest spasm of deranged tweets, only those completely under his spell can deny what growing numbers of Americans have long suspected: The President of the United States is profoundly unstable. He is mad. He is, by any honest layman’s definition, mentally unwell and viciously lashing out.

Some might say we are just suffering through the umpteenth canny, calculated presidential eruption designed to distract the nation from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, or perhaps from unpopular legislation working its way through Congress.

Quite possible. But Occam’s razor, and the sheer strangeness of Trump’s behavior, leads us to conclude that we are witnessing signs of mania.


i guess it is a sickness of the liberal mind that leads to conclusions like this. first it was all steve bannon's fault, now they're leaning even more heavily into the mental illness excuse. i like how they're dressing this up in the language of logic, even though occam's razor leads to the obvious conclusion that the president is simply a gigantic piece of shit.

i don't think the distractions are calculated on his part though, i think his minders just let him off the leash and point him in the right direction when a distraction is needed (which is almost constant anyway)

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hes mad because he retweeted some fascists or believes things that are probably false, but all the other people that do that stuff are just bad guys
#1221
"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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one thing i've noticed is that trump (with the russia connection) has become the excuse for liberal calls for bipartisanship and compromise the same as the War on Terror and, before that, the USSR: yes we may have our differences but we need to put those aside to deal with this unprecedented threat. and the net effect is also the same, the republicans do whatever, but we feel like good patriots opposing the foreign baddies
#1222
chickeon
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you cracked the fucking code goat
#1223
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thank you.
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looool
#1225
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looking at roy moore though it's entirely possible that even if trump is totally guilty he may stay in office anyway because removing him is too much trouble as long as he stays out of the way of shooting ropes all over the rich
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Online
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no matter how bad trump behaves republicans dont really give a shit. that being said they could always remove him and all it means is pence is in charge so theres not much to lose really, if something actually implicates trump, which i dont really foresee. i think kushner could go down though which is possibly funnier
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Now is the time for hillary to muster her legions and press her claim. the memes are cast!
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seriously though, acute political violence in the heart of empire please.
#1229
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The court filings from Flynn's plea hearing Friday say a "very senior member" of Trump's transition team asked Flynn to contact officials from UN Security Council countries, including Russia, to learn where each country stood on the vote on a resolution condemning Israeli settlement activity.

A person familiar with the transition's effort on the UN vote said it was well-known and a collaborative effort by various transition officials, including Reince Priebus, Steve Bannon, Flynn and Kushner, adding that none of them "ordered" or "directed" the others and all were working towards the same goal of standing by Israel.


if this is what they have kushner on, it's an israel scandal and not a russia scandal at all lol.

and yet... (no surprise)

The court documents provide the clearest picture yet of coordination between Flynn and other Trump advisers in contacting Russian officials to influence international policy.

#1230
UNUSUALY COOL
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what is this fantasy where Trump is separate from the leadership of his party, they don't give a shit who the president is or what he says as long as he's aligned with them, that's why George W. Bush was acceptable to them, and Trump has not done a single substantial thing to separate himself from reasonable expectations of any other Republican who might otherwise have been elected in 2016
#1231
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i like that it is now politically acceptable to say bush is smart if you're comparing him to trump
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anyone from the neofolk discussion earlier, does this fall more on the "fash" end or the "gnosticism & dmt" end



i kinda enjoyed (most of) it, so i am hoping it's not objectively evil

but then again i've been let down before, like with drudkh or wagner
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Constantignoble posted:

anyone from the neofolk discussion earlier, does this fall more on the "fash" end or the "gnosticism & dmt" end



i kinda enjoyed (most of) it, so i am hoping it's not objectively evil

but then again i've been let down before, like with drudkh or wagner



Call me crazy, but, I'm still confused on how music could be fascist. If a certain member participates in fascist political activity then that person just might be a fascist, but, making and performing music is oddly humanist and vulnerable corporeally which fascisn loves to deny... Unfortunately it all is hella CAPITALIST, but, I feel fascism as a term should be held for those who attempt to subdue or racially purify by political or violent means and not just nerds who are exploring theatre and sound and dance and performance.


In fact, there was a wave of psychologists in Germany at the height of the Weimar that realized fascism was excluding the body and got into all kinds of creative dancing to fight the evils of the brain...

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levoydpage posted:

Call me crazy, but, I'm still confused on how music could be fascist. If a certain member participates in fascist political activity then that person just might be a fascist, but, making and performing music is oddly humanist and vulnerable corporeally which fascisn loves to deny... Unfortunately it all is hella CAPITALIST, but, I feel fascism as a term should be held for those who attempt to subdue or racially purify by political or violent means and not just nerds who are exploring theatre and sound and dance and performance.


In fact, there was a wave of psychologists in Germany at the height of the Weimar that realized fascism was excluding the body and got into all kinds of creative dancing to fight the evils of the brain...


i think this might be a valid point if you were talking about purely instrumental music that existed in a vacuum but when a guy has lyrics about killing the jews or swastikas on an album cover or both it might be fascist music youre dealing with. note that im not talking about that heilung video because im not very familiar with the group and they also look fairly innocuous

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lo posted:

levoydpage posted:

Call me crazy, but, I'm still confused on how music could be fascist. If a certain member participates in fascist political activity then that person just might be a fascist, but, making and performing music is oddly humanist and vulnerable corporeally which fascisn loves to deny... Unfortunately it all is hella CAPITALIST, but, I feel fascism as a term should be held for those who attempt to subdue or racially purify by political or violent means and not just nerds who are exploring theatre and sound and dance and performance.


In fact, there was a wave of psychologists in Germany at the height of the Weimar that realized fascism was excluding the body and got into all kinds of creative dancing to fight the evils of the brain...

i think this might be a valid point if you were talking about purely instrumental music that existed in a vacuum but when a guy has lyrics about killing the jews or swastikas on an album cover or both it might be fascist music youre dealing with. note that im not talking about that heilung video because im not very familiar with the group and they also look fairly innocuous



Right on. I just really appreciate the fool, and sometimes this takes on a devils advocate persona...

For instance, you are at a show and you catch some lyrics of the sort... Likely everyone would be disgusted or at least carried through the experience of prompting these feelings and polarizing (hopefully just disgusting) the crowd. Possibly a valuable experience when played out... Like in the vacuum of the stage it just brings things out if you.

???

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levoydpage posted:

If a certain member participates in fascist political activity then that person just might be a fascist, but,


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Constantignoble posted:

heilung


everything about this video seems like the epitome of blinkandwheeze's very funny post about how all fascists really want to do is be transported to planet renfair and dance around in a meadow to the sound of the hurdy-gurdy, except its planet forest dweller and the soundtrack is played on a bone xylophone. if these people really want to get in touch with their ancient nordic blood they should prick their finger on some blackthorn and die of septicemia

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levoydpage posted:

In fact, there was a wave of psychologists in Germany at the height of the Weimar that realized fascism was excluding the body and got into all kinds of creative dancing to fight the evils of the brain...


come along on the first tuesday of every month to watch how one community group is challenging capitalism through the medium of interpretive dance

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tears posted:

Constantignoble posted:


heilung



everything about this video seems like the epitome of blinkandwheeze's very funny post about how all fascists really want to do is be transported to planet renfair and dance around in a meadow to the sound of the hurdy-gurdy, except its planet forest dweller and the soundtrack is played on a bone xylophone. if these people really want to get in touch with their ancient nordic blood they should prick their finger on some blackthorn and die of septicemia


to me it looks similar to all those really kitschy folk metal bands but with less electric guitars