very skeptical that this is an example of the US "walking away" and not, you know, the yanks deploying a fellow NATO army to carry out an invasion and balkanization plan they themselves currently lack the political will and capital to do, but have been desperate to implement, and have tried to in a variety of ways including via the SDF, for more than 10 years. cars talk of how the CIA smuggled a coup attempt in broad daylight got me thinking about this.
also they really want them to buy jets
shoutout to the completely unsubstantiated "suspected links to russian intelligence" claim which cites... a guardian article with a completely unsubstantiated single line about "suspected links to russian intelligence"
they walked 30km away
oh sure but i mean the way it is being described is that even that 30km represents some kind of concession by trump rather than what seems to be the US merely subbing turkey who they wanna sell cool tech to and mend a few fences with, for the kurds who they have to fund and have some leftist ideology and alarming tendencies towards rapprochement with damascus
sovnarkoman posted:ilmdge posted:
We'll see if the Kurds and the Syrian state are able/allowed to make any progress toward a reunion.
i dont see that happening tbh
looks like i am being proven wrong as there are news about syria and ypg reaching a deal under russian&american supervision and that SAA will take over manbij and even kobane
kinch posted:sparklefeather posted:
what's turkey's goal here, other than to kill some kurds?
the plan is for turkey to release and rearm all those isis prisoners since the US has to keep up appearances
Hundreds of ISIS Supporters Flee Detention Amid Turkish Airstrikes
The #US now is trying to stop the deal between #SDF, #Russia and #Damascus to stop #Turkey. It seems that the US wants to transfer the SDF territories to Turkey and its jihadi militias. If true, #MMC and #SDF should fight against US invaders right now https://t.co/dNev365OaZ— Endi Zentarmi (@EndiZentarmi) October 13, 2019
“If this president were serious about ending wars and winning peace, he’d actually articulate a strategy that would protect against a re-emergence of ISIS and provide for the safety of our Syrian partners,” Mr. Reed added. “But he has repeatedly failed to do that. Instead, this is another example of Donald Trump creating chaos, undermining U.S. interests, and benefitting Russia and the Assad regime.”
The #1 trait of ideology is that it’s always the truth flipped 180 degrees, they couldn’t directly admit ISIS actually was secondary to the more important goal of destroying Syria, and that combatting ISIS effectively can only mean defeating US interests and reuniting Syria. Therefore, Trump is reaping what he has sown by being forced into this position of choosing between Turkey and the SDF, i.e. they are saying that its regrettable that “we must turn NE Syria into a jihadi emirate by means of Turkish proxies, because Trump did not effectively turn the other parts of Syria into jihadi emirates”! Which is why we’re seeing this weird situation where the US is condemning both the Turkish invasion AND condemning the Syrian government’s intervention to protect Syrian territory from the Turkish invasion they just condemned!
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3/ "SDF agreed to the entry of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and the SAA control will extend over the entire region, starting from Ayn Diwar in the east until Jarablus in the west."@akhbar pic.twitter.com/NQxXna7j2g— Jenan Moussa (@jenanmoussa) October 15, 2019
4/ "SAA forces will be moving into SDF territory using three axis:— Jenan Moussa (@jenanmoussa) October 15, 2019
1/ From Tabqa in northern direction towards Ayn Issa and its countryside. Also in northern direction towards Syrian Turkish border at Tell Abyad and towards the west."@akhbar pic.twitter.com/Z1LDBRw1ka
5/ "Second axis from Manbij into the direction of Ayn al Arab on Syrian Turkish border until Tell Abyad and towards the west." (the agreement mentions only the Arab name of Ayn al Arab, which is called in Kurdish: Kobani).@akhbar pic.twitter.com/ta51miVcRv— Jenan Moussa (@jenanmoussa) October 15, 2019
8/ "By that, the SAA will be present in the entire region east and north of the Euphrates and in coordination with local military councils, while area between Ras al Ayn and Tell Abyad stays as an unstable combat zone until it is liberated."@akhbar pic.twitter.com/C7vKppGO4l— Jenan Moussa (@jenanmoussa) October 15, 2019
9/ "SDF confirmed they are prepared to preserve the territorial unity of the Syrian Arab Republic and are under the flag of Syrian Arab Republic.— Jenan Moussa (@jenanmoussa) October 15, 2019
They will stand by the SAA in confronting Turkish threats to Syrian land under leadership of Mr. president Bashar al-Assad."@akhbar
“About 500,000 human beings were killed in Syria while Barack Obama was president & leading for a “political settlement” to that civil war. Media has been more outraged in the last 72 hours over our Syria policy than they were at any point during 7 years of slaughter.” BuckSexton— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 17, 2019
edit: sorry he went on some arabic television to whine, he sent his deputy to DC instead who is whining about similar shit apparently
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baghdadi dead, willing to put money on turkey having sheltered him for years now.
they killed him in idlib, that magical gumdrop land of 50000 hospitals and 1 million aid workers, where responsible groups like HTS protect the people and refuse to deal with anyone from ISIS
michael weiss is described as "inconsolable" and "losing fucking mind"
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