#2521

sovnarkoman posted:

https://deadline.com/video/adam-curtis-bbc-cant-get-you-out-of-my-head/looking forward to adam curtis releasing the same documentary for the 50th time


Hypernormalisation was trash but I'll still watch this, mentally compose a series of searing takedowns, and never post them

#2522
strap in petrol

#2523
oh boy
#2524
watching weirdo russian political pundits on youtube with the automated subtitles on

#2525
watched all hours of adam curtis' new series this weekend. much more successful than hypernormalization. he didn't rely on ambiguous patterns and exclaim some vastly important phenomenon without really backing it up before moving on. good, clear historical analysis of power structure and social epistemology. big criticism (and i dont know how much bbc has a role in this) is that he didn't elaborate the fact that navalny is nazi fucking skkkum whatsoever when discussing the power struggle in russia... still too anti-putin for the NYT reasons rather than the real ones.

e: 7/10

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#2526
Still waiting for it to appear on my plex server. Really looking forward to it now, thanks. He should be banned from talking about russia though
#2527
i began watching wang bing's tie xi qu, a 9hr documentary about an industrial complex in northern china that was booming during mao's era - and was originally built during the japanese imperial occupation to produce steel, copper and others for the japanese - and slowly began to croak in terms of productive output after the capitalist restoration and dengist reforms... i've only seen part one out of 4 as it is and its a realist (in the direct cinema documentary style, similar to frederick wiseman for example) depiction of the everyday worker's life, shows them working, playing mahjong in the communal rooms, hear them complain about miserable salaries, less and less job days due to slow death of their workplace, privatization, lack of pensions and so on. in a time where its hard to get a non partisan view of deep mainland china this is very good. ive also seen til madness do us part which is a 4hr piece about a mental hospital and bitter money which follows young adults who moved from rural yunnan to huzhou, a city in periphery of shanghai. this is a thing that happens and happen during every country which has a period of industrialization but we often learn about it in history class in very short and abstract ways, so its very nice to have actual footage of what that looks like. hope and dreams about big city life being crushed by the reality of exploitation and urban pauperism
i wanted to watch his 'dead souls' documentary, which is about ex pensioners of laogais during the cultural revolution who talk about their experience there. telling it how it was

this old man in the short clip discusses how mao expresed about how 5% of the population were rightist and reactionaries. I never actually read about this but it seems odd to me. just as the man says it seems very arbitrary and not materialist at all. do anyone have more information about this?
#2528
semi-related, i find the chinese system of internal migration very curious. i can appreciate the reasons for it but the effect is essentially the entrenchment of intergenerational (dis)advantage. oh well
#2529
if anyone knows how I can watch this, lemme know. thanks

http://colourfield.de/en/films/russia-from-above-kinofilm/
#2530

burritostan posted:

if anyone knows how I can watch this, lemme know. thanks

http://colourfield.de/en/films/russia-from-above-kinofilm/


looks like you'll need to be in an aircraft above russia!

#2531
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1gqxvobAbAwKB?t=1s

Chinese docu about how they lifted people out of poverty almost 10 times faster than the USA is throwing people back into it.
#2532

Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:

sovnarkoman posted:

https://deadline.com/video/adam-curtis-bbc-cant-get-you-out-of-my-head/looking forward to adam curtis releasing the same documentary for the 50th time

Hypernormalisation was trash but I'll still watch this, mentally compose a series of searing takedowns, and never post them



So I finished watching the final part of this last night. I'm going to go out on a limb and say... it was good, actually?? Not about to give it unqualified praise, of course. But bearing in mind always that it is presented as an "emotional history", and watching from the critical perspective we should all be accustomed to when consuming any media, it was actually a rather intriguing and worthwhile experience. For every time I winced at a generalisation or mischaracterisation of something, I was very pleasantly surprised at other elements. Notably, in the final part (spoiler alert!), he very explicitly frames the liberal idea of the 2016 election being stolen through a misinformation campaign by Cambridge Analytica and the Russians as a conspiracy theory in the pejorative sense (and I enjoyed his broader exploration of postwar conspiracy theory subsuming both truth and fiction).

Anyway, I think this is his best work since the Power of Nightmares. Ever since 2009's more explicitly experimental 'It Felt Like A Kiss' he's been trying to work out how to strike a balance between a more impressionistic style of filmmaking and the formal concerns of the documentary, and this is definitely the closest he's come to really making it work. It helps perhaps that he's not confined himself to a dead-end topic like "what's the deal with afghanistan? (feat. a bunch of b-reel I found in a closet in kabul)" or "what's the deal with russia? (feat. a shitty book i just read and got too obsessed with)".

#2533
does it have the Kylie Minogue song in it
#2534
No. I can't find the interview now so I'm paraphrasing but he felt he couldn't use it because it was too iconic.
#2535

Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:

It helps perhaps that he's not confined himself to a dead-end topic like "what's the deal with afghanistan? (feat. a bunch of b-reel I found in a closet in kabul)" or "what's the deal with russia? (feat. a shitty book i just read and got too obsessed with)".


#2536
I turned it off after he said "I'm not interested in materialism" and set out his dual genocides theory in episode 1
#2537

Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:

No. I can't find the interview now so I'm paraphrasing but he felt he couldn't use it because it was too iconic.



hmm... gonna give him that one... everybody gets one

#2538

swampman posted:

I turned it off after he said "I'm not interested in materialism" and set out his dual genocides theory in episode 1



one of my big problems with the first couple episodes was this whole segment too:



from what i can tell that part was mostly cribbed from one of those classic british books about how mao/someone close to mao was an insane evil person with bad teeth or whatever
#2539
imagining a 6 hour doc where getfiscal does frustrating takes
#2540
*extremely twitter voice* parts of this piece of media can be read as Problematic and it is therefore Cancelled in its entirety.
#2541
*extremely Great Helmsman voice* We have the Marxist-Leninist weapon of criticism and self-criticism. We can get rid of a bad style and keep the good.
#2542

aerdil posted:

classic british insane evil person with bad teeth


#2543
#2544

Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:


#2545
post-america should be regularly shown in high school social studies classes and adam curtis should go in the trash along with the rest of england
#2546
something about that video made me so uncomfortable i had to close it like half way through
#2547

Synergy posted:

something about that video made me so uncomfortable i had to close it like half way through



lurk more™

#2548
#2549

Synergy posted:

something about that video made me so uncomfortable i had to close it like half way through


It's kind of interesting that communists don't have a good argument for how they plan to deal with the corrupting power of Satan? Who must ever undo the kindly deeds of Men

#2550

swampman posted:

Synergy posted:

something about that video made me so uncomfortable i had to close it like half way through

It's kind of interesting that communists don't have a good argument for how they plan to deal with the corrupting power of Satan? Who must ever undo the kindly deeds of Men


#2551
wow didnt know lenin got shot by a satanist
#2552
remembering the glory days of a dozen Satanic temples per Geocities webring
#2553
the decay of edgelord performative internet religion from goofy satanism to smug racist atheism to today's neonazi tradcaths is a terrible shame.

hipster dipshit that I am, as a dumb teen I bucked the trends by double carding as a discordian while leading an evangelical youth group. both were tragic mistakes but this is how children learn.
#2554
the best thing about the satanic reds website, imo, is how they have canonised FDR
#2555
I like the tabs that say "666" and "FUN"
#2556
watching the tv show, 'oz', about a prison . i realized the sound effects for many things are the same sounds used in games that use the source engine, such as the stabbing sound in counter strike source amongst others
#2557
Just watched a 4-hour long superhero movie. No i didn't but if I did I'd definitely admit it to everyone online.
#2558
panos cosmatos's film "beyond the black rainbow," which is exactly the 2 hour long synthwave music video you would expect from a nerd whos father made rambo first blood part 2
#2559

tears posted:

panos cosmatos's film "beyond the black rainbow," which is exactly the 2 hour long synthwave music video you would expect from a nerd whos father made rambo first blood part 2


he's a cool director and i hope gets to make more movies

#2560

Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:

Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:
sovnarkoman posted:
https://deadline.com/video/adam-curtis-bbc-cant-get-you-out-of-my-head/looking forward to adam curtis releasing the same documentary for the 50th time

Hypernormalisation was trash but I'll still watch this, mentally compose a series of searing takedowns, and never post them



So I finished watching the final part of this last night. I'm going to go out on a limb and say... it was good, actually?? Not about to give it unqualified praise, of course. But bearing in mind always that it is presented as an "emotional history", and watching from the critical perspective we should all be accustomed to when consuming any media, it was actually a rather intriguing and worthwhile experience. For every time I winced at a generalisation or mischaracterisation of something, I was very pleasantly surprised at other elements. Notably, in the final part (spoiler alert!), he very explicitly frames the liberal idea of the 2016 election being stolen through a misinformation campaign by Cambridge Analytica and the Russians as a conspiracy theory in the pejorative sense (and I enjoyed his broader exploration of postwar conspiracy theory subsuming both truth and fiction).

Anyway, I think this is his best work since the Power of Nightmares. Ever since 2009's more explicitly experimental 'It Felt Like A Kiss' he's been trying to work out how to strike a balance between a more impressionistic style of filmmaking and the formal concerns of the documentary, and this is definitely the closest he's come to really making it work. It helps perhaps that he's not confined himself to a dead-end topic like "what's the deal with afghanistan? (feat. a bunch of b-reel I found in a closet in kabul)" or "what's the deal with russia? (feat. a shitty book i just read and got too obsessed with)".









Everything was forever until it was no more is a fantastic book that curtis does a big disservice to with Hypernormalisation. this series is good though yeah