DRUXXX posted:
lol if you really think faustian bullshit like elevating the third world to the level fo the first world is the solution. you god damn cultural imperialist shitbirds!
No you're right let's let them wallow in their own shit that's the enlightened, compassionate thing to do. How dare we spread the cultural imperialism of hot showers.
DEAD ARE ALL THE LEFT: NOW DO WE DESIRE THE HOT SHOWERS TO LIVE
unfortun\ately, he died early last year in canada during a reunion tour of HErman's Hermits. but i feel like he would have wanted us to at least recognize the fact that his Hermits were more than some mere pop schmop riding on the beatles coattails forgettable whisp of a music group, but were much more, and, as evidence, i meekly and with more than a little fartiness submit what, for me, was always one of their more moving and pretty songs, which i will link right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3QzwazfM9g
Do you not see that inequality, the not having of others, springs from your having, is relative to your having, only exists in relation to your having? You, as a first worlder with your abundance of resources. This is not "the 1%," this is you. All of the first world will have to sacrifice many things it holds dear. 'Yes, I would like the oppressed of the worlds to have better lives,' you say to those who within earshot and are not repelled by your stench, but these words are overcome by your shouts, your pleas that you might retain your dear lifestyle. "But I want to live to be over 50," you cry! "But I want my daughter to be taught to read!" "But I want to take hot showers every day!" So much that even the thought of giving up the tiniest luxury, even the thought of a cold shower in the morning to start your day, leads you to launch immediately into a desperate attempt to defend and justify your luxury, your privilege. To defend that which is so dear to you that you will make sweeping generalizations about the "Left" and bringing down those whose beliefs are much the same as yours is in a flailing attempt to protect your privilege.
disestablishmentarian posted:
No you're right let's let them wallow in their own shit that's the enlightened, compassionate thing to do. How dare we spread the cultural imperialism of hot showers.
DEAD ARE ALL THE LEFT: NOW DO WE DESIRE THE HOT SHOWERS TO LIVE
lol yeah because there's no grey area between 'destroy all water heaters' and 'hey maybe we shouldn't / couldn't in a post-capitalist world have things like hot showers and etc... all the time'
ah! the only way i can even sleep anymore!
discipline posted:
my favourite thing to do is lay down in the tub and let the hot shower water pour over me until i fall asleep. one hour showers? one hour and fifteen minute showers? such times, and more, become truly possible when the gentle pattering of water is loud enough to drown out your snores.
ah! the only way i can even sleep anymore!
same.
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
can't sleep, clowns will eat me
disestablishmentarian posted:
Another reason the left is in decline is because of the existence of the internet whereby its would be intellectual advocates choose to occupy their time with posting on obscure and pointless message boards instead of raising the red flag and storming the Bastille.
fart
lol
crustpunk_trotsky posted:
once I discovered the therapeutic value of running the space heater and air conditioner simultaneously I could never go back to the old ways...
lol
crustpunk_trotsky posted:
once I discovered the therapeutic value of running the space heater and air conditioner simultaneously I could never go back to the old ways...
lol @ my old office building in grad skoool we had a situation just like that. you see, in June/July/August, the building's central thermometer broke such that the air conditioner would only ever run at full blast or not at all. why they didn't turn it off manually every once in awhile, i dont know, but i do know that the reason they didnt fix it was because they didnt have the budget, having spent it on moving expenses to a new building that also turned out to have a broken air conditioner. the temperature in the building would be thus held at a constant 52 degrees fahrenheit. made that hour long hot shower at the end of the day sweet bliss, lemme tell ya... anyways, in my office, we brought coats and sweaters to wear, until i got the idea to bring in a couple of space heaters, which worked to bring the average temperature to about 61-62 or so...
now let me inform you that colloidal silver makes a superior additive to thermal paste. aluminum oxide may make the heartless sick, but with a tin funnel, hot air can vent through the chimney, dissipating a crippling case of threshhold lead toxicity caused by iridescent technicolor-reactant silver facepaint provided by the cowardly mgm lab techs.
anistorian posted:
Do you not see that inequality, the not having of others, springs from your having, is relative to your having, only exists in relation to your having?
This is dumb and false. Sorry broski. The fact that I use hot water in my shower does nothing to deny a hot shower from someone in the Central African Republic or the rest of the third world. The only way you could make the argument was if hot showers were so energy intensive as to collectively drive up the cost of energy, robbing this wealth from the third world. Given that many third world nations are energy exporting countries, the losses from marginally higher energy prices resulting from hot showers would be offset by the gains in welfare from the poor, energy exporting nations. But this is all stupid because hot showers in the first world don't dramatically affect energy prices.
But let's return back to my central point. From a simple marketing prospective (fuck you world for making me think like this), imagine the two ideologies approach a middle class man or woman in India. Capitalism says I can offer you running water, a better diet, heat, and maybe oh just maybe a car. Marxism/socialism/mao thirdworldism whatever the lefty fad of the day is comes to him and says, think not of hot showers comrade, we have to sacrifice. Unless the Indian is a malcontent misanthrope who hates his fellow humanity (aka the rhizzone) he's going to side with the capitalist, every single time.
Seriously, you're going to be denying material progress as the main selling point of the left (haha because it failed in achieving that goal)? Do you think the peasants of Russia rallied to the flag of the red banner because they wanted to overcome cisgendered patriarchy and create a just society and all of those other things that only someone so privileged (now i'm using your words) as a western truly cares about? No, they wanted some fucking running hot water.
Excuse me, I going to go poop in my heated toilet. I don't want the water that splashed on my fat firstworlder ass to be slightly discomforting. 
disestablishmentarian's showers dont fuckin matter
disestablishmentarian posted:
This is dumb and false. Sorry broski. The fact that I use hot water in my shower does nothing to deny a hot shower from someone in the Central African Republic or the rest of the third world. The only way you could make the argument was if hot showers were so energy intensive as to collectively drive up the cost of energy, robbing this wealth from the third world. Given that many third world nations are energy exporting countries, the losses from marginally higher energy prices resulting from hot showers would be offset by the gains in welfare from the poor, energy exporting nations. But this is all stupid because hot showers in the first world don't dramatically affect energy prices.
But let's return back to my central point. From a simple marketing prospective (fuck you world for making me think like this), imagine the two ideologies approach a middle class man or woman in India. Capitalism says I can offer you running water, a better diet, heat, and maybe oh just maybe a car. Marxism/socialism/mao thirdworldism whatever the lefty fad of the day is comes to him and says, think not of hot showers comrade, we have to sacrifice. Unless the Indian is a malcontent misanthrope who hates his fellow humanity (aka the rhizzone) he's going to side with the capitalist, every single time.
Seriously, you're going to be denying material progress as the main selling point of the left (haha because it failed in achieving that goal)? Do you think the peasants of Russia rallied to the flag of the red banner because they wanted to overcome cisgendered patriarchy and create a just society and all of those other things that only someone so privileged (now i'm using your words) as a western truly cares about? No, they wanted some fucking running hot water.
Excuse me, I going to go poop in my heated toilet. I don't want the water that splashed on my fat firstworlder ass to be slightly discomforting.
The hot shower is a metaphor you fukkin idiot. But I'm glad my speech that talked about how you'd have to sacrifice women going to school made you write that big steaming pile about 'marketing' leftism to a middle class man or woman in "India." The peasants who raised the red banner were serednyak and kulak scum anyways so they should have been exterminated just like you.
disestablishmentarian posted:anistorian posted:
Do you not see that inequality, the not having of others, springs from your having, is relative to your having, only exists in relation to your having?This is dumb and false. Sorry broski. The fact that I use hot water in my shower does nothing to deny a hot shower from someone in the Central African Republic or the rest of the third world. The only way you could make the argument was if hot showers were so energy intensive as to collectively drive up the cost of energy, robbing this wealth from the third world. Given that many third world nations are energy exporting countries, the losses from marginally higher energy prices resulting from hot showers would be offset by the gains in welfare from the poor, energy exporting nations. But this is all stupid because hot showers in the first world don't dramatically affect energy prices.
But let's return back to my central point. From a simple marketing prospective (fuck you world for making me think like this), imagine the two ideologies approach a middle class man or woman in India. Capitalism says I can offer you running water, a better diet, heat, and maybe oh just maybe a car. Marxism/socialism/mao thirdworldism whatever the lefty fad of the day is comes to him and says, think not of hot showers comrade, we have to sacrifice. Unless the Indian is a malcontent misanthrope who hates his fellow humanity (aka the rhizzone) he's going to side with the capitalist, every single time.
Seriously, you're going to be denying material progress as the main selling point of the left (haha because it failed in achieving that goal)? Do you think the peasants of Russia rallied to the flag of the red banner because they wanted to overcome cisgendered patriarchy and create a just society and all of those other things that only someone so privileged (now i'm using your words) as a western truly cares about? No, they wanted some fucking running hot water.
Excuse me, I going to go poop in my heated toilet. I don't want the water that splashed on my fat firstworlder ass to be slightly discomforting.
paroidoxically, you have been had.. yet you are also useless. have you always been so null and void?
also who the fuck are you, i knew ye for naught and lo - my pursestrings shall sully if i draw them from your hand with even a moment's more delay. begone :frogout:!
DRUXXX posted:disestablishmentarian posted:
This is dumb and false. Sorry broski. The fact that I use hot water in my shower does nothing to deny a hot shower from someone in the Central African Republic or the rest of the third world. The only way you could make the argument was if hot showers were so energy intensive as to collectively drive up the cost of energy, robbing this wealth from the third world. Given that many third world nations are energy exporting countries, the losses from marginally higher energy prices resulting from hot showers would be offset by the gains in welfare from the poor, energy exporting nations. But this is all stupid because hot showers in the first world don't dramatically affect energy prices.
But let's return back to my central point. From a simple marketing prospective (fuck you world for making me think like this), imagine the two ideologies approach a middle class man or woman in India. Capitalism says I can offer you running water, a better diet, heat, and maybe oh just maybe a car. Marxism/socialism/mao thirdworldism whatever the lefty fad of the day is comes to him and says, think not of hot showers comrade, we have to sacrifice. Unless the Indian is a malcontent misanthrope who hates his fellow humanity (aka the rhizzone) he's going to side with the capitalist, every single time.
Seriously, you're going to be denying material progress as the main selling point of the left (haha because it failed in achieving that goal)? Do you think the peasants of Russia rallied to the flag of the red banner because they wanted to overcome cisgendered patriarchy and create a just society and all of those other things that only someone so privileged (now i'm using your words) as a western truly cares about? No, they wanted some fucking running hot water.
Excuse me, I going to go poop in my heated toilet. I don't want the water that splashed on my fat firstworlder ass to be slightly discomforting.The hot shower is a metaphor you fukkin idiot. But I'm glad my speech that talked about how you'd have to sacrifice women going to school made you write that big steaming pile about 'marketing' leftism to a middle class man or woman in "India." The peasants who raised the red banner were serednyak and kulak scum anyways so they should have been exterminated just like you.
i dunno, hot showers are still kind of a hot topic. maybe we could use a different bathroom metaphor... may I suggest one of "wiping one's own ass?" its a contentious question that I think will relate better to peoples' lives. front to back or back to front...? and are the balls (or virtual balls, in the case of those not privileged enough to be white males) at the front or.. at the back? is the fact that left to right is not even on the table teh fault of the patriarchy?
these are the questions of our day. perhaps should we cease wiping our own asses altogether? i've read, in Books, that diets high in milk-fats and caffeine can induce "diarrhea," which, while usually an unpleasant symptom of bodily unhealth, is something that I think we could harness here for greater social equity amoung the masses - as diarrhea's natural anal rinsing action could eliminate the evils of ass-wiping all together!
DRUXXX posted:disestablishmentarian posted:
This is dumb and false. Sorry broski. The fact that I use hot water in my shower does nothing to deny a hot shower from someone in the Central African Republic or the rest of the third world. The only way you could make the argument was if hot showers were so energy intensive as to collectively drive up the cost of energy, robbing this wealth from the third world. Given that many third world nations are energy exporting countries, the losses from marginally higher energy prices resulting from hot showers would be offset by the gains in welfare from the poor, energy exporting nations. But this is all stupid because hot showers in the first world don't dramatically affect energy prices.
But let's return back to my central point. From a simple marketing prospective (fuck you world for making me think like this), imagine the two ideologies approach a middle class man or woman in India. Capitalism says I can offer you running water, a better diet, heat, and maybe oh just maybe a car. Marxism/socialism/mao thirdworldism whatever the lefty fad of the day is comes to him and says, think not of hot showers comrade, we have to sacrifice. Unless the Indian is a malcontent misanthrope who hates his fellow humanity (aka the rhizzone) he's going to side with the capitalist, every single time.
Seriously, you're going to be denying material progress as the main selling point of the left (haha because it failed in achieving that goal)? Do you think the peasants of Russia rallied to the flag of the red banner because they wanted to overcome cisgendered patriarchy and create a just society and all of those other things that only someone so privileged (now i'm using your words) as a western truly cares about? No, they wanted some fucking running hot water.
Excuse me, I going to go poop in my heated toilet. I don't want the water that splashed on my fat firstworlder ass to be slightly discomforting.The hot shower is a metaphor you fukkin idiot. But I'm glad my speech that talked about how you'd have to sacrifice women going to school made you write that big steaming pile about 'marketing' leftism to a middle class man or woman in "India." The peasants who raised the red banner were serednyak and kulak scum anyways so they should have been exterminated just like you.
Check your theory bro!! Pull up!!!!!
discipline posted:
damn guess people will always want stuff... good bye communism
babyfinland posted:
this thread turned out really funny bc people will take anything you say seriously if they feel intimidated by you enough to want to have something to attack u with i guess
nice gaslighting. mods??
DRUXXX posted:
hot showers which are powered by the energy infrastructure that exists in the US? yeah i'd say they are
this is more than a little misleading considering how small a portion of US energy infrastructure is dedicated for residential use, let alone water heating specifically. though it does depend on privileged access to natural gas resources.
Lessons posted:
this is more than a little misleading considering how small a portion of US energy infrastructure is dedicated for residential use, let alone water heating specifically. though it does depend on privileged access to natural gas resources.
thank u for fact checking my troll
DRUXXX posted:Lessons posted:
this is more than a little misleading considering how small a portion of US energy infrastructure is dedicated for residential use, let alone water heating specifically. though it does depend on privileged access to natural gas resources.thank u for fact checking my troll
thank u for being offended that people are fact checking your "trolls"
DRUXXX posted:Lessons posted:
this is more than a little misleading considering how small a portion of US energy infrastructure is dedicated for residential use, let alone water heating specifically. though it does depend on privileged access to natural gas resources.thank u for fact checking my troll
epic trollery.
gyrofry posted:
actually electric in-line water heaters are all the rage these days and way cheaper and more efficient
that said, environmentalism is the epitome of liberal imperialism
tpaine posted:DRUXXX posted:Lessons posted:
this is more than a little misleading considering how small a portion of US energy infrastructure is dedicated for residential use, let alone water heating specifically. though it does depend on privileged access to natural gas resources.thank u for fact checking my troll
you misspelled "trot"