anyway that's the Left Case For Trump so far, looking forward to continuing the discussion in ways very similar to this post for the next few pages.
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it was probably hard to pick up on because of fight with the man in the godzilla halloween costume
Workers' Party of Korea/Pulgasari erasure. User probated for 10,000 years until it's time to conquer Earth.
As opposed to Babylon 5 where Straczynski, including Straczynski's debates with Usenet, had much more direct influence on the scripts, and so it's a lot of 1990s Democrat political caricatures wearing Groucho Marx glasses. Like the aliens in that video at the top are his idea of Arab Muslims as divided between liberal Sufis and a majority that's a baffling, violent child race, but hey, they can't be Muslims because they're also a monoculture of alcoholics that names a drink after Ivanova after she mighty-whiteys them into submission and brings out their inner United States. The show's fans considered stuff like that the reason why Babylon 5 was too smart to be as popular as Deep Space Nine.
Otherwise it was an exercise in "how many Mighty Whiteys would you like today", the main hero of the show is Tron from Tron who nukes an alien ship, winning the war through his cleverness in nuking one alien ship, which impresses the aliens so much they give up and have an internal religious war over him. The nuke also earns him a foreign wife from among the enemy who fulfills her destiny by turning herself half-cracker to marry her cracker savior. It's like if Kira married Sisko but had surgery to fix her nose first.
I think 1990s Democrat sounds accurate re: the show's politics, like Sorkin. I was pulled into it as a kid though because it presented earth as already having this dysfunctional, quasi-fascist government that just goes completely fascist in the show and a big war breaks out, and I remember the way they presented it as being really scary, like a huge weight landing on everybody. Doesn't break out of Sorkin though. Anyways, I couldn't think of anything else Ivanova was in other than Maniac Cop before looking at IMDB. Apparently there was a Dallas soap opera knockoff, a steady diet of single-serving T.V. appearances, but more recently a lot of video game voice-actor roles, which makes me happy. Glad to be working.
Also on the self-awareness of the actors, haven't read this but just discovered Londo wrote a novel with another guy while acting on the show. It's Galaxy Quest basically. Aliens watching a T.V. space opera confuse a fictional space ambassador for the real thing and kidnap him because they need his diplomatic advice.
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this is A) a profoundly unkind depiction of Straczynski's scifi heartbreaker,
They didn't get a lot right, but they tried. Namely, the implication that bastions of good can and should fight the slide to fascism. What's really unpleasant about most of today's media isn't that fascism is depicted, it's that it's depicted as a necessary evil that is more efficient and powerful than democracy. Love long... and obey.
calling this an argument implies a level of mutual intelligibility that isn't there
awesome post got him!
Watching Trekkies fighting each other
i watched this once through after you posted it
i went to youtueb just now to find some music and its front page recommendations are about 50% babylon 5 vids