#441
the whole region reeks like rotten eggs because of the safety additive they add to natural gas, there's a cloud of it blowing over us from the massive pipeline explosion yesterday. i'll miss these transient little synthetic weather catastrophes
#442
are your taps on fire yet?
#443
i just read two articles on the pipeline explosion and they didn't mention the cause or even alluded to it. what up?
#444

“They had told me there was gas building up in the underground. For some reason or another the gas had stopped flowing and it built up and it just exploded,” Frederick said.

lol

#445
welp
#446

tears posted:

are the buckets filled with jack daniel's ribs suitible for long term storage?

tom can’t get rid of ‘em!

#447
I’m gonna miss anticipating the collapse of society
#448
is that in the present or future tense?
#449

i just read two articles on the pipeline explosion and they didn't mention the cause or even alluded to it. what up?

once you get to know the kind of people who maintain pipelines, instead of wondering why one pipeline has exploded you will instead wonder at the miracle that all the others aren't constantly blowing up all the time

#450
yeah besides cheap skating on the infrastructure, operational security around pipelines is from the Dark Ages compared to, say, a consumer bank branch. Just Saying.
#451
pipelines are like the lowest-capital thing in the carbon infrastructure... so it's like, why pay for rural security when sensors catch loss of containment at the speed of sound, the network has built-in capacity to redirect flow, & replacement is off-the-shelf schedule 40... they could also be used in the future to move water... unlike a distillation column that, like your facebook friend from high school, is one-of-a-kind and \$ and high maintenance and barely holding itself together
#452
imo they couldn’t catch a damn family of sloths during a coordinated assault because those companies’ “cyber security” is practically nonexistent. I also think you’re majorly overestimating the redundance and hardiness of their physical infrastructure, but that’s just the angle of interest for me there.
#453
I mean yeah pipelines are low-capital, with the lack of security largely coming from companies’ over-confidence in existing measures & the giant fraud machine that is private-sector security auditing, combined with an overall lack of experience in how those measures will work out in practice, but I guess what interests me are potential crises under capitalism, and that’s one in the making imo.
#454
refineres are also not really protected physically. the only reason there hasnt been a major attack at one is because literally nobody gives a shit.
#455
i love walking around underneath a just-installed scrubber and finding footlong 3/4" bolts that have just been vibrated right out of wherever
#456
yeah the point of attack is pipelines, and they're no better
#457
i don't really know about all this propaganda where pipelines are self-healing super-robots. i know that's what the companies that maintain them want people to believe, i guess, and auditors rubber-stamp it.
#458

cars posted:

i don't really know about all this propaganda where pipelines are self-healing super-robots. i know that's what the companies that maintain them want people to believe, i guess, and auditors rubber-stamp it.

the company propaganda i heard about em was more like, well would you rather we move it by TRAIN?? do you want your chlorine gas by RAIL? everybody in industry is fed the same rainforest mushroom to put the train/pipeline duality on hair trigger

#459
I don't understand the problem here. i love trains.
#460
there are no chlorine pipelines and heaven help us if a need for them existed
#461
all the plants in a cluster sell each other their excess production, so like a chlor-alkali unit to split salt, NaCl, and make the gas. there are a lot of plastics plants in the baytown-la porte chemical corridor with chlorine gas stored in thin-wall API-2000 vessels. had one boss at a plant i worked at, show me how they'd had a number of gases under fairly tight control, stored volumes were small, loss of containment could be isolated to high elevations, but if the winds were due west and the chlorine tanks were directly hit, like a tornado or whatever in a hurricane eyewall, it's hundreds of thousands of pounds of gas owned by the class enemy, the boss warned me (not in those words), houston would need to get everybody to shelter-in-place
#462
paging end of cycle thread. end of cycle thread you are needed in collapse of society thread
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#464

stegosaurus posted:

i love walking around underneath a just-installed scrubber and finding footlong 3/4" bolts that have just been vibrated right out of wherever

this is more likely than them just being dropped during installation?

#465
anyone else noticed all the floods
#466
yes it is making for some v tempting rent options in floodplains
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#469
there was a magnitude 4.6 earthquake in my hometown directly linked to fracking a couple weeks ago
#470

tears posted:

its all good until the river rises above the water plant

#471
had a 30 minute blackout in my neighbourhood the other day and half of me was happy to light some candles and enjoy the sunset but the other half was in an anxiety spiral over whether i could even make tea without electricity
#472

sparklefeather posted:

had a 30 minute blackout in my neighbourhood the other day and half of me was happy to light some candles and enjoy the sunset but the other half was in an anxiety spiral over whether i could even make tea without electricity

i inherited from my mom a constant irrepressible desire for the whole power grid to go down forever, but also a love of tea, so i relate to this. maybe you could find a used coleman stove or something & keep it around just in case

#473
one of the things i cherish about mali is that no matter when or where you are you can find someone nearby making tea on a charcoal burner to drink and chat with
#474
Hell,
#475

sparklefeather posted:

had a 30 minute blackout in my neighbourhood the other day and half of me was happy to light some candles and enjoy the sunset but the other half was in an anxiety spiral over whether i could even make tea without electricity

this why u rent a place with a gas stove so u can still cook even if the electricity goes out as long as u have some matches

#476
the ice in the arctic? at a record low? again? what the fuck! we need you to live!
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trakfactri posted:

#480
SNL