#8041
Lots of leftists seem to be working in logistics atm but there's no crossorg chatter so no one coordinates or has a clear picture of the industry in other parts of the country. It's infuriating, personally
#8042
None of the orgs seem to do any internal investigative work that would be worth sharing anyway
#8043
I mean I have friends in two of the major orgs so we talk but that’s abojt it
#8044

stegosaurus posted:

None of the orgs seem to do any internal investigative work that would be worth sharing anyway


my internal investigation has discovered that logistics is fucking gay and sucks balls

#8045
UE has some internal papers on it I hear but I haven't seen them. I wonder how much support could be mustered for an overview. I might make a thread in a few days with some articles or something
#8046
i only know the vague layman sense of the word logistics and from googling around a bit it seems like 99% impenetrable corporate garbage, and i have a pretty high ability to decipher that usually. and i assume you don't just mean air mail delivery scheduling. what the hell actually is logistics in the way you are using it
#8047

drwhat posted:

i only know the vague layman sense of the word logistics and from googling around a bit it seems like 99% impenetrable corporate garbage, and i have a pretty high ability to decipher that usually. and i assume you don't just mean air mail delivery scheduling. what the hell actually is logistics in the way you are using it



moving box

#8048
move boxes, get money no pooping get money
#8049
is having a holistic international understanding of move box important
#8050
technically it involves multiple boxes and they not all the same size. so.
#8051
i previously worked for a big logistic company, rhymes with Spedex Found, and i certainly agree with something i read in an article about italian delivery company workers going on strike, that all the money is in making the workers work faster and process more volume in less time. never have i worked a place where they were so concerned with limiting hours of the low-level employees. i did everything i could to slow it down, because speed causes accidents and the like.

anyways, i left that and now i'm in construction, which is vastly different. i've gotten hassled a bit about working slow, but i'm only an apprentice so i don't let it bother me too much. it's odd because you get assigned a job, and then you just have to make sure you don't take too long doing it. the foreman doesn't come around very often, so you kind of have to self motivate yourself to go quick. i was trying to radicalise the other day and not having any luck, because its actually an industry where you can make pretty good money, and your skills (when you're skilled) give you the ability to just switch jobs site or businesses if you don't like your foreman or whatever. i've thought more though, and i think a good angle of attack with be focusing on how we get taxed so much, not having much say in where it goes, and the super-rich don't get taxed too much.
#8052
second as a double post,
i read the anarchist polemic from france, and its main point is that industry is extremely focused on just-in-time delivery, so attacks focused on logistics will have a tremendous knock-on effect.
obviously the main benefit of just-in-time delivery is limited the amount of warehouse space needed, but a paranoid part of me always thinks that it prevents worker seized factories from being effective as they'd run out of materials so quickly, and they wouldn't have the connections to get more (and of course, other companies would close ranks and refuse to do business with them). but i admit that's paranoid since i'm relatively sure that the political climate where i'm based isn't particularly worried about workers seizing industries since class consciousness is so low.
#8053

Red_Canadian posted:

i was trying to radicalise the other day and not having any luck, because its actually an industry where you can make pretty good money, and your skills (when you're skilled) give you the ability to just switch jobs site or businesses if you don't like your foreman or whatever. i've thought more though, and i think a good angle of attack with be focusing on how we get taxed so much, not having much say in where it goes, and the super-rich don't get taxed too much.



kitchens work in a similar way, except the pay is worse

edit: to expand, i think in both cases there's frequently an "ownership fantasy" in play which puts off workers from organising. this is combined with labour being organised in such a way that if you're any good, you will relatively rapidly be promoted into positions where you have disciplinary power over other workers (like, if you want, you could be a head chef easily within ten years of starting out, with the power to employ or sack people)

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#8054
That's been my experience of kitchens as well. Every sous-chef and head chef is convinced they are going to be the next Matty Matheson or Danny Smiles. Many of them are building Instagram brands towards that end.

This is aided and abetted by every single cooking show, where the protagonists are restauranteurs. Their background is always 'i started in the dish pit, now I have restaurants in 5 countries'.

Does anyone remember which Bromma piece has the part about ship builders for the US Carriers?



#8055

Belphegor posted:

This is aided and abetted by every single cooking show, where the protagonists are restauranteurs. Their background is always 'i started in the dish pit, now I have restaurants in 5 countries'.


gorbon ransay episodes where its a clueless middleclass couple who really wanted to own a restaurant, they spend most of their time drinking in the bar and have a freeezer full of frozen meat. gorbon says wow a hundred times and is super nice to the servers

#8056

Red_Canadian posted:

second as a double post,
i read the anarchist polemic from france, and its main point is that industry is extremely focused on just-in-time delivery, so attacks focused on logistics will have a tremendous knock-on effect.
obviously the main benefit of just-in-time delivery is limited the amount of warehouse space needed, but a paranoid part of me always thinks that it prevents worker seized factories from being effective as they'd run out of materials so quickly, and they wouldn't have the connections to get more (and of course, other companies would close ranks and refuse to do business with them). but i admit that's paranoid since i'm relatively sure that the political climate where i'm based isn't particularly worried about workers seizing industries since class consciousness is so low.

thank you. i now have a better appreciation of international move box in the context of rhizzone.

#8057

Belphegor posted:

That's been my experience of kitchens as well. Every sous-chef and head chef is convinced they are going to be the next Matty Matheson or Danny Smiles. Many of them are building Instagram brands towards that end.

This is aided and abetted by every single cooking show, where the protagonists are restauranteurs. Their background is always 'i started in the dish pit, now I have restaurants in 5 countries'.

Does anyone remember which Bromma piece has the part about ship builders for the US Carriers?



thats the worker elite I think

#8058
the key when your moving boxes is to damage them so people stop ordering so much stupid shit but you also want to mix up the boxes sometimes that way the boss has to deal with lots of complaints and you can say, fucker boss i dont know what your talking about, maybe you should get off your ass and investigate but they never will
#8059
i was riding on a cheap boat cruise in minnesota sponsored by large tech company a month or so back and one of the ivy league nerds told me that if a job is repetitive in any way it will be automated. almost all of them were tall scandinavians.

none of them knew who marvin heemeyer was.
#8060

joel posted:

i was riding on a cheap boat cruise in minnesota sponsored by large tech company a month or so back and one of the ivy league nerds told me that if a job is repetitive in any way it will be automated. almost all of them were tall scandinavians.

none of them knew who marvin heemeyer was.



its cool because no one who says that has ever worked a repetitive job in their life

#8061
hey joel
#8062
ive been teaching chemistry and now i wish id become a chemist

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#8063
there is something quite cool about teaching the haber process, the contact process, cement production, blast furnaces, all the fundamental processes which underpin, like, everything, and with them you get a little equation which goes reactant 1 + reactant 2 -> product + CO2 and i just nod and go yup, thats where it all came from, 411ppm and rising, all aboard
#8064
!! and each shitty equation represents X # of plants w/ maybe 500-2000 workers apiece, in total millions of workers, hands moving in certain synchronicity, under duress, to put that shit in the air, crazyness

also like this earth's not dyin cuz of "technology" or "capitalism" per se it is very SPECIFIC capital enabled by this era, $billion+ chemical plants, responsible for EVERY crisis. the language of life is chemistry so this isn't too shocking. the ozone hole was HCF2Cl, acid rain SOx and NOx, ocean eutrophication artificial NH3, climate change CO2, plastic pollution, pesticides, etc. every crisis was first conceived on a P&ID. thats half the story and the other half is the old war, land transformation for agriculture, de-foresting and draining wetlands to produce carbohydrates Cm(H2O)n thru solar-powered chemical reactors inside of plants, for our mouths instead of for other life here. subtract chemical capital and agriculture, and life thrives for millions more years.
#8065
why am i paying for co2 for recarbonating water after lime softening thereby sequestering the carbon as calcium carbonate sludge, that i then have to pay someone else to truck out so they can sell it as a soil amendment. all these folks ought to be giving me money
#8066
by me i mean the city govt, an old boys' club that would spend any proceeds to make more golf courses
#8067
that would be watered gratis, by me
#8068

ialdabaoth posted:

why am i paying for co2 for recarbonating water after lime softening thereby sequestering the carbon as calcium carbonate sludge, that i then have to pay someone else to truck out so they can sell it as a soil amendment. all these folks ought to be giving me money


dont forget to include state symbols

#8069
o right

*ahem* calcium carbonate, as limestone, is the official state rock of tennessee
#8070
basically what happened today is i have lots more clothes which suit my trans woman frame + my trans woman taste and also a bunch of healthy groceries, thanks to birthday money,
#8071
#8072
dude smoking cbd is great
#8073
"being a part of the 1% is fantastic" - j. sakai
#8074

psychicdriver posted:

dude smoking cbd is great



lol get back to me when you smoke weed

#8075
it is we'd
#8076
got this email from the Open Insulin project, to breed an ecoli to produce insulin. they've been at it 6 years and have fortunately stalled:

Hey all,

Ok I just finished giving my presentation in DC at the Gene Synthesis Governance Meeting which was a collab between HHS and John's Hopkins. It was a pretty intimidating crowd and I had 15 mins to give a presentation followed by a panel talk. I did mention Open Insulin and it got a huge positive response. I wanted to give a heads up in case we get contacted by any of the folks about the project.

The event had policy people from: FBI, WMD, National Academy of Sciences, Gingko BioWorks, MIT, CDC, HHS, NDU, National Security Council Staff, JHU APL, Federation of Amercan Scientists, US Department of State, OSTP, USDA, MITRE, Dept of Homeland Security, Sandia National Labs, Berkley Labs, Booz Allen Hamilton, US AMRIID, US Dept of Defense, George Mason U, DTRA, Department of Energy, Dept of Commerce, NIST, NIH, International Health Security, CSIS, US Senate HSGAC, National Science Foundation, AAAS, Taiwan Ministry of Health, Battelle National Biodefense institute... and more but those are the top ones.

I am not sure I'll be back in time to call in tomorrow, depends on flight, but I am going to try and make sure I can call in on Sunday.

Cheers!

#8077
the FBI, the U.S. Department of Defense and Booz Allen Hamilton, major global producers of medication for diabetics,
#8078
grandma making family dinner conversation stop so she can take a moment, compose herself, announce that china is building 21st century socialism and netanyahu is worse than hitler. "just to make sure everyone knows"
#8079
hung out with karphead today... big plans for readmarxeveryday developing... can't say anymore
#8080
who here loves rss feeds?!!