#2321

ialdabaoth posted:

tucked away in a forgotten directory, cruft of various filesystem backups, os reinstalls, and reshufflings, i found i have a 15 year old copy of planetes, so im watching that



i read the manga and i loved it a very long time ago. think i was in middle school lmfao. but never seen the anime

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https://ok.ru/video/250319604477

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Ill let you guys know if it's any good or funny
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#2327

ialdabaoth posted:

tucked away in a forgotten directory, cruft of various filesystem backups, os reinstalls, and reshufflings, i found i have a 15 year old copy of planetes, so im watching that



that part in the anime where they have ecoterrorists try to sabotage the spaceships was cool. if i remember well they dumbed it down towards the end to leave some room for some love story plot, cause you just gotta have those!
i thought it was the best political plot in an anime until i saw the second season of ghost in the shell sac and the secret service meddling ... felt very contemporary

#2328
I'm watching Heavy Metal.
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because im very stupid and would also like to have something to talk about with to my uncle, i watched the grand tour. its very bad! the jeremy clarkson man spent 100,000 pounds on a replica US gunboat to drive down the mekong like a fuckhead. theres a whole bit on the heroism of the invaders and what it mustve been like for them, then he gets back in the boat made to look like an army boat. amazing.

the only kind of interesting bit was seeing how much tonle sap has shrunk cos of three gorges but even thats ruined by the need for heavily scripted hilarious disasters for these visibly decaying alcoholics to get up to. do not watch unless you need to talk to my uncle collie
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this shows really really good, and also a classic kind of.. thinking about a re-watch. would recommend



edit that vid was fucked up in some way , replaced upload with just teh song. its cool that the op vid has been removed from youtube now.. if you want to watch ow w/e (you should its cool) guess its on dailymotion https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6bjoy8

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#2331
i just saw a geisha by kenji mizoguchi. its a very sad movie about the japanese sex workers who exists under this ancestral ritualized tradition that are 'geishas'. from the premises the protagonist turns towards becoming a geisha because of the economic shortcomings of her family and the abusive situation shes put in because of that. What is the most heartbreaking about geishas/geisha culture is that behind all that ritualized scenery, how everything cultivated by those women is made to pleasure the senses of the customers. From the very fancy clothings, learning how to play instruments, being a good host, even the corporal hexis is to be looked after, turning the women into literal dolls. Despite that heavily ritualized setting it is still a ruthless environment where a lot of emphasis is put on squeezing the most money out of the customer, and every facet of prostitution is brought up: guilt, mental breakdowns, sexual abuse. For a movie made in the 50s i think its incredibly feminist, althought most of mizoguchis work regarding the woman condition are in that vein. its also quite shocking when put next to the japanese new wave movies that would come out a decade later, where theres a crude rape scene in almost every movie. a scene that stuck in mind was in wakamatsu's serial rapist, where a workshop laborer rapes a woman who was painting an industrial area. after hearing her say something along of 'ah! it's beautiful!' he goes ballistic and rapes her for even saying a place where capitalist exploitation is at its highest could be considered beautiful. Its not cool but it were to them i guess, because of the transgressive symbolism attached to it. it reminds me of that gerald horne article where he brought up that sexual tendencies in hollywood mightve influenced by mobsters making friends in the cinema business and passed down 'lumpen sexual norms' through movies, thus promoting sexual assault and turning it into a trope
anyway i think a geisha was a great movie and somewhat an accurate psychological portrait of the damages of prostitution. its weird that decades later white feminism is trying to push into peoples head that sex work is actually cool and more than last resort to escape misery and death for women. like for 1 girl that makes 4 figures a months selling pictures of her feet theres thousands of women being abducted, sold and trafficked all across the globe to be abused in exchange of money
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devscoots posted:

because im very stupid and would also like to have something to talk about with to my uncle, i watched the grand tour. its very bad! the jeremy clarkson man spent 100,000 pounds on a replica US gunboat to drive down the mekong like a fuckhead. theres a whole bit on the heroism of the invaders and what it mustve been like for them, then he gets back in the boat made to look like an army boat. amazing.



stop me if im going too far here, but that is kind of messed up.

dizastar posted:

its also quite shocking when put next to the japanese new wave movies that would come out a decade later, where theres a crude rape scene in almost every movie. a scene that stuck in mind was in wakamatsu's serial rapist, where a workshop laborer rapes a woman who was painting an industrial area. after hearing her say something along of 'ah! it's beautiful!' he goes ballistic and rapes her for even saying a place where capitalist exploitation is at its highest could be considered beautiful.



stop me if im going too far here, but that is kind of messed up.

but i dont want to focus on that exclusively. kenji mizoguchi is really interesting, id like to see this movie based on your description and it sounds like he delivered a reasonably sincere and unvarnished portrait of what has been a captive existence for many women. the themes resonate strongly with the only movie of his that ive seen, women of the night, which is a didactic and moralizing but i would argue empathetic and human portrayal of the lives of prostituted women in japan. and honestly, i prefer the didactic and moralizing melodrama stuff to "ooh, guys, look at me, im being transgressive, ooh look how transgressive im being guys, im a japanese new wave cinema guy trivializing labor struggles as rape scenes, im alex jodorowsky saying i raped an actress while filming el topo", and i prefer the dour old-socialist "prostitution is a capitalist evil" tendency to... idk... people creating and inhabiting a fantasy universe where being a prostitute is really awesome and tame and wildly beloved by its many ultra-willing participants.

if you like kenji mizoguchi, do you like other japanese movies of the era?

#2333
I havn't seen any Kenji Mizoguchi, but I'm a big fan of Mikio Naruse's melodramas.
#2334

realsubtle posted:

if you like kenji mizoguchi, do you like other japanese movies of the era?



i like yasujiro ozu's movies a lot. the main thematic in most of his films is the clash between the old traditional society and a new set of norms brought in by western influence. its all seen through a very melancholic eye, although some funny quirks are introduced here and there. tales of arranged marriage are punctuated with little jokes about cultural hegemony of rock music replacing folkloric musical instruments like the koto and so on. yet no matter the outcome in this dichotomy between old & new theres always a bleak outcome, as both mean submission for the characters involved in that story. i dont like using the 'tradition vs cultural homogeneization due to western hegemony' talk because it sounds very reductive but ozu makes a great synthesis of this contradiction because the outcome is that oppressive norms reproduce themselves no matter the degree of cultural evolution a society might experience. I'm mostly talking about his postwar movies up until his death, his pre war movie (which have been for most re-made by himself to fit that problematic anyway) were kind of a bore to me. And despite all the film critics over interpretation of those filmmakers and their movies i think its very accessible and easy to grasp for anyone. both mizoguchi and ozu made very popular movies that are ideologically very solid. on another register, same goes for italian neorealism with visconti's neorealist period like la terra trema, which is an absolute masterpiece
as for mikio naruse i dont know, i dont really like melodramas much and from what i remember from the one or two movies ive seen they were just good at putting me to sleep
a japanese movie i like from the new wave is funeral parade of roses, which is an lgbt rewriting of oedipus rex. Also the warped ones and black sun by koreyoshi kurahara, that are part of the sun tribe movement, which depict postwar japanese youth (ranging from lumpen to son of wealthy industrial) and their vacuous, parasitic lifes... theyre well crafted films but you wont find any particular substance. i just found them relatable when i was 17

#2335
i watched a film for the first time in a long time, it was the spanish one where the lift of food goes down.
#2336
i'm going to watch the good Godzilla of 1954, then the other good Godzilla, Shin Godzilla. Then I'm going to watch The Ninth Configuration, and then Possession starring Sam Neill.
#2337
roar, cannibal holocaust, babe: pig in the city (there's something very unsettling about it), salo, it's fine! everything is fine, and as the lsd wears off, human centipede 3 (final sequence)
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cars posted:

i'm going to watch the good Godzilla of 1954, then the other good Godzilla, Shin Godzilla. Then I'm going to watch The Ninth Configuration, and then Possession starring Sam Neill.


I watched In the Mouth of Madness, starring Sam Neill.

#2340
This is how I ask people about settlers.
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#2344
Settlers: The Motion Picture 400 years in the making.
#2345
saw 'in the heat of the sun' by jiang wen; its a nice movie about teenagers being teenagers during the cultural revolution
#2346
great canadian baking show season 3 finale spoilers




She won. I've already emailed the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation the names of the other contestants
#2347
that's cool but i'd be worried that it would collapse when i tried to eat it
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#2349
polyester by john waters
#2350
i'm watching amerikkka burn to the ground and i am fucking ecstatic