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daddyholes posted:

wow, looks like a tower that is taller than everything around it, like the kind a modern army might use to defend something nearby from insurgent enemies on foot.



^ this is going to be the next "gwap says lock up this elian rogers weirdo before he kills someone" post, so bookmark it. "Yw" -daddyholes

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c_man posted:

deadken posted:

look at what the saudis did to mecca lol
http://evaser.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mecca-2012-1433-with-the-world-muslim-clock.jpg

http://zybourne.heroku.com/images/prologue/CHRONOSPIRE%20Final_ferrinnus.jpg



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Johnny did nothing wrong
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daddyholes posted:

wow, looks like a tower that is taller than everything around it, like the kind a modern army might use to defend something nearby from insurgent enemies on foot.



this is an Excellent idea. after all the only saudi insurgents with any experience in destroying extremely large buildings didn't survive their mission

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120 storeys of luxury shopping malls and million dollar apartments, each with top-of-the-line kitchen utilities, on-call concierge service, eight bedrooms, swimming pool and jacuzzi, and sixteen 203mm howitzer cannon with recoil-ease soundless firing system so you can lie back and relax while the artillery surrounding your home fire from 700m in the air (?) at some insurgents (?) who are, uh, not in mecca but coming towards it (?), on foot or in toyotas or something, and need to be fired at from a distance, because as the history of the 20th century has shown when there are islamist attacks in mecca that's usually how they do it, and we lost all our helicopters and so on
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meanwhile in iraq
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looks ripe for some Epic photoshops. get on it, goons
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I AM BOURGEOIS
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i thought it was a photoshope
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TheIneff posted:

meanwhile in iraq
http://i.ur.com/Wp8WNDp.jpg



now THATS what i call a real SuShi sandwich!

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the curvature of the paper doesnt match the alignment of the lettering on the sushi sign~~
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stegosaurus posted:

the clock is my favorite thing. what the fuck is that doing there.



England needs to display its technological and industrial might to the world, of course

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yeah we get it sam you dont know why armies want the high ground. after all war is now conducted via twitter and the cloud.
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i mean a super tall hotel tower in the center of a ring of towers owned by the government!! Everyone knows the military does not use hotel buildings in urban combat, its just not cricket. the idea that someone would set up an observation post if there is an ice machine on the same floor, fuckin impossible.
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*wind whips around deadken on the roof* From my extensive work on the call of duty series i can tell you, this point is below passing grade for individually headshotting enemies spawning directly out of the Kaaba. Analysis complete, this building is secure.
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ben al kabeer
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wait so are skyscrapers of tactical value? i unironically don't understand how.
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c_man posted:

wait so are skyscrapers of tactical value? i unironically don't understand how.



then u should not speak

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i forgot, the purpose of a forum is to berate people who haven't read the same 9001 books that you have.
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its pretty fuckin simple imo, just ask yourself, if you were running a street war in this city, focused around this exact area, would you want to take and hold that position or better yet, have it ready made for you? or would you think, nah thats just a bunch of jacuzzis right next to the objective, with dominating unmatched 360 eyes on the entire area and about a dozen walls around it, we can let the other guys have that? i realize the tactical importance of this structure would depend on science fiction technologies like magnifying lenses and long-distance electronic communications, things that are still decades away at best but i think they might be planning ahead. not to mention the value in peacetime of any potential problem looking up and seeing a giant fucking tower looking down, and also the tower makes money.
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i guess i would have thought that a government with counterinsurgency in mind would have a better way of gathering visual information on an area that they have a lot of control over than just a skyscraper. like, actual cameras in places. i think its sort of bizarre to suggest that the most effective way for someone to know what's going on in a lot of places at once in tyool 2014 is to sit with a telescope in a really high tower.
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especially in an urban environment with lots of natural cover?
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this is along the same lines as sam saying that in the past there has never been some sort of actual battle for mecca (lol) so obviously eyes on the surrounding area for advancing forces are useless because the world is eternal and nothing ever changes. its pretty good to have cameras and helicopters, and its also good to have a giant fuckin tower where you can go up there with just a telescope and a radio and tell all your people what is going on. and its not like they are going to take all the money they make and throw it in a big fire because the building has another use too.
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if playing tom clancy's ghost recon (2001, pc) taught me anything, it's that it's hard to see who is shooting at you when the building they are in has hundreds of windows
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the wahhabists have a 200 year old tradition of wiping out historical sites at mecca, ever since the first saudi state, so if only they'd been into building lavish hotels way back then they'd have had to continually destroy and rebuild them in an endless etch-a-sketch cycle of bad architecture and hilton profits.
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it is pretty hard to see someone through a reflective window even a few stories up, good point panopticon, although on the other hand i dont think they are going to send a bunch of badass four armed video game babes up there with ray guns probably.
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are there advantages beyond "you can see far, if you need to use telescopes for some reason"? im not saying a building can't be repurposed for military use but are really really tall buildings of some special significance to the counter-insurgency mindset?
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i would think of greater significance would be things like the way the streets and walkways are laid out, etc
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palafox posted:

the wahhabists have a 200 year old tradition of wiping out historical sites at mecca, ever since the first saudi state, so if only they'd been into building lavish hotels way back then they'd have had to continually destroy and rebuild them in an endless etch-a-sketch cycle of bad architecture and hilton profits.



i got to have a Meaningful Moment a couple days ago when someone from new york city was qqing about the 18th century ottoman fort that got knocked over and how "they" dont respect history, and i asked them if they thought it might divide opinion in the US if a town with a large black population leased land to a company and the company decided to knock over a 12 foot tall statue of Confederate General John Frederick Slaveholder that had been maintained "for history's sake". they didnt get it and i both died and went to hell for the epic loss.

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like how all of the us college campuses built after like 1960 have lots of narrow outdoor stairways with corners in them
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c_man posted:

i would think of greater significance would be things like the way the streets and walkways are laid out, etc



thats pretty important too yes. theres that israeli tactic for instance of making their own roads and walkways by blowing holes through blocks of palestinian houses in a straight line towards their goal. are we disagreeing though, because i dont think we are.

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i read that thing about the deleuzian IDF too lol. my only thing is that i dont see why "big, really tall" is significant to counter-insurgency urban design beyond "combos with telescope". if that's it then fine i guess.
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im not really agreeing with dead ken if thats what you mean
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low tech visibility is a Thing, holding a position is a Thing, those two together is a Thing but yeah i dont think we are really at odds.
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daddyholes posted:

the world is eternal and nothing ever changes



this but unironically

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c_man posted:

i forgot, the purpose of a forum is to berate people who haven't read the same 9001 books that you have.



im wasnt berating you you whiny little cunt but i will now. i said go read maybe a single book, just one, about the topic of discussion if u r curious. ppl here are literally too ignorant to have conversations with about most subjects that come up, it sbad. please dont be another loudmouth idiot. go read about the thing. u seem like a p normal brained person so i have faith in u

#79
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if you fill the building with enough motherfucking argon the fish doesnt know what the fuck
#80
Dont Mess With Sucess
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You are all overlooking the buildings importance as symbolism for man's hard penis.