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fringus whats a good intro to all this real imaginary and symbolic stuff aside from just sleeping and dreaming a lot after david lynch movies (i recommend against this)
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Mike Nelson here.
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christ in a cracker i will clobber you
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Kurdt
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Themselves posted:

fringus whats a good intro to all this real imaginary and symbolic stuff aside from just sleeping and dreaming a lot after david lynch movies

Mein Kampf

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damnit i did it again huh
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also its christ on a cracker you cracker, christ
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Themselves posted:

fringus whats a good intro to all this real imaginary and symbolic stuff aside from just sleeping and dreaming a lot after david lynch movies (i recommend against this)



nosubject.com

http://www.amazon.com/Looking-Awry-Introduction-Jacques-through/dp/026274015X

http://www.lacan.com/essays/?p=82

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getfiscal posted:

chesterton seems to argue that religion is true because you need a little bit of fairy tales in your life which, to be fair, is an argument that convinces many billions of people.



This is a gross slander against Chesterton, actually.

Edit: But the whole issue of Chesterton is a distraction from The_Boourns_Identity's apologetics for Zionism and pogroms in the name of "neighborly love" so...

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Mike Nelson here.
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i've only read like half of orthodoxy because joel recommended it to me sorry
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The real issue is that Bourne Idenity is trafficking antinomian heresy.
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YUNG JIRO AKA SHOWA STUNNA AKA
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Themselves posted:

also its christ on a cracker you cracker, christ



not to all the abuelas in south texas it's not

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Mike Nelson here.
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i'm sorry for suggesting i don't believe in, let alone fear, god in this thread, which should be nonsense on it's face, since i obviously believe in, and yes fear, god.
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Mike Nelson here.
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Themselves posted:

fringus whats a good intro to all this real imaginary and symbolic stuff aside from just sleeping and dreaming a lot after david lynch movies (i recommend against this)

i'm a charlatan and don't know much about this but papa bear's "how to read lacan" is short and sweet. there are dozens of recent intros to lacan now though. you should also become fluent in french, because, i mean really, let's be civilized.

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Note that in the Zizek video Bourne Identity linked to, after saying a little earlier that the Neighbor is primarily a Thing, he declares around 6:25 that 'we need to learn to ignore each other', citing Sloterdijk (!)as an authority that agrees with him. His 'christian' and 'revolutionary' ethic of love separated from the law, within its own exposition, not that of his enemies, turns into its opposite, a carte-blanche for callousness and misanthropy.

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yeah, zizek is appealing to posturing left-lifetsylist misanthropes who want to feel good about doing absolutely nothing because his writing is a gigantic obfuscatory project to give license to that exact attitude. he has outright stated in several places that there is nothing that can be done, don't do anything, feel ok about it, and he was a huge supporter of the "no platform" attitude that contributed to the utter neutralization of occupy, elevating aimless cathartic acting out which accomplishes nothing into a virtue
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i just saw this on my twitter feed. something to think about.

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The_Boourns_Identity posted:

communism



its a utopian pre-marxist socialism that zizek's followers try to assert, but it ends up being the left flank of petite bourgeois fascism (chesterton, heidegger, the jurist Carl Schmitt, and in the end Goebbels & his modern anticommunist children)

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we already established that Fascism is good and everybody likes it tho
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the one thing i credit zizek for is getting me interested enough in philosophy and marxism to realize what a fraud he is, thank you zizek.
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shriekingviolet posted:

yeah, zizek is appealing to posturing left-lifetsylist misanthropes who want to feel good about doing absolutely nothing because his writing is a gigantic obfuscatory project to give license to that exact attitude. he has outright stated in several places that there is nothing that can be done, don't do anything, feel ok about it, and he was a huge supporter of the "no platform" attitude that contributed to the utter neutralization of occupy, elevating aimless cathartic acting out which accomplishes nothing into a virtue



the end of the parallax view is literally praising bartleby's "i'd prefer not to" as a platform of inaction for the Left.

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his toilet analogy was the highlight of old egs
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The_Boourns_Identity posted:

are you so far down the rabbit hole that you can't read irony?


irony isnt real

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aerdil posted:

shriekingviolet posted:

yeah, zizek is appealing to posturing left-lifetsylist misanthropes who want to feel good about doing absolutely nothing because his writing is a gigantic obfuscatory project to give license to that exact attitude. he has outright stated in several places that there is nothing that can be done, don't do anything, feel ok about it, and he was a huge supporter of the "no platform" attitude that contributed to the utter neutralization of occupy, elevating aimless cathartic acting out which accomplishes nothing into a virtue



the end of the parallax view is literally praising bartleby's "i'd prefer not to" as a platform of inaction for the Left.


my favorite thing is when a zizek follower tries to handwave away criticism by claiming it is a shallow misrepresentation, you have to actually read his books etc. this is always a bluff, zizek followers don't know how to read, if they did they'd notice you quoting his bullshit verbatim

i'll never get those precious hours back ;_;

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c_man posted:

The_Boourns_Identity posted:

are you so far down the rabbit hole that you can't read irony?


irony isnt real


their posts indicate a failure to understand that for irony to exist you need an established context, and when the only established context that's been given to us is "stupid shit" you can't subvert it with even more of the exact same stupid shit

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Kurdt
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the dusty balls of post-lacanian freudo-marxism
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Marxsplainer
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aerdil posted:

the one thing i credit zizek for is getting me interested enough in philosophy and marxism to realize what a fraud he is, thank you zizek.



yeah zizek is babby's first critical theory but we have to destroy our first sensei to become badass intellectual kung fu villans and achieve our True Power and cut off the cossack's balls

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Skylark posted:

tpaine posted:
seinfeld, no no no no no cat, and a let's play satire? maybe the best thread ever?


I saw the seinfeld video in the op and was going to post "whats next, a shrek joke" and i saw a shrek joke embedded a few posts later.


its a shrek joke from like 2009. before e there were shrek jokes .

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hi
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aerdil posted:

the one thing i credit zizek for is getting me interested enough in philosophy and marxism to realize what a fraud he is, thank you zizek.

same except with chomsky and anti-imperialism.

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i took a look at what is to be undone at my community college library today and didnt like it very much. the 1970's must have been pretty shitty.

the chomsky and zinn quotes on the back were too predictable and made me a little bit sad