Ironicwarcriminal posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

the whole divorce of "sex" from "everything else i do with a human being i happen to have sex with" is really super artificial tho

yeah but removing your feces from your kitchen is artificial too

Uhh ?

Crow posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

the whole divorce of "sex" from "everything else i do with a human being i happen to have sex with" is really super artificial tho

yeah but removing your feces from your kitchen is artificial too



Uhh ?

Thanks to the material conditions of modern society then of course our practices are going to be more 'artificial' than old ways of doing things like shitting in a room you spend a lot of time, or having a holistic relationship with a sexual partner rooted in some sort of value/cultural/ritual tradition.

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

getfiscal posted:

karphead posted:

did he force you to write "virgin mary" on a piece of paper and stomp on it?

it was a she... casual sexism noted and put into the logs.

speaking of 'it was a she' so was the girl, "Denise" in that article i posted, i just thought i'd mix it up to attract outrage and expose Hypocrisy but my hearts just not in it

yaeh when I read it i noticed:
He says his use of a prostitute meant he could develop in ways she otherwise may not have.

getting sloppy iwc

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

That seems fair enough to me, When Dennis saw the prostitute and had sex he got more confidence (having sex can do that) and it has enabled a fuller, richer life. The only difference is that because of a severe disability the chances of having a normal, social sexual relationship are very limited.

Denying people this opportunity seems pretty harsh.

Yeah but as the Swedish official explained in the article I posted earlier, prostitutes are mostly damaged, attention seeking junkies. I don't see how sleeping with one of them would enable someone to have a richer fuller life.

MadMedico posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

That seems fair enough to me, When Dennis saw the prostitute and had sex he got more confidence (having sex can do that) and it has enabled a fuller, richer life. The only difference is that because of a severe disability the chances of having a normal, social sexual relationship are very limited.

Denying people this opportunity seems pretty harsh.

Yeah but as the Swedish official explained in the article I posted earlier, prostitutes are mostly damaged, attention seeking junkies. I don't see how sleeping with one of them would enable someone to have a richer fuller life.

what

MadMedico posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

That seems fair enough to me, When Dennis saw the prostitute and had sex he got more confidence (having sex can do that) and it has enabled a fuller, richer life. The only difference is that because of a severe disability the chances of having a normal, social sexual relationship are very limited.

Denying people this opportunity seems pretty harsh.

Yeah but as the Swedish official explained in the article I posted earlier, prostitutes are mostly damaged, attention seeking junkies. I don't see how sleeping with one of them would enable someone to have a richer fuller life.

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-27/call-to-legalise-sex-workers-for-people-with-disability/3915538

Disability rights advocates are divided over a push in the South Australian Parliament to bring about the legal use of sex workers by people with a disability.

Kelly Vincent, who was elected on a platform of rights for people with disabilities, launched her campaign on Tuesday to support the legal push, saying she feels it would benefit many who are disabled.

Some advocates say it would allow disabled people to get rid of sexual frustration and achieve some happiness, but others say the campaign risks stigmatising those who it is trying to help.

Ms Vincent says if a private member's bill introduced by Labor MP Steph Key is passed in about a month, sex workers with specific training could provide a safe and positive environment for people with a disability to experience intimacy.

If successful, she would then push for a policy to allow people with a disability to use their government funding to pay for sex workers.

"For those people who are feeling frustrated and alienated and alone and sad because they can't access this experience, and for those people for whom the services of a sex worker could make a genuine huge, positive difference to their lives, in a private, intimate manner, then I don't see why that can't be allowed," Ms Vincent said.

A valued experience

Dennis Beckwith, who grew up in Sydney's south-west with cerebral palsy, won a bronze medal at the Sydney Paralympics and now works with Disabilities Australia.

He says his use of a prostitute meant he could develop in ways she otherwise may not have.

"I have a disability and my first sexual experience was with a sex worker, and I really value that experience because it gave me confidence to then pursue other relationships, so sex work has an educative function," he said.

"I was 16, curious, I'd been through able-bodied school.

It gave me confidence to then pursue other relationships, so sex work has an educative function.

"I approached my father - who's quite an open-minded man - and saw it as a need for me for me. So he actually helped me scope out a sex worker."

That seems fair enough to me, When Dennis saw the prostitute and had sex he got more confidence (having sex can do that) and it has enabled a fuller, richer life. The only difference is that because of a severe disability the chances of having a normal, social sexual relationship are very limited.

Denying people this opportunity seems pretty harsh.

im sth australaen and yesterday i got a intellectualy diasbled guy thrown in our high securty prison on account of not being able to fined supported accomedation for him. lol good thing well be able to get him laid

corey posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-27/call-to-legalise-sex-workers-for-people-with-disability/3915538

Disability rights advocates are divided over a push in the South Australian Parliament to bring about the legal use of sex workers by people with a disability.

Kelly Vincent, who was elected on a platform of rights for people with disabilities, launched her campaign on Tuesday to support the legal push, saying she feels it would benefit many who are disabled.

Some advocates say it would allow disabled people to get rid of sexual frustration and achieve some happiness, but others say the campaign risks stigmatising those who it is trying to help.

Ms Vincent says if a private member's bill introduced by Labor MP Steph Key is passed in about a month, sex workers with specific training could provide a safe and positive environment for people with a disability to experience intimacy.

If successful, she would then push for a policy to allow people with a disability to use their government funding to pay for sex workers.

"For those people who are feeling frustrated and alienated and alone and sad because they can't access this experience, and for those people for whom the services of a sex worker could make a genuine huge, positive difference to their lives, in a private, intimate manner, then I don't see why that can't be allowed," Ms Vincent said.

A valued experience

Dennis Beckwith, who grew up in Sydney's south-west with cerebral palsy, won a bronze medal at the Sydney Paralympics and now works with Disabilities Australia.

He says his use of a prostitute meant he could develop in ways she otherwise may not have.

"I have a disability and my first sexual experience was with a sex worker, and I really value that experience because it gave me confidence to then pursue other relationships, so sex work has an educative function," he said.

"I was 16, curious, I'd been through able-bodied school.

It gave me confidence to then pursue other relationships, so sex work has an educative function.

"I approached my father - who's quite an open-minded man - and saw it as a need for me for me. So he actually helped me scope out a sex worker."



That seems fair enough to me, When Dennis saw the prostitute and had sex he got more confidence (having sex can do that) and it has enabled a fuller, richer life. The only difference is that because of a severe disability the chances of having a normal, social sexual relationship are very limited.

Denying people this opportunity seems pretty harsh.


im sth australaen and yesterday i got a intellectualy diasbled guy thrown in our high securty prison on account of not being able to fined supported accomedation for him. lol good thing well be able to get him laid

can u elaborate?

tpaine posted:

why would you put your feces in your kitchen in the first place? i think this is something we need to discuss, iwc

I think masaokis would be the first person we should ask about that

littlegreenpills posted:

MadMedico posted:

"Having sex is not a human right," he says quietly.

e: it's been dawning on me throughout today, by degrees, how liberating and transgressive that phrase really is. don't you get it? all the personal diminishment that these people might feel for not having sex, the very need for "sex" itself can disappear, because it was all artificial in the first place

youre married my nigga

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

corey posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-27/call-to-legalise-sex-workers-for-people-with-disability/3915538

Disability rights advocates are divided over a push in the South Australian Parliament to bring about the legal use of sex workers by people with a disability.

Kelly Vincent, who was elected on a platform of rights for people with disabilities, launched her campaign on Tuesday to support the legal push, saying she feels it would benefit many who are disabled.

Some advocates say it would allow disabled people to get rid of sexual frustration and achieve some happiness, but others say the campaign risks stigmatising those who it is trying to help.

Ms Vincent says if a private member's bill introduced by Labor MP Steph Key is passed in about a month, sex workers with specific training could provide a safe and positive environment for people with a disability to experience intimacy.

If successful, she would then push for a policy to allow people with a disability to use their government funding to pay for sex workers.

"For those people who are feeling frustrated and alienated and alone and sad because they can't access this experience, and for those people for whom the services of a sex worker could make a genuine huge, positive difference to their lives, in a private, intimate manner, then I don't see why that can't be allowed," Ms Vincent said.

A valued experience

Dennis Beckwith, who grew up in Sydney's south-west with cerebral palsy, won a bronze medal at the Sydney Paralympics and now works with Disabilities Australia.

He says his use of a prostitute meant he could develop in ways she otherwise may not have.

"I have a disability and my first sexual experience was with a sex worker, and I really value that experience because it gave me confidence to then pursue other relationships, so sex work has an educative function," he said.

"I was 16, curious, I'd been through able-bodied school.

It gave me confidence to then pursue other relationships, so sex work has an educative function.

"I approached my father - who's quite an open-minded man - and saw it as a need for me for me. So he actually helped me scope out a sex worker."



That seems fair enough to me, When Dennis saw the prostitute and had sex he got more confidence (having sex can do that) and it has enabled a fuller, richer life. The only difference is that because of a severe disability the chances of having a normal, social sexual relationship are very limited.

Denying people this opportunity seems pretty harsh.


im sth australaen and yesterday i got a intellectualy diasbled guy thrown in our high securty prison on account of not being able to fined supported accomedation for him. lol good thing well be able to get him laid

can u elaborate?

not enuff suported emergency acoomedation for teh disabled. overcrowding in remand centre. ppl who cant get bail get to share a cell w john bunting