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Yeah Boors can you please keep your theological musings to this thread only so we can have actual discussions in the others thanks
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roseweird posted:

hi boourns, i actually thought about this a bit and my perspective is this: christianity and communism are the most powerful ideologies i have been exposed to, and the most morally and intellectually coherent and stimulating. but one is uncompromisingly pacifist and ascetic while the other demands commitment to violent revolution. both are direct emotional expressions of an urgent desire to help humanity, which have some superficial similarities, but ideologically they are still incompatible. christianity is based in ideal love, which has cosmic power to overcome evil, and which demands total priority even to the point of submitting to unjustified violence against oneself. communism is motivated by the love of humanity but does not idealize it, nor ascribe it powers beyond what can be observed. beyond that, communism genuinely demands atheism!

sometimes, by writing enough words and thinking about them a lot you can blur simple distinctions, and you have been writing a lot of words. communism is atheist. for a lot of people here that means they are atheists. i can't speak to how others reconcile pacifist religion with revolutionary ideology, because i can't do it msyelf. anyway the point i am trying to make here is that there is a subtler discussion to be had on this subject than one where you are trying to convince communists that christianity is revolutionary.




yeah mang

it's right here https://www.marxists.org/archive/bukharin/works/1920/abc/11.htm

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did he just snidely drop a link, i don't know if that's a Good Flame (a boourns if you will) or just a Bad Post

perhaps both?
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The_Boourns_Identity posted:

I wasn't saying that Dr. King was an example of slave morality, I was saying that from a Nietzchean perspective it would be considered such. King's praxis was rooted in his Christian ethics, which Nietzsche specifically deemed to be a slave morality.



ok, i get that your gimmick is "Chesteron by way of Zizek" but could you at least not be so willfully obtuse

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I hate to even ask, tbi, but what do you think is up with socialist countries and movememnts that, yknow, weren't and aren't christian at all?
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is this problematic?
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this is just turning sadistic at this point
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