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"I have strange limits. I am very – OK, another detail, fuck it. I was never able to do – even if a woman wanted it – annal sex." Annal sex? "Ah, anal sex. You know why not? Because I couldn't convince myself that she really likes it. I always had this suspicion, what if she only pretends, to make herself more attractive to me? It's the same thing for fellatio; I was never able to finish into the woman's mouth, because again, my idea is, this is not exactly the most tasteful fluid. What if she's only pretending?"
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he sounds like an attentive and considerate lover, like all revolutionaries must be
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absolutetly, zach galofannykiss had already made a similar point by pointing out many theorists' short comings on the matter when he rethorically asked “What was it Noam Chomsky said about eating pussy?" (the unsaid answer being a shaming and accusatory "nothing")
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cleanhands posted:

he sounds like an attentive and considerate lover, like all revolutionaries must be



You can’t be a good lover if you’re scared of your own shadow

The sentiment Zizek expresses there is, in fact, a roundabout form of slut-shaming

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noam chomsky is a senile old man who should be put in a nice retirement home.
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noam chomsky is really cool, as is democratic reformist leftism

vote syriza
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left-libertarianism makes no sense.
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Jerthebear posted:

left-libertarianism makes no sense.

wow my god really? *tears down chomsky posters, moves on with life due to powerful argument*

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clever, but I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. didn't think many people were subscribers to chomsky's political ideologies, other than bros who watch political documentaries on netflix.
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getfiscal posted:

Jerthebear posted:
left-libertarianism makes no sense.
wow my god really? *tears down chomsky posters, moves on with life due to powerful argument*



Nah he’s got a good point, left-libertarianism is pretty dumb. Liberty is all about freedom and achieving freedom means being able to exploit or lord power over others to get what you want. I don’t know how that’s supposed to be compatible with egalitarianism.

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Jerthebear posted:

clever, but I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. didn't think many people were subscribers to chomsky's political ideologies, other than bros who watch political documentaries on netflix.

umm i watch political documentaries on netflix? also i'm a liberal, so of course i like chomsky?

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did you guys know beer saved the world?
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heh liberals watching netflix hehe *watches zizek on youtube*
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roight.
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is the cynical historical narrative in ancient aliens, that humanity is so locked into a brutish perpetual cycle of mere survival that any radical developmental break must be a gift from a demi-god alien race, not capitalist (anti-hegelian) ideology at its purest?
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netflix is cheaper than buying box sets of the gilmore girls.
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babyfinland posted:

is the cynical historical narrative in ancient aliens, that humanity is so locked into a brutish perpetual cycle of mere survival that any radical developmental break must be a gift from a demi-god alien race, not capitalist (anti-hegelian) ideology at its purest?



this but with God

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The narrative of ancient aliens is that a long time ago, as portrayed in Sumerian myth, a bunch of aliens came to earth to mine gold to replentish the gold deficiency in their planets atmosphere. After various failed experiments they successfully created man in a laboratory to be their slave laborers in the gold mines. They left but still continue to intervene in human history and provide humans with technology. Also every single miracle-type event or unexplainable phenomenon in every holy book of every religion is actually talking about one of mankinds encounters with aliens.

THat is more or less the actual theory behind ancient aliens.
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Sounds more like it's trying to scientifize the concept of God for nerds who don't Believe
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Sort of. It's really bizarre. They never say, 'but clearly this religious idea is bullshit,' as you might expect pro-alien existence people to do. They just sort of change it to apply to something aliens might have done, so you're more or less right I suppose.
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

babyfinland posted:

is the cynical historical narrative in ancient aliens, that humanity is so locked into a brutish perpetual cycle of mere survival that any radical developmental break must be a gift from a demi-god alien race, not capitalist (anti-hegelian) ideology at its purest?

this but with God



the aliens didnt create man and the world though, man happily reproduces himself as in liberal and socialist theory, but doesnt progress, because he doesnt contain his own negation. he is man-as-such with no remainder

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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

The narrative of ancient aliens is that a long time ago, as portrayed in Sumerian myth, a bunch of aliens came to earth to mine gold to replentish the gold deficiency in their planets atmosphere. After various failed experiments they successfully created man in a laboratory to be their slave laborers in the gold mines. They left but still continue to intervene in human history and provide humans with technology. Also every single miracle-type event or unexplainable phenomenon in every holy book of every religion is actually talking about one of mankinds encounters with aliens.

THat is more or less the actual theory behind ancient aliens.



oh they did create man? weird

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I haven't seen it but i'm guessing their target demographic overlaps with Alex Jones listeners and all those people who talk about the Illuminati on youtube.

They have a really weird ideology those guys
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

They have a really weird ideology those guys



thats true of any and all americans. ftw.

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right. keep talking shit guys while your reptilian president leads an Illuminati crusade against you, consolidating the power firmly in the hands of the Zionist reptile overlords. your wit and sarcasm won't save you then you fools.
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babyfinland posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
They have a really weird ideology those guys


thats true of any and all americans. ftw.



That’s true but their beliefs are just so paranoid and unstructured, it’s not even built on something as solid as fundamentalist religion or racism.

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9/11 probably was an inside job tho
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The thing is that whether or not it was done by the U.S. or Saudi Arabian interests (aka Israel), it doesn't really matter
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That’s my view, and I’ve annoyed a few truthers with it by saying “yeah you’re probably right but who cares? It’s irrelevant, don’t go chasing waterfalls”
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lol saying nietzsche didn't speak of politics is like saying Machiavelli didn't speak about politics because he didn't include bourgeois ethics in his prescriptions. also nietzsche going "crazy" is completely irrelevant and dismissing or modifying his work with that in mind is basically a way of dismissing radical thought as "crazy". see: Foucault (and again see him for more explicit politicizing of Nietzsche)
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I didn't dismiss his work on the grounds of him being batshit insane, which he obviously was, I said it was the best part about reading his work! It's all the things besides his insanity being so interesting that are the bad parts.
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some quality trolls in this thread though. Nietzsche historicist; nihilist; personal; "no inherent value or objective morality", funny stuff guys
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babyhueypnewton posted:

lol saying nietzsche didn't speak of politics is like saying Machiavelli didn't speak about politics because he didn't include bourgeois ethics in his prescriptions. also nietzsche going "crazy" is completely irrelevant and dismissing or modifying his work with that in mind is basically a way of dismissing radical thought as "crazy". see: Foucault (and again see him for more explicit politicizing of Nietzsche)



who are you talking to

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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

I didn't dismiss his work on the grounds of him being batshit insane, which he obviously was, I said it was the best part about reading his work! It's all the things besides his insanity being so interesting that are the bad parts.



hmm interesting stuff, I'm sure you have a well developed definition of "insanity" and have thought carefully about your opinions

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hhmhmmm.....
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babyhueypnewton posted:

EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

I didn't dismiss his work on the grounds of him being batshit insane, which he obviously was, I said it was the best part about reading his work! It's all the things besides his insanity being so interesting that are the bad parts.

hmm interesting stuff, I'm sure you have a well developed definition of "insanity" and have thought carefully about your opinions



syphillis counts dude

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babyfinland posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

lol saying nietzsche didn't speak of politics is like saying Machiavelli didn't speak about politics because he didn't include bourgeois ethics in his prescriptions. also nietzsche going "crazy" is completely irrelevant and dismissing or modifying his work with that in mind is basically a way of dismissing radical thought as "crazy". see: Foucault (and again see him for more explicit politicizing of Nietzsche)

who are you talking to



sorry got to the party late, pretty rare nietzsche comes up in lf though and even rarer that he isn't immediately dismissed by liberals for being "racist" and "misogynistic" and/or "crazy"

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I’m increasingly coming around to the view that madness is actually the achievement of a higher state of existence, a cosmic truth that is at one with the incomprehensibility of the universe
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

I’m increasingly coming around to the view that madness is actually the achievement of a higher state of existence, a cosmic truth that is at one with the incomprehensibility of the universe


historic late pass.