babyfinland posted:Cycloneboy posted:babyfinland posted:in my experience, normal healthy relationship does grant personal fulfillment
i mean fulfillment more like... meaning or purpose.
ya also coffee makers don't bake pizzas
Actual People actually believe that a healthy romantic relationship will grant them that kind of fulfillment. realizing that they don't can be done before you sabotage multiple perfectly good relationships because they don't.
Cycloneboy posted:babyfinland posted:Cycloneboy posted:babyfinland posted:in my experience, normal healthy relationship does grant personal fulfillment
i mean fulfillment more like... meaning or purpose.
ya also coffee makers don't bake pizzas
Actual People actually believe that a healthy romantic relationship will grant them that kind of fulfillment. realizing that they don't can be done before you sabotage multiple perfectly good relationships because they don't.
nice blame the victim logic here
babyfinland posted:Cycloneboy posted:babyfinland posted:Cycloneboy posted:babyfinland posted:in my experience, normal healthy relationship does grant personal fulfillment
i mean fulfillment more like... meaning or purpose.
ya also coffee makers don't bake pizzas
Actual People actually believe that a healthy romantic relationship will grant them that kind of fulfillment. realizing that they don't can be done before you sabotage multiple perfectly good relationships because they don't.
nice blame the victim logic here
that's not even a little blame the victim logic
Maybe cycloneboy is a troll and is actually a bit of a player. I hope so because otherwise it's kinda sad that you've given up hope so early in your life.
I guess now I put it like that it’s a shitty life lesson but w/evs, praise Allah for this joyously confusing rollercoaster of a planet I guess.
EmanuelaOrlandi posted:its really quite disturbing how every time some lf dude posts about his views on relationships with females in depth they always bring out something about being 'cold-hearted' or 'alpha' or w/e. even if it is in jest thats a really weird thing to have in the back of your mind w/r/t all your 'romantic' relationships with women yo.
i dont have romantic relationships, & its not because im cold-hearted or alpha or w/e i'm just really fuckin immature
EmanuelaOrlandi posted:its really quite disturbing how every time some lf dude posts about his views on relationships with females in depth they always bring out something about being 'cold-hearted' or 'alpha' or w/e. even if it is in jest thats a really weird thing to have in the back of your mind w/r/t all your 'romantic' relationships with women yo.
Cold-hearted was a bit of poetic licence for being distracted and absorbed in other things . I’m no alpha or lothario lol.
deadken posted:actually i p much agree w/ the cyclone embryo, asexuality exists + is perfectly legitimate + frankly i wish i could be like him
i hope asexuals exist and that they're doing something good with their time and good intentions because the rest of us are literally fucked, well i guess some of us are fucking.
pretty much all non rape&pillagy societies have venerated people who are able to live celibate lives. celibacy owns, our bonobo like pre-occupation with our own libidos is definitely holding us back as a species at this point in time.
Transient_Grace posted:at this point in time.
Impper posted:ken wat do u think of the fuck & destroy sticker. thats gonna be a sticker. plastered all over chicago in the most obnoxious spots i can find
jools posted:damn, cant anyone go five minutes without talking about fucking in this place
sex is intrinsic to the economy and society and social relations jools.
discussing politics without fucking is like talking of the ocean without mentioning water.
Love is a game.
This is the meaning of that breast-complex, that mammal-complex except that the orality in question has nothing to do with food, and that the whole stress is placed on this effect of mutilation.
In the fable I read, when I was a child, in these early forms of strip cartoon, the poor beggar at the restaurant door feasted himself on the smell of the roasting meat. On this occasion, the smell is the menu, that is to say, signifiers, since we are concerned with speech only. Well! There is this complication— and this is my fable—that the menu is written in Chinese, so the first step is to order a translation from the patronne. She translates—imperial pâté, spring rolls, etc. etc. It may well be, if it is the first time that you have come to a Chinese restaurant, that the translation does not tell you much more than the original, and in the end you say to the patronne—Recommend something. This means: You should know what I desire in all this.
But is so paradoxical a situation supposed, in the final resort, to end there? At this point, when you abdicate your choice to some divination of the patronne, whose importance you have exaggerated out of all proportion, would it not be more appropriate, if you felt like it, and if the opportunity presented itself, to tickle her tits a bit? For one goes to a Chinese restaurant not only to eat, but to eat in the dimensions of the exotic. If my fable means anything, it is in as much as alimentary desire has another meaning than alimentation. It is here the support and symbol of the sexual dimension, which is the only one to be rejected by the psyche. The drive in its relation to the part-object is subjacent here. "
aerdil posted:Jacques Lacan reminds us, that in sex, each individual is to a large extent on their own, if I can put it that way. Naturally, the others body has to be mediated, but at the end of the day, the pleasure will always be your pleasure. Sex separates, doesn’t unite. The fact that you are naked and pressing against the other is an image, an imaginary representation. What is real is that the pleasure takes you a long way, very far from the other. What is real is narcissistic, what binds is imaginary.. So there is no such thing as a sexual relationship, concludes Lacan. His proposition shocked people since at the time everybody was talking about nothing else but “sexual relationships”. If there is no sexual relationship in sexuality, love is what fills the absence of a sexual relationship. Lacan doesn’t say that love is a disguise for sexual relationships; he says that sexual relationships doen’t exist, that love is what comes to replace that non-relationship. This idea leads him to say that in love the other tries to approach “the being of the other”. In love the individual goes beyond himself, beyond the narcissistic. In sex, you are really in a relationship with yourself via the mediation of the other. The other helps you to discover the reality of pleasure. In love, on the contrary, the mediation of the other is enough in itself. Such is the nature of the amorous encounter: you go to take on the other, to make him or her exist with you as she or he is. It is a much more profound conception of love that the entirely banal view that love is no more than an imaginary canvas painted over the reality of sex.
aerdil posted:Jacques Lacan reminds us, that in sex, each individual is to a large extent on their own, if I can put it that way. Naturally, the others body has to be mediated, but at the end of the day, the pleasure will always be your pleasure. Sex separates, doesn’t unite. The fact that you are naked and pressing against the other is an image, an imaginary representation. What is real is that the pleasure takes you a long way, very far from the other. What is real is narcissistic, what binds is imaginary.. So there is no such thing as a sexual relationship, concludes Lacan. His proposition shocked people since at the time everybody was talking about nothing else but “sexual relationships”. If there is no sexual relationship in sexuality, love is what fills the absence of a sexual relationship. Lacan doesn’t say that love is a disguise for sexual relationships; he says that sexual relationships doen’t exist, that love is what comes to replace that non-relationship. This idea leads him to say that in love the other tries to approach “the being of the other”. In love the individual goes beyond himself, beyond the narcissistic. In sex, you are really in a relationship with yourself via the mediation of the other. The other helps you to discover the reality of pleasure. In love, on the contrary, the mediation of the other is enough in itself. Such is the nature of the amorous encounter: you go to take on the other, to make him or her exist with you as she or he is. It is a much more profound conception of love that the entirely banal view that love is no more than an imaginary canvas painted over the reality of sex.
ayn rand shit
of all that is entirely voluntary and willfully ideological