Chthonic_Goat_666 posted:i feel like there was a window of about 3 days where liberals were in shock and there was something of an opening for socialist agitation.
lucky for the liberals they powered up by announcing that a celebrity chavista once threw a famous liberal into an actual garbage can
to my social media vantage point at least, liberals were gobsmacked and the ideology machine seemed to be staggered. now it's back on full blast poisoning wells, priming, and memetically inoculating them against good politics
2. wear safety pins
3. stop after 3 days
4. slate suggests you resist via donating to planned parenthood in paul ryans name probably
those who are drifting to the left now will do so because of material conditions in their own lives combined with severe disillusionment across the entire history of the recent election and outgoing administration and they're already represented by the drastic drop of democratic over republican voters in an election where, despite slightly higher voter turnout, both major parties had a worse turnout overall, while minor parties had their best showing since ross perot, a pathetic high water mark but one that likely only die-hard pro-clinton democrats would have missed predicting. again, great news for the left.
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:as a misanthrope and a socialist i believe you have to bribe people to be good. the democrats by virtue of their complete corporate sellout have lost this ability. "vote for me because i'm not racist" doesn't have the same motive power as "vote for me and i'll give you free healthcare"
especially true since they have now thoroughly lost states like north carolina that the democrats held in some major way since before the civil war straight up until the 2010s based solely on handing out goodies and patronage and bribing everyone in sight, while the urban centers in those states continue to swell with people who might have voted for the democrats if they were still in a position to hand out bribes but instead see the current democratic party as despicable, weak and useless cretins
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:i believe you have to bribe people to be good
give me your wallet
cars posted:... for you.
this part is *in muffled Tom Hardy voice* Sorry i forgot.
cars posted:see the current democratic party as despicable, weak and useless cretins
this is my godforsaken point and it is because of /pol/, or at least the wider ideology they are both a representative and a cause of. unless you see a fundamental divorce between @KawaiiHeydrich1488 and your uncle sharing photoshopped Craigslist ads for paid protestors
littlegreenpills posted:better that the DSA hoover them up than they attempt to stick with the democrats surely
in what concrete aspect is the DSA not a left wing branch of the Dems? I don't see how entryism is going to be effective here.
littlegreenpills posted:cars posted:see the current democratic party as despicable, weak and useless cretins
this is my godforsaken point and it is because of /pol/, or at least the wider ideology they are both a representative and a cause of. unless you see a fundamental divorce between @KawaiiHeydrich1488 and your uncle sharing photoshopped Craigslist ads for paid protestors
/pol/ are a bunch of sub-sub-goons who thought donald trump was going to release secret FBI files from a fake AMA on /pol/ showing clinton violated the Espionage Act over the summer and they accordingly did jack shit compared to people like guccifer & wikileaks. but hell, MPC liked my superman article so they're all right in my book.
as gyrofry put it in the last thread the civility of liberal discourse is not worth preserving nor is the notion that the bourgeois liberal world order isn't the worst possible world right now. for that exact reason pretending like the marginalized paranoid weirdos on the far right are now "in power" should be denounced as fantasy, what's worse it's the clinton campaign line to a T, she literally wanted people to believe that trump was the candidate of the positive beliefs of 4chan instead of the truth which is that people loathed her and all she stood for, not because they agreed with 4chan but because she represented the wrong end of various potential class allies and false consciousness junkies peeling away from the bourgeoisie with genuine & obvious material cause in terms of employment instability, and the opposition came from a multitude of different political vectors and materialized in a multitude of ways, including angry, purposeful refusal to support anyone in the general. we even saw it progress among the handful of liberals posting among the rest of us here.
claiming that /pol/ has the white house is the mirror image of how /pol/ has claimed that we, the marxists, have had the white house for the past eight years and would have won it for another four if clinton were elected. the fact that /pol/ believes both the line where they "win" and the line where we "win" is illustrative of how the right never has any historical perspective and always thinks revolution is imminent, immanent and magical, they think they can trick history into performing as they desire. this leads to masterstrokes in Fail like swirlsofhistory attempting to get the exactly zero hillary clinton voters who read this forum to vote for jill stein with weird fake posts that reek of old ball sweat, which i'm sure he thinks helped /pol/ win the white house because he's dumb as rocks. /pol/ taking credit for beating clinton is like if a terrorist had waited until they were the last being on one cracked half of the titanic and set off a firecracker and claimed they sunk it.
i'd instead rejoice because i can't imagine a good future for the left in the united states, or any future, that doesn't start with the world-history-fueled demolition of the contemporary democratic party's populist myth among younger workers already inclined to think in leftish ways, which will have to begin with a disgruntled withdrawal of left-liberal support like we just saw (again, way bigger of a factor than any support that was drummed up for trump who simply failed to lose as many votes as clinton). those people decided the election and they don't have any clue what the fuck /pol/ is supposed to be and they'd hate it if they did. and it is not marxist and consistently erases class to think that you can trick people into becoming /pol/ fluoride conspiracy apes when they just rejected pragmatic, pretty fascism, dolled up just the way that has been mathematically calculated to appeal to them, en masse.
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cars posted:i'd instead rejoice because i can't imagine a good future for the left in the united states, or any future, that doesn't start with the world-history-fueled demolition of the contemporary democratic party's populist myth among younger workers already inclined to think in leftish ways, which will have to begin with a disgruntled withdrawal of left-liberal support like we just saw (again, way bigger of a factor than any support that was drummed up for trump who simply failed to lose as many votes as clinton). those people decided the election and they don't have any clue what the fuck /pol/ is supposed to be and they'd hate it if they did. and it is not marxist and consistently erases class to think that you can trick people into becoming /pol/ fluoride conspiracy apes when they just rejected pragmatic, pretty fascism, dolled up just the way that has been mathematically calculated to appeal to them, en masse.
the whole point of connor kilpatrick and whoever else bloviating about ID politics is to gather the people who peeled off from clinton and corral them back into a democratic party with the goal of resetting the official ideology from faking multiculturalism to earnestly supporting the interests of the white middle class. people like goatstein who are grossed out by queer people and think that black people are stupid but think they're socialists because they like the new deal are being courted as a potential wave of dem optimism if people like kilpatrick have some amount of success in their attempted ideological coup
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:remember when garak was getting perved on by gul dukats big titty halfbreed daughter. pepperidge farms. america is already great
three different actresses in four years and nana visitor accidentally let it out that the second one was let go because the makeup went nuclear on her face. the secret c0nec tip to becoming a recurring star trek alien, invincibly perfect skin
roseweird posted:ds9 was not agood trek
u wrong
roseweird posted:remember that episode about naked ferengi mom
that wouldnt make the top 50 worst episodes of star trek