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Red_Canadian posted:

The revolutionary, the ideological motor force of the revolution within the party, is consumed by this uninterrupted activity that comes to an end only with death, unless the construction of socialism is accomplished on a world scale. If one's revolutionary zeal is blunted when the most urgent tasks have been accomplished on a local scale and one forgets about proletarian internationalism, the revolution one leads will cease to be a driving force and sink into a comfortable drowsiness that imperialism, our irreconcilable enemy, will utilize to gain ground. Proletarian internationalism is a duty, but it is also a revolutionary necessity. This is the way we educate our people.



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#82
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Red_Canadian posted:

don't most of those people support the kurdish forces? i mean, i think it's fair to give most of them more credit then, "they're all isis supporters!" there's some idiots supporting every political ideology.



if they were "supporting" the kurdish forces in anything but vague symbolic gestures they would not be taking an oppositional line to russian intervention or syrian state security efforts, because the kurdish resistance affirm the necessity of both.

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heh i just searched anarchy dad's twitter back two months and the only mention of "russia" was a retweeted complaint against the NHS relating to the labor dispute there (compare to 193 mentions of "kurd"). that is a remarkably dedicated agnosticism, which i guess is better than some alternatives
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Constantignoble posted:

ultimately, for voicing the contrary opinion that Self-Determination Is Good, brown moses banned them. twice.



revisited link to show to someone else and lo, we're up to three times (third concerning ukraine). plus pile-on snarking in a thread calling attention to higgins' conflict of interest. immediate recourse to suppression and strongarming without so much as the pretense of discussion to be found anywhere.

it's really clicking for me, as never before, what an absolute lost cause that place has become. still, though, interesting case study on how a few shills in the right place can completely lock down critical interrogation of media narratives

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Constantignoble posted:

Constantignoble posted:

ultimately, for voicing the contrary opinion that Self-Determination Is Good, brown moses banned them. twice.

revisited link to show to someone else and lo, we're up to three times (third concerning ukraine). plus pile-on snarking in a thread calling attention to higgins' conflict of interest. immediate recourse to suppression and strongarming without so much as the pretense of discussion to be found anywhere.

it's really clicking for me, as never before, what an absolute lost cause that place has become. still, though, interesting case study on how a few shills in the right place can completely lock down critical interrogation of media narratives



daayyumm. someone get this man/woman/etc an account.

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I found a lot of great and powerful quotes on the topic of propaganda which seem pretty effective but I'm nervous about sharing them since they come from mein Kampf :-3
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The_Boourns_Identity posted:

I found a lot of great and powerful quotes on the topic of propaganda which seem pretty effective but I'm nervous about sharing them since they come from mein Kampf :-3

You should definitely do an effort thread on Mein Kampf, it would be awesome to have an essay that shows how modern day anticommunists use Hitler's ideas to make their propaganda today. "The big lie" really does work - it's not wrong to acknowledge that - as long as you don't pretend that is the ethical or desirable way forward.

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I dont think the guy who believes victims of police abuse bear some responsibility for their suffering due to being rude to cops, or that palestinians are bringing their genocide onto themselves through their rabid anti-semitism, is capable of writing a nuanced account of the contents of Mein kampf.
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Prove that forums superstar wrong! Go forth and write the most nuanced account of the contents of Mein Kampf they have ever memorized!
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http://www.rationalrevolution.net/special/library/tottlefraud.pdf

the holodomar campaign was kicked off in us/uk and nazi germany in 1935 after william hearst met with hitler
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looks like The Syria Campaign isnt doing very well, they made a big push to turn fb profiles red and organise protests among gullibles and they have nothing to show for it.

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#94
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Constantignoble posted:

Constantignoble posted:

ultimately, for voicing the contrary opinion that Self-Determination Is Good, brown moses banned them. twice.

revisited link to show to someone else and lo, we're up to three times (third concerning ukraine). plus pile-on snarking in a thread calling attention to higgins' conflict of interest. immediate recourse to suppression and strongarming without so much as the pretense of discussion to be found anywhere.

it's really clicking for me, as never before, what an absolute lost cause that place has become. still, though, interesting case study on how a few shills in the right place can completely lock down critical interrogation of media narratives



Internet forums are entirely dependent on who's moderating. It's very easy to delete posts or ban people over and over, especially on a forum with $10 barrier to entry. If a place is "out of control" it can be simply shut down like LF.

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It is not a matter of skill. There is no rebutting conspiracy theorists. It doesn't happen. There's no point debating or discussing with them. There is no room for them in D&D. If it was possible to be pro-Assad without being a conspiracy theorist, then that would be a refreshing view-point, but that is not extant. Prove me wrong and find me an Assad supporter who is not a conspiracy theorist. Buy them an account, and let them post in D&D.

We've probated (and in one case, banned) two Marxists recently for very similar problems. Swampman, a Tankie, who had been given plenty of opportunity not to be a conspiracy theorist and failed (and then returned despite being urged not to, with exactly the same pattern of discussion), and Borneo Jimmy, who has a similar relationship with Hugo Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela.
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hmm, nice anti-imperialist positions on syria, venezuela, and the ussr - unfortunately they're all conspiracy theories, and thus bannable.
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this subreddit called r/badhistory keeps coming up in my searches lately and it looks like the type of liberal anti-communist shit that D&D has been known for:

https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/3lm79y/the_revolution_will_not_be_adequately_sourced_yes/
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i like dropping truth bombs in freestyle rap form through xboxlive video games just okay just super sayin hopin to catch the ear of a jung soldier ready to fight on the Left side
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HenryKrinkle posted:

this subreddit called r/badhistory keeps coming up in my searches lately and it looks like the type of liberal anti-communist shit that D&D has been known for:

https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/3lm79y/the_revolution_will_not_be_adequately_sourced_yes/



the lovely soul who wrote the original masterpost actually wrote a response to this very badhistory post

https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/3lot78/bad_history_indeed_in_defense_of_the/

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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1124909670883912&id=100000946684702&pnref=story

narrative kinetics in the comments
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#104
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there but for the grace of allah go babyfinland
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i think trying to convince the sons of IT professionals on SA that communism is good is probably doomed to hit a brick wall
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I mean this is a demographic whose entire deeply narcissistic identities are built upon a reverence and pretentions of knowledge of science, philosophy and culture. Despite not knowing much about any of these things beyond what they learned on YouTube vids, it's their whole being. They'd rather die than self criticise, you'd be damaging their well constructed identity
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xipe posted:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1124909670883912&id=100000946684702&pnref=storynarrative kinetics in the comments



Sorry I should've given some context: an anti imperialist/pro Syrian gov professor was invited to speak at a gel refugee conference... the British SWP organised a campaign to get him barred via their front group called 'listen to Syrian voices' (and their other front group which split off from Stop The War Coalition because they are pro war in Syria)... comments are them ignoring Syrians who want their country free from terrorists as well as other anti imperialists

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well we've finally hit peak Nayirah testimony about Iraqi soldiers pulling babies out of incubators.


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/syrias-war-on-doctors
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aerdil posted:

well we've finally hit peak Nayirah testimony about Iraqi soldiers pulling babies out of incubators.


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/syrias-war-on-doctors


People hear stories like this and think "why would anyone do that, those oriental monsters" rather than "why would anyone do that, what a load of bull shit". Pathetic

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mt.real
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whatever gets clicks
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drwhat posted:

whatever gets clicks


red salute