#1
it informs your opinion of the world, if you are educated stupid moron and are literally ok with having your brain bought and paid for and doing unpaid mental labor picking up on and internalizing these subrosa whispers in breaking bad or whatever. the poisonous message vanishes if you reject the medium. if you uniformly dismiss all media as made by shit fucks and functionally equivalent to a pile of polypropylene chips or a barge full of yummy brown lignite then it is technically Dummheit but its the Dummheit that Macht Frei
#2
read some lacan dummy
#3
like is this a copy-paste from somewhere? it's a really fucking bad post. the argument is the prime example of the false logic of liberalism. even if you as an individual could escape the media, which you can't, you live in a society in which everyone you meet constantly consumes it. the institutions you interact with on a daily basis are shaped by the aggregate of individuals who are influenced by that culture. there is an on-going dialectical process in which that aggregate of individuals (society) creates and shapes the media and the media in turn influences and shapes society. there's no way to escape it, even if you realize the machinations and poisonous effect of ideology, you are still exposed to it in a variety of ways including basic human interaction. everytime you venture out into the family, friend groups, work, shopping to find your basic needs, and *ahem* the internet, your very consciousness is shaped by the things you say and do and what is done and said to you. all of which are influenced by the media even if you don't directly consume it. even if you decide to henry david thoreau it up in a cabin in the woods somewhere, your baseline of thought has already been formed and irrevocably shaped by society. and that existence is still made possible by society. if while you're out there writing up tracts on individualism, the rest of society decides to put everyone into labor camps, you can be pretty damn sure you'll be getting a knock on the door. so yeah to say that the media and by extension pop culture isn't worth discussing and studying in depth and isn't something to give a shit about is pure idiocy and thoroughly non-marxist, hth
#4
it's an attempt to resolve the contradictory beliefs of "I am a really smart and insightful person" and "I like dumb trash" by pretending the trash is actually smart and full of hidden meanings. sometimes they do this because they really believe it, sometimes they are basically playing a game, and sometimes it's because they have prodromal schizophrenia
#5
from everything i've seen an interest in postmodernist/poststructuralist analysis in people under 25 is a statistically significant warning sign and/or trigger for schizophrenia and should be avoided until at least the late 20s
#6

aerdil posted:

like is this a copy-paste from somewhere? it's a really fucking bad post. the argument is the prime example of the false logic of liberalism. even if you as an individual could escape the media, which you can't, you live in a society in which everyone you meet constantly consumes it. the institutions you interact with on a daily basis are shaped by the aggregate of individuals who are influenced by that culture. there is an on-going dialectical process in which that aggregate of individuals (society) creates and shapes the media and the media in turn influences and shapes society. there's no way to escape it, even if you realize the machinations and poisonous effect of ideology, you are still exposed to it in a variety of ways including basic human interaction. everytime you venture out into the family, friend groups, work, shopping to find your basic needs, and *ahem* the internet, your very consciousness is shaped by the things you say and do and what is done and said to you. all of which are influenced by the media even if you don't directly consume it. even if you decide to henry david thoreau it up in a cabin in the woods somewhere, your baseline of thought has already been formed and irrevocably shaped by society. and that existence is still made possible by society. if while you're out there writing up tracts on individualism, the rest of society decides to put everyone into labor camps, you can be pretty damn sure you'll be getting a knock on the door. so yeah to say that the media and by extension pop culture isn't worth discussing and studying in depth and isn't something to give a shit about is pure idiocy and thoroughly non-marxist, hth



you can escape from pop culture and its influence by reflexively loathing everyone and everything, unless the ultimate source for someone's plans for whatever way they plan to materially control you was a beyonce video and not the fact they will make a buck from it

#7
more like poop culture
#8
my main complaint is that the incredible wealth of the subjects being analyzed is ignored.

https://twitter.com/HenryKrinkIe/status/568893212238024704
#9
#10

HenryKrinkle posted:

my main complaint is that the incredible wealth of the subjects being analyzed is ignored.

https://twitter.com/HenryKrinkIe/status/568893212238024704

sure, but why are you linking to a set of twitter posts as if it's your Recent Work On The Subject when actually it's just three or four tweets. you couldn't write two more sentences in your post instead, you're too busy?

#11
hes jus building his brand, are you even on twitter? then youd know.






please follow me, i have some takes you might like
#12
if you try to ban linking to henry krinkle's twitter i will call up the generals and we will drive tanks into your github
#13
people analyse pop culture because its easy and doesn't require any sort of resources other than a tv or a laptop or w/e.
#14
you can and should analyze everything
#15
mim's movie reviews were good and cool
#16
our dear departed matriarch also had some great reviews
#17
Because it's consumed by almost everyone and its easier than actually organizing. You k ow, that thing that maybe three of you do.
#18

Makeshift_Swahili posted:

people analyse pop culture because its easy and doesn't require any sort of resources other than a tv or a laptop or w/e.

it requires the science of marxism-leninism

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#22
SJW: a racially diverse coke ad. this is so important.
MLM: *le deep and meaningful analysis of capitalism*
#23

conec posted:

ohh yea!! im gonna get my buddies from school together in a school club and im gonna tell them that marx said all this stuff and im gonna mention the bit about hegel and im gonna write a synthesis of adorno and hegel even tho thats what adorno already fucking is and its going to cause a chain reaction and people are gonna become socialist like me and we`re going to Rise Above!!!

best of luck to you

#24

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

it's an attempt to resolve the contradictory beliefs of "I am a really smart and insightful person" and "I like dumb trash" by pretending the trash is actually smart and full of hidden meanings. sometimes they do this because they really believe it, sometimes they are basically playing a game, and sometimes it's because they have prodromal schizophrenia



same

#25
e: thought the subject said analyzing poop culture. just gonna duck out of this thread.
#26
its a great way to unwind between struggle sessions and after a vigorous bout of smashing the fash. pushups for the marxist brain
#27
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#28
He has a career doing that now and you're still 19, iirc.
#29
i think a big part of why people do it is so that they can get jobs at marketing or PR firms once they give up on the academia job market
#30

swampman posted:

if you try to ban linking to henry krinkle's twitter i will call up the generals and we will drive tanks into your github

i'm not banning it(!) or pretty much anything ever, unless it's mustang. i was just being pissy as usual

#31
good stuff
#32
Poop culture
#33
Art isn't important and criticizing the media you consume is even less, Adorno was wrong, we should care about Soviet power and electrification of the whole country. That said, I really hate that Broad City are doing that retarded Hillary crap.

Chears.

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#34
There is no document of culture which is not at the same time a document of barbarism.
- Kurdt Cobain
#35

drwhat posted:

swampman posted:

if you try to ban linking to henry krinkle's twitter i will call up the generals and we will drive tanks into your github

i'm not banning it(!) or pretty much anything ever, unless it's mustang. i was just being pissy as usual



please ban yourself

#36
sorry thats just an instinctual response i have to people with power over me
#37
Give Shit While Assalyzing Poop Cultures
#38

aerdil posted:

read some Stuart Hall


#39
i think media analysis can serve an important function in education. an analysis of beyonces recent performace at the superbowl could easily go into the history of the black panthers, the murder of fred hampton, the bpp's relation to revolutionary communist politics and so on. people simply don't know this stuff but are willing to learn, i think. media analysis can be the "hook" to get people dancin' to that hate amerikkka beat.



i didn't read any discussion about beyonce but how many articles centered around if she was "fierce" and "empowering" and ended there? did they talk about the bpp? if so, how many talked about the massive government repression of bpp activities? if so, how many talked about bpp's anti-capitalist politics? seems to me like the important part is linking the analysis to concrete historical and contemporary conditions. otherwise you end up in a liberal "we need more representation of ___ in media and things will automatically become better" morass.
#40
Turd Fart Poop Creature