#2081
The Lighthouse was pretty cool
#2082
waiting until cars hits deep REM sleep, then whispering "headcanon" softly into his ear until 4am
#2083
i don't know what that means and i decline to seek an answer.
#2084

Petrol posted:

i saw the new star war. its good. not as good as last jedi but thats to be expected. a lot of people are, predictably, Caring about it too much one way or the other. newsflash: its possible to enjoy thing without making it a central part of whatever is dysfunctional about your identity


Spoiler!



also, during the Finn-has-a-secret-to-tell-Ray part, i just imagined Finn straight up telling Rey that he thought the Jedi were bourgeoisie scum and saying he'd lead a proletarian revolution. but hey they can save that for episode 10

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#2085

toyot posted:

reading about T-34 which came out in english this year. the 2nd highest grossing russian film behind Going Vertical, about the '72 munich mens basketball olympic finals, it's got a real butthurt wikipedia page. also butthurt, the real-life baby ass US players who refused to take the L & accept their silver medals. more embarrassing than losing to a superior team imo is whining about it for 40 straight years


If it's called T-34 then I'll probably watch it. I watched Panfilov's 28 Men which is another one of these Russian war films, and partially funded by a video game studio. It's about an anti-tank unit defending a stretch of the line near Moscow. It apparently didn't really happen but was kinda cooked up into a heroic story and treated like it did. Which is fine. Also the Russian and Kazakh governments put up some money for the movie, so there's a scene where a Russian soldier and Kazakh soldier team up on a PTRD rifle to knock out a tank while talking about how they are fighting for both Russia and Kazakhstan. Not communism, though. But it looks like they spent a lot of effort on making it look right, so if you're like me and want to see the effects of PTRDs on the tracks of Panzerkampfwagen IIIs then it's worth watching. I kinda half-watched it.

I was reading about another movie called Age of Pioneers about Voskhod 2, the first spacewalk that resulted in the cosmonaut, Alexei Leonov, becoming trapped outside the craft. They also landed in the middle of nowhere in Russia (in March) and had to tough it out with a custom-made cosmonaut survival gun to shoot bears with. Seems cool.

#2086

pogfan1996 posted:

rewatching party down, i wish this exiled article stopped being accurate but the film industry continues to be garbage

http://exiledonline.com/american-movies-are-dead-so-party-down/


Hollywood needs:

– Get rid of happy ending. Serious, sometimes you need to kill somebody to make the whole story have sense, sometimes it’s the main character even.

– Get back to the we work in making movies here ethics. Just like when Ford got a van, a camera, 50 cans of virgin film and 100 bucks for expenses and was told: I wan’t material for 2 movies with that in two months. Deliver or there’s an Hungarian ready to do your job for half the pay. No more marketing dictatorship.

– Massive executions and forced labor for those 40something ex-nerds, now industry executives, vindicating that reading comic books back on their adolescences was not for losers.

– Acting talent would be fine, but not really necessary.

#2087
nowadays the non-happy ending is used just as cheaply by Hollywood, only it's treated as though it's automatically deep and meaningful
#2088
"Acting talent would be fine, but not really necessary," is true though as clearly demonstrated by the hit 90s sci-fi show, Babylon 5.
#2089
someone should make a good movie
#2090

trakfactri posted:

"Acting talent would be fine, but not really necessary," is true though as clearly demonstrated by the hit 90s sci-fi show, Babylon 5.



lol yeah... i guess you got Bill Mumy, you got... skyrim lady.. Boxleitner is only as good as the script but considering what happened with that role they must have done something right or they'd have been cancelled in year two

one thing i have to grant brand Y is, they gave Andreas Katsulas a character. it's such a shame to waste a solid actor with a voice designed by cigarettes. Katsulas described his recurring role on star trek as, he drove in, sat for two hours for makeup, sat in a different chair to read his lines into the camera and went home. he played a four-time villain on the best-rated show in franchise history, he even clocked in for the series finale, but he's said it before, it was impossible for anyone to enjoy that guy. there was no character behind his lines, because he only ever appeared on the giant TV inside the TV show, except for one episode where he had to actually come on set and hit his marks and everything and it was exhausting for him, it was his third time in a year playing this guy and he had no idea who he was, he fucking hated it. this from a man who had his head wrapped in green petroleum gum and his eyeballs flayed with 1990s costume contacts for five seasons to play a space lizard Yassir Arafat written by a Spider-Man comic book writer consulting Usenet for his scripts. but for an actor that sort of steady makeup hell has to be better than, In this TV role, you play a guy on a TV. brand X wasted so much good talent with crap like that, though it was usually guest stars or future superstars who just liked star trek for whatever reason and agreed to be suckers.

#2091
it's not a lie if you believe it
#2092
Aladdin 2019

pretty bold of Disney to have Aladdin form a vanguard party, execute all the royalty (even Jasmine is not spared) and start land redistribution. meanwhile his little brother copes with the situation by imagining a helpful genie that guides our comrades to successful liberation. what a pleasant surprise
#2093
#2094
doing my annual pirating of all movies that came out last year. parasite, us, knives out, john wick, glass, jojo rabbit, the dead don't die were all far more boring or awful than i expected. "good boys" was funny and im currently enjoying "little monsters." have a great day.
#2095
this one movie "the laundromat" starring meryl streep is good for a while. its about offshore money and how rich people hide it. then at the hour mark it turns into falun gong propaganda and shows chinese police abducting people one by one from an innocuous falun gong ceremony and then harvesting their hearts, corneas, and kidneys
#2096

tears posted:

someone should make a good movie


Children of Men is better now than when it came out. if you need a good movie, this "is it"

#2097
the only cool scene in children of men is the opening scene, where a group of radical marxist-leninist-maoist university students suicide bomb a chic hipster cafe in an up-and-coming neighborhood. otherwise the movie is orwellian garbage
#2098

jansenist_drugstore posted:

the only cool scene in children of men is the opening scene, where a group of radical marxist-leninist-maoist university students suicide bomb a chic hipster cafe in an up-and-coming neighborhood. otherwise the movie is orwellian garbage



It portrays a fascist Britain locking up Muslim refugees in camps, not an anti communist depiction of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

#2099
Not defending the movie, but it’s not Orwellian. The portrayal of the revolutionaries was garbage once the leader was revealed to be actually an opportunist working with the cops and the happy ending ended up being the burned out ex-communist liberal getting the pregnant woman to the UN, leaving out whatever horrible shit was about to happen to half the human population when fascists try to correct demographic decline.
#2100
I only remember that it looked like half life 2
#2101

dimashq posted:

jansenist_drugstore posted:

the only cool scene in children of men is the opening scene, where a group of radical marxist-leninist-maoist university students suicide bomb a chic hipster cafe in an up-and-coming neighborhood. otherwise the movie is orwellian garbage

It portrays a fascist Britain locking up Muslim refugees in camps, not an anti communist depiction of the dictatorship of the proletariat.



It was... a joke...

#2102
I combined the plot of la chinoise with the plot of a stupid dystopian movie
#2103
#2104
just thinking about how caremad RLM got about the lady ghostbusters reboot and how they kept bringing it up when they reviewed annihilation, which they lauded as a good female led scifi film. heads up fellas: ghostbusters was never scifi and there is no such thing as a good film starring natalie portman
#2105

Petrol posted:

just thinking about how caremad RLM got about the lady ghostbusters reboot and how they kept bringing it up when they reviewed annihilation, which they lauded as a good female led scifi film. heads up fellas: ghostbusters was never scifi and there is no such thing as a good film starring natalie portman



The prequels

#2106
i tell people who like star war how much i like episode 1

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#2107
jar jar is a jungian symbol- the amphibian is adolescence, the transition from tadpole to frog. boy to man. he represents anakins innocence, a vaudevillian tramp. as anakins innocence turns to evil, as the liberal democracy of the republic turns to facism, the innocent dullard jar jar casts the deciding vote for order 66. jar jar rules
#2108

Petrol posted:

just thinking about how



the Plinkett ghostbusters 2016 review was great especially in the specific ways it pissed a bunch of people off, they praised Leslie Jones and Kate MacKinnon and said the movie didn’t give them enough to do, said Kristen Wiig should have been hired to write the script, said the movie should have had a gay love story in it, and obviously ghostbusters is sci fi. This forum continues in its honor towards departed posters

#2109

cars posted:

obviously ghostbusters is sci fi


fly away, troll

#2110

swampman posted:

this one movie "the laundromat" starring meryl streep is good for a while. its about offshore money and how rich people hide it. then at the hour mark it turns into falun gong propaganda and shows chinese police abducting people one by one from an innocuous falun gong ceremony and then harvesting their hearts, corneas, and kidneys



yeah that part sucked but i guess they had to put that part in otherwise that section would be about xi jinping successfully addressing corruption

#2111
i've always found falun gong propaganda to be really funny because it seems very obvious that no one gives a shit about it at all outside of the people paid to do so.
#2112

usufruct posted:

jar jar is a jungian symbol- the amphibian is adolescence, the transition from tadpole to frog. boy to man. he represents anakins innocence, a vaudevillian tramp. as anakins innocence turns to evil, as the liberal democracy of the republic turns to facism, the innocent dullard jar jar casts the deciding vote for order 66. jar jar rules


isnt jung that guy who gave allen dulles the idea for mkultra

#2113
jung was just freud's petty side piece with an excessive tendency for fantasy and perversion
#2114

cars posted:

lo posted:

it's extremely 'cool' that tvtropes and wikis and other stuff like that have destroyed a bunch of people's ability to engage with art and understand the concept of metaphors and so forth and so on.

yeah TV Tropes is kind of a disease infecting a ton of non-bourgeois-born/non-"literary" writing in the English language IMO... nowadays, in the rare circumstance where a popular writer of around my age or younger in the U.S. or UK wasn't born to billionaires in a NYC or Saint-Germain penthouse or sired by some tenured creative writing professor in the Ivy League, they probably came up through some fan-centric writer's circle online, and so they talk and think in terms of sites like that one. You read young genre writers and wannabe writers from outside the bourgeoisie going back and forth on some place that's exposed to others, Twitter or whatever, and so many of them are just wrecking their critical thinking with this stuff. And even if they go into academia or get shamed by some decrepit Saussure acolyte into stepping up their game, they still feel it necessary to pay homage to this stuff as faux-populism, especially since self-examination isn't why you win the lottery through Amazon self-publishing or whatever and become the next thing everyone has to have an opinion about as a pop-culture-writing freelancer.

For anyone who hasn't read it, and stick to that policy if you haven't, the idea behind TV Tropes is that every single thing in every single story in every single medium, Ovid or Joyce or Star Wars or Mario or whatever, every character or event or description or theme, is a "trope", that is, a significant motif, simply because it exists, and it can be yanked out of the story and encased in lucite along many, many others like it in a single category with no attention paid to whether it really fits or to the value of the story it's from, or in three or six or ten categories like that, all named by some Online rando after some kids' cartoon they remember.

These "trope" categories then become the ways that writers and wannabe writers in these circles, mostly focused on schools of "genre" fiction, talk down to each other, and, eventually, describe and even plan their own stories: this character is kind of This Trope and a little of That Trope engaged in The Other Trope, please click the links to TV Tropes to see how my character is a lot like Darth Vader, Luigi and Piers Plowman. And if they expect to see a "trope" in some story somewhere—and they do, because they've trained themselves to expect the most hackneyed and predictable element from every single story they read or write—and it doesn't appear, they still put the thing on the page, they just say it's "subverted". So they create and enforce these crowd-sourced rules under which every single story must be the most hack dumb predictable shit possible or must be subordinated to it as commentary on the "trope".

TV Tropes isn't analysis, and it isn't the analysis-free cauldron of the "natural" writer or outsider artist or even of the slavish "fandom" itself. Instead, it's the crowd-sourced hypertrophy of "murder to dissect", a cargo cult of analysis by people who learned the term "MacGuffin" and decided that everything needed a name like that, a secret password to the Burger King Kids Club.

I doubt reading Saussure has inspired much fiction worth reading, so imagine reading something from a LISA-style chatbot that was trained on Bartlett's Quotations from the guy. Not that the TV Tropes-style school of young writer would be anything but shocked and offended by that edgy new kid Saussure, because this school of pseudo-analysis really just repeats a time before "Turn of the Screw" was written, a sort of 19th-century paleontological taxonomy of fossils. (Far right genre babies probably blame this on "post-modernism" somehow since their particular shit isn't allowed on TV Tropes.)

I probably care more than I should but it's just degenerate and sickening to me as a reader, because for the next writer to get their work published, they either need to have a bunch of NYT bestseller writers and literary agents at their christening, which is like 90% of successful "literary" writers now, or be a TV Tropes cult member who panders enough to their peers' expectations to get noticed, first by some pop-culture-sewer-dredging "news" site, then by someone willing to exploit that article's topic. And that's the work that everyone's going to hear about, the work that's going to get recommended to me by people in my life for the foreseeable future and because they're good people, they're going to explain that yeah it kind of sucks too.

quoting trhis great post for the new year !

#2115


if you've seen a few of miyazaki's movies you might enjoy this critique!
#2116
#2117
tvtropes is people taking seriously the premise of the joseph campbell idea that successful myths are constituted of fundamental building blocks, which is the premise of the star wars franchise, which campbell was a consultant on. Its a generalization of the idea of genre conventions and an exercise in taxonomy. I think it makes sense for things like star wars, comic books, or long running tv shows, or really any sort of pulp media, which are generally constructed on those terms in the first place. People who read fantasy novels tell me that mormon careerist fantasy titan brandon sanderson teaches classes in how to make "magic systems" at byu, which seems like basically the current state of the art in pulp lit engineering. It would be interesting imo to compare how tvtropes type people analyze and interpret writing with how prestigious writing workshops train people to write "compelling stories".
#2118
I saw "knives out" because i like detective movies
#2119

c_man posted:

tvtropes is people taking seriously the premise of the joseph campbell idea that



i hate to defend Joseph Campbell but TV Tropes is people taking seriously the premise that their Web site isn't a piece of shit

#2120
are you just going off my summary of it? have you ever read the site I'm talking about?

this is literally the first page I found by clicking the TV Tropes "random page" link



i mean come on. "fundamental building blocks". LOL.