#481
Namaste
#482
namaste
#483
oohps



i mean whupps




nobode better lay a finge ron my butterfingers








#484

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#485

http://gulfnews.com/news/region/iraq/war-reporters-lament-black-holes-in-daesh-areas-1.1397600 posted:

War reporters lament black holes in Daesh areas
Most experienced of journalists do not dare venture into Daesh territories
AFP
Published: 17:35 October 12, 2014


BAYEUX, France: Kidnappings, beheadings, a hatred of journalists: the areas controlled by Daesh have become “black holes” of news where even war-hardened reporters dare not venture.

Speaking on the sidelines of the annual Bayeux-Calvados awards for war correspondents in northwestern France, where three of seven prizes went to coverage of the conflict in Syria, journalists used to danger zones said reporting on areas overrun by militants had become near-impossible.

We don’t know what is going on in Fallujah, in Ramadi, in Mosul. These are big (Iraqi) cities,” said Jean-Pierre Perrin, a reporter for Liberation daily.

“It’s a war without witnesses.”

As a result, even seasoned war reporters are refusing to go anywhere near the areas where Daesh operates.

Photographer Laurent Van der Stockt, who has received several prizes in the past for his reports in Syria and is known for his contacts on the ground, has said he will not venture into Daesh-held territory.

Jean-Philippe Remy, a journalist for Le Monde daily who travelled to Syria in 2013 with Van der Stockt, said deciding to stay away felt like a “failure”.

“It becomes wickedly complicated when a journalist becomes a prey or... part of a propaganda machine.”

Christophe Deloire, head of Reporters Without Borders, said Daesh kept part of its “myth” going thanks to violence against journalists and general mystery about what goes on in the areas it controls.

As a result, the conflict can “unfortunately only be covered using indirect sources.”

Jon Randal, a globetrotting journalist who spent 30 years at the Washington Post and was this year’s jury president, said he was “very pessimistic.”

“Not only can we not go there but these radical groups have mastered all types of modern media and social networks,” he said of the ability by Daesh militants to use the Internet to spread their message and recruit candidates.

Journalist Medyan Dairieh did spend three weeks embedded with Daesh to report on the group’s self-proclaimed caliphate for Vice News, but the documentary stirred controversy.

“It’s propaganda,” said Van der Stockt.

“We’re verging on activism. Sometimes it looks like Daesh itself filmed,” he added.


#486
damn., its a shame they cant go. to those citties. i bet there are a whole lot of ISIS in there. those cities they cant go to i mean

#487
#488
*finally makes way into Ramadi after passing through high security CIA checkpoint* *no ISIS in sight* Damb. just missed 'em
#489

Petrol posted:

http://gulfnews.com/news/region/iraq/war-reporters-lament-black-holes-in-daesh-areas-1.1397600 posted:

War reporters lament black holes in Daesh areas
Most experienced of journalists do not dare venture into Daesh territories
AFP
Published: 17:35 October 12, 2014



https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=fallujah lol
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=ramadi lol
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=mosul lol,


#490
#491

Petrol posted:


but really, how gay? this is time sensitive for me

#492

libelous_slander posted:

Petrol posted:

but really, how gay? this is time sensitive for me

#493
fuck, what do i look like, a ghost? just eat some fucking berries afterwards if youre so damn worried about it!
#494
How bout that, James Foley? what do you think? oh sorry lol
#495

libelous_slander posted:

Petrol posted:

but really, how gay? this is time sensitive for me



Not gay enough

#496
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#497
good ass thred everyone
#498
I retract my claims. ISIS is definitely not an imperialist tool. I was wrong and ill be the first to admit it.
#499
Gaddafi was a tyrant. Glory to ukraine, glory to heroes. I fucking love HBO. AwOOga . Ahummina hummina hummina
#500
let's settle this in the streets
#501
James Foley is the motivational Chris Farley character whp lives in a van down by the river and chris farley did die just btw. Wasn't fake.
#502
why do you hate me so much
#503

cars posted:

Petrol posted:

http://gulfnews.com/news/region/iraq/war-reporters-lament-black-holes-in-daesh-areas-1.1397600 posted:

War reporters lament black holes in Daesh areas
Most experienced of journalists do not dare venture into Daesh territories
AFP
Published: 17:35 October 12, 2014

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=fallujah lol
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=ramadi lol
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=mosul lol,



lol this still works......

#504

Keven posted:

James Foley is the motivational Chris Farley character whp lives in a van down by the river and chris farley did die just btw. Wasn't fake.

ahem http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/post/246121/

#505
Whoops somehow I missed that post from 17 months ago, my bad dude.
#506
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#507
Bip
#508
so is the theory that ISIS is US controlled from the top down? is it heavily penetrated but not entirely controlled by the US? is the US just tolerating GCC funding of ISIS to counter-balance the Shia axis?

not entirely clear here.
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#510

HenryKrinkle posted:

so is the theory that ISIS is US controlled from the top down? is it heavily penetrated but not entirely controlled by the US? is the US just tolerating GCC funding of ISIS to counter-balance the Shia axis?

not entirely clear here.



There's a notable lack of Turkey or Israel in the options you are giving us.

#511
I don't think the top down theory is plausible or neccessary, if that is meant to imply that all members of ISIS are CIA agents in disguise taking orders straight from the White House, or something of that sort.

On the other hand this idea seems plausible to me: ISIS is heavily infiltrated by multiple allied intelligence agencies with convergent, if not identical, interests, who originally helped set up the org in the first place and now steer it in directions conducive to preserving the American led order. This is also a narrative that has been more or less already been admitted to be true even in the mainstream media, though the full story will not be known, if it ever is, until twenty years hence in order to explain why we are morally obligated to invade the Gulf for the umpteenth time

Either way, however, we don't have to settle for an exact picture of the relationship between the US empire and ISIS as its happening, only point out those connections as they surface.

Edited by RedMaistre ()

#512
Who needs straightforward false flag ruses when you have entrapment ops?
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/topic/12324/?page=12#post-252477

#513

Keven posted:

Whoops somehow I missed that post from 17 months ago, my bad dude.



yeah, whatever, keven mencia

#514
the most conservative possibility imo is that the united states created ISIS by funneling weapons & support to the most "effective" anti-assad groups regardless of future cost, then played a years-long game of multi-pronged support for anti-assad groups that opposed each other. which is pretty fucking Bad.
#515
that sounds about right, although it may have been created by private companies based in the united states instead of the US state
#516
naw, we know the US state, not US corps, armed FSA at the very least
#517
i haven't seen much documentation about the involvement of the US bourgeoisie, but surely considering there is money to be made there must be some involvement
#518

HenryKrinkle posted:

so is the theory that ISIS is US controlled from the top down? is it heavily penetrated but not entirely controlled by the US? is the US just tolerating GCC funding of ISIS to counter-balance the Shia axis?

not entirely clear here.



hey you know those little crystal grow labs they make for kids, where you dissolve a bunch of minerals in boiling water and pour them into the container, but you have to manually add the little seed crystals first before anything starts growing, but once you do all the dissolved minerals from the surrounding environment start agglomerating onto those original crystals and forming larger and larger ones all on their own, without any more help or direct input from you? those things are cool

Edit: sorry, wrong thread. i thought this was the hidden Science forum

#519
i fucking love science
#520
Its been my pet theory that ISIS is mostly a recontextualization of militants as a traditional west phallian state, that can be eventually made peace with.

I'll check back in in 17 mo.