But other military experts see the possibility that the Egyptian army's current clampdown may, on the contrary, succeed in imposing order on the volatile region. Speaking on Israel Army Radio, the former deputy head of the Israeli security services, Israel Hasson, who is now a lawmaker, said he believed the Egyptian army "is absolutely determined to completely shatter the organization known as the Muslim Brotherhood."
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Asked how the situation may affect the region, Hasson said, "It's very simple. Egypt will not permit the existence of an armed branch of the Muslim Brotherhood with 20,000 men carrying weapons to operate on its northern border."
Regarding Hamas, which many view as a subsidiary of the Brotherhood, Hasson added, "And that means that Hamas is also on borrowed time."
"While Morsi was in power, the order was to not attack Israel. But since he was removed, the Muslim Brotherhood has reversed the order," said Maj. Eli Avidar, of the Israeli army intelligence reserves, referring to the Egyptian president who was overthrown on July 3.
Avidar said he believed the Brotherhood’s principal interest is to drag Israel into military engagement in the Sinai Peninsula, turning the conflict from a war among Egyptians to a war between Egypt and Israel.
“It is Israel's principal interest to avoid that,” he said. “Were Israel to attack in the Sinai, it would only benefit the Muslim Brotherhood."
"The former Israeli generals calling for us to hit hard in Sinai are idiots," he added. "For the first time, Israel is not an issue here."
Avidar said that instead Israel should cooperate more closely with the Egyptian military, and invest more in its intelligence capabilities and hardware.
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discipline posted:fuck this gay earth nuke from orbit with fire goon sire
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tpaine posted:in 2013 if you aren't adopting the most pessimistic viewpoint on any issue as a matter of course you've been living under a rock
i'm optimistic about egypt in the medium-long term actually clarence. and i am always right
tpaine posted:about egypt what
the egyptian revolution
roseweird posted:in 2013 the experience of hope is a psychotic episode
We are the extreme delusional schism with reality we have been waiting for
tpaine posted:in 2013 if you aren't adopting the most pessimistic viewpoint on any issue as a matter of course you've been living under a rock
your posting is proof this is a bad way to live
babyfinland posted:by "americans" do you mean the media or is that like the popular opinion over there? ive never heard anyone express anything but support for egyptians here, regardless of their position on the MB or the military etc
i don't know but the aggregate of the liberal blogosphere is relishing in the death of tons of muslims as they "had it coming" for being the Other
babyfinland posted:im always right about everything and no one ever congratluates me, in fact they hold it against me *kicks rocks* its rough being the best
I've always been staunchly right-wing and no one has ever given me credit for my fidelity. It irks me.
Many who described themselves as liberals and leftists have betrayed the Egyptian Revolution, led by those who took part in Al-Sisi’s government. They have sold the blood of the martyrs to whitewash the military and the counter-revolution. These people have blood on their hands.
We, the Revolutionary Socialists, will never deviate for an instant from the path of the Egyptian Revolution. We will never compromise on the rights of the revolutionary martyrs and their pure blood: those who fell confronting Mubarak, those who fell confronting the Military Council, those who fell confronting Mursi’s regime, and those who fall now confronting Al-Sisi and his dogs.
Down with military rule! No the return of the old regime! No to the return of the Brotherhood! All power and wealth to the people
discipline posted:the americans and their running dogs will keep cycling through egyptian leaders until something sticks. revolutionary socialism isn't even on their radar because let's be honest, they massacred thousands over what amounts to the egyptian barack obama. imagine what they would do if they put in a leader who really wanted change! the americans and their running dogs would carpet bomb cairo, it would be baghdad all over again
babyhueypnewton posted:this no happen if they have vanguard party
hey huey has anyone called you a faggot today
Impper posted:i have always credited you
You've always seen me as a degenerate reactionary malcontent; for that I thank you and consider you a true friend.
SariBari posted:We stand firmly against Al-Sisi’s massacres, and against his ugly attempt to abort the Egyptian Revolution. For today’s massacre is the first step in the road towards counter-revolution. We stand with the same firmness against all assaults on Egypt’s Christians and against the sectarian campaign which only serves the interests of Al-Sisi and his bloody project.
Many who described themselves as liberals and leftists have betrayed the Egyptian Revolution, led by those who took part in Al-Sisi’s government. They have sold the blood of the martyrs to whitewash the military and the counter-revolution. These people have blood on their hands.
We, the Revolutionary Socialists, will never deviate for an instant from the path of the Egyptian Revolution. We will never compromise on the rights of the revolutionary martyrs and their pure blood: those who fell confronting Mubarak, those who fell confronting the Military Council, those who fell confronting Mursi’s regime, and those who fall now confronting Al-Sisi and his dogs.
Down with military rule! No the return of the old regime! No to the return of the Brotherhood! All power and wealth to the people
trots.
