Impper posted:this seems more like the framework for trying to build a movement than an academic work?
a promising new goon project
GoldenLionTamarin posted:personally im in favor of dissolving the union and turning each state into a sovereign nation
bring on the monarchies imo
I don't think anyone is interested in Olivia reading about how the Man is keeping us down,.they want decent lives for their families
discipline posted:babyfinland posted:I don't think anyone is interested in Olivia reading about how the Man is keeping us down,.they want decent lives for their families
actually a lot of people are interested in reading/hearing about this. that's why they listen to glen beck and alex jones and stuff. that's why we read marx and write posts. people can want decent lives for their families and also seek an end to oppression and big bank parasitism.
Oh ok i thought you wanted to help people, not be a crypto anti Semite talk show crazy. Carry on then
babyfinland posted:discipline posted:babyfinland posted:I don't think anyone is interested in Olivia reading about how the Man is keeping us down,.they want decent lives for their families
actually a lot of people are interested in reading/hearing about this. that's why they listen to glen beck and alex jones and stuff. that's why we read marx and write posts. people can want decent lives for their families and also seek an end to oppression and big bank parasitism.
Oh ok i thought you wanted to help people, not be a crypto anti Semite talk show crazy. Carry on then
i guess the break-up didn't go so well?
discipline posted:the most difficult part to overcome is the geographical barriers to community organizing, that is, the suburbs and so on.
that and employment...oh wait
but really gas is expensive and no one really wants to ride a bike especially if they have a family
discipline posted:stop projecting
can we just post this reply to most of the posts in this forum
discipline posted:elemennop posted:sorry, i don't mean to be dismissive, but at least at the beginning you seem to be highlighting a regional divide amongst white america. but with less than 10% of white people living in poverty, how many of them are living in the rural south/midwest that this is a significant population that can be organized in some fashion?
I don't know how you got "white america" out of what I wrote. the majority of whites who are poor live in the south, yes.
well, i meant you were mentioning poor southerners, and the implied racial connotation there is white usually.
this was recommended a long time ago in lf:
http://www.amazon.com/Red-State-Rebels-Grassroots-Resistance/dp/1904859844
supposed to be good
discipline posted:maybe for yanks. not for anyone who actually lives or has lived in the south and has two eyes.
i lived in alabama, and am living in georgia atm, not some fake south like florida
discipline posted:elemennop posted:i lived in alabama, and am living in georgia atm, not some fake south like florida
fake south in florida is south of ocala. but okay, if you live in georgia, tell me about the racial makeup of the poor population in atlanta or maybe in the fields of valdosta.
i never said there aren't poor black people? i guess i was just interpreting your thesis as being more than just saying "organize locally" and that it was instead pushing a kind of weak regional secession with regards to the south. apologies, my mistake.
EmanuelaOrlandi posted:lol most ppl in the world who ride bikes have families...
"He who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves his son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.” - a bicycle
EmanuelaOrlandi posted:lol most ppl in the world who ride bikes have families...
most ppl in the world arent americans. hth
discipline posted:if I were organizing in my hometown one of the first things I'd do is a joint effort of increased public transport and refurbishing empty units downtown (there are tens of thousands) to try and offer people alternatives to living in the suburbs
there was a fun article somewhere about using eminent domain to buy out homes that were underwater and refinance them to the owner at market cost or something. a fun, useful artifact of kelo v new london.
otoh, banks control so much municipal debt that they would fuck the cities over if they ever did that in any meaningful way.
anyway, this would help stabilize neighborhoods rather than trying to rehab ones that would require more investment. help the bourgie suburban poor, etc.
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