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perhaps its worth noting that i live in a euro amerikan style country that acted early to have an almost total lockdown and border closures and so forth and we seem to be having much reduced transmission(and only two deaths) as a result. so that suggests to me that the differences between china or korea and many western countries aren't simply due to the perfidious westerner's inability to "sacrifice a life$tyle that is the last string keeping them from looking at the mirror and seeing how a bunch of soulless husks they are", even though i support all attempted owns on western culture.
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https://therealmovement.wordpress.com/2020/04/08/open-letter-to-communists-of-the-whole-world-total-class-war-is-coming/

damn jehu
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Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:


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Parenti posted:

I'm looking for bookies now too.



Check your siggie, good sir.

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Meursault posted:

Parenti posted:


I'm looking for bookies now too.



Check your siggie, good sir.


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this morning i subjected myself (for some reason) to the social media discourse around the shit thats going on in guangzhou and i was once more reminded how insidious + pervasive the "black capitalist" narrative is even in pro-"social justice" circles. ppl seeing racism against africans by chinese people in china and getting (rightfully) angry and somehow translating that anger into "i cant believe the black community stood up for asian people experiencing racism in america and they do this to us, why do we let asian people have businesses in black neighborhoods". the insane way race is constructed + discussed in amerikkka and the inherently racialized nature of the way ppl are talking about coronavirus is a fucking powderkeg
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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.11.20062133v1

Our model for Sweden shows that, under conservative epidemiological parameter estimates, the current Swedish public-health strategy will result in a peak intensive-care load in May that exceeds pre-pandemic capacity by over 40-fold, with a median mortality of 96,000


The way this shit causes white people's brains to go into maximum infection mode like a cordyceps fungus is starting to make me believe it really was made in a lab

#572
UNUSUALY COOL
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The posting diaspora, returned... the second seal. *thunder rumbles over forums badlands as slow 2010s-trailer piano cover of "The Horse" plays from first chorus*
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what's a good charity to donate to that won't divert funds to regime change or the fbi kicking my door in
#574
lies half the time
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hamas and hezbollah are both fairly reputable
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lies half the time
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care international had such a good record in gaza & west bank that israel bombed their offices but i haven't heard if they ever started back up there after suspending operations due to the 2014 "protective edge" massacres
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the more i hear about this hitler guy, let me tell ya, the less i like him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:

the more i hear about this hitler guy, let me tell ya, the less i like him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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the "guidelines for re opening america" indicates that instead of the federal executive taking credit for america re opening, its going to be state executives taking the blame for lots more people dying, which is probably not a good sign, as far as signs go
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swampman posted:

the "guidelines for re opening america" indicates that instead of the federal executive taking credit for america re opening, its going to be state executives taking the blame for lots more people dying, which is probably not a good sign, as far as signs go


i don't think anyone knows anything, imo that's just the white house trying to pose as if they still have any authority or power and they're definitely responsible for making important decisions. states are sending national guard troops to escort PPE shipments to hospitals to protect them from federal seizure, they're making their own border control decisions... there's some real fucked momentum

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cant believe i got downvoted for referencing classic norm AND someone felt the need to explain the reference. you all have quarantine brain worms or something
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Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:

cant believe i got downvoted for referencing classic norm AND someone felt the need to explain the reference. you all have quarantine brain worms or something



weird last time I saw this kind of post it was with big sleep deprived anime eyes

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how to dramatically reveal coronavirus symptoms
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Flying_horse_in_saudi_arabia posted:

cant believe i got downvoted for referencing classic norm AND someone felt the need to explain the reference. you all have quarantine brain worms or something


sorry i didn't know you got Norm MacDonald down there

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I'm wondering what's going to happen if the virus stops spreading everywhere but the US. Like would that be enough to push the world towards delinking? Or would the US just force everyone to accept our tourists or w/e.
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lies half the time
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isnt that how it worked before
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corona virus will kill a lot of people and that is very sad, but on the other hand, askign his wifes daddy to order federal cops to steal medical equipment from hospitals and give it to his rich facebook friends to auction back to them is the only successful business idea jared kushner has ever had
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Georgia is basically opening up this Friday, all hair and nail salons, massage parlors, gyms, also dine in restaurants and movie theaters can open so long as they adhere to “social distancing” measures. The shelter in place order ends on the 30th.

Cases and deaths are literally speeding up and there hasn’t been anything close to a “peak” here.
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lies half the time
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-treatment-study

Researchers analyzed medical records of 368 male veterans hospitalized with confirmed coronavirus infection at Veterans Health Administration medical centers who died or were discharged by April 11.

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died too, but the difference between that group and usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.



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招瑤 posted:



Extra level of absurdity from this person holding up this sign wearing a mask

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#595
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overfire posted:

Extra level of absurdity from this person holding up this sign wearing a mask



not to mention their decision to express this as a fraction

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mt.real
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MarxUltor posted:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-treatment-studyResearchers analyzed medical records of 368 male veterans hospitalized with confirmed coronavirus infection at Veterans Health Administration medical centers who died or were discharged by April 11.

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died too, but the difference between that group and usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.



today i also watched the latest update from Didier Raoult (the French dr pushing this, about whom I've been posting a lot)


and it looks like their general mortality rate is the same as everyone's, ~2%, but they report their mortality rate with treatment to be 0.4%.

he points to this site that does regular global surveys of physicians to see sentiment & treatment efficacy https://app.sermo.com/covid19-barometer -- which I have done some digging into, and apparently it's a private forum where doctors "are anonymized by the use of usernames", but verified to be actual doctors, and it pays those doctors per post if lurkers (the pharma industry, primarily, afaict) judge their posts to be valuable in some way. i am trying to imagine how this would affect the posting dynamic, and i think the best way we could figure this out is if lurkers pay me $1 per post. until we are done that research, i just have to assume the sermo survey population is maybe ok but probably biased towards big pharma.

there's a lot of data in there on physicians' opinions of treatments, and some other info if you dig through the analyses, for example it seems that chloroquine is administered more broadly outside the US and seems to have some positive impact, but inside the US it seems to only be given to severe patients. And "April 17th key finding: 25% of global physicians agree that healthcare workers should take hydroxychloroquine to prevent COVID-19 infections." it doesn't seem to make sense for this website to be in the pocket of Big Chloroquine, since it's cheap as shit, but anything's possible

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i assume the ~2% they say there is the case fatality rate. might be worth mentioning that recent serological investigations are suggesting that the global infection fatality rate is closer to 0.3% because the majority of cases are mild (or asymptomatic) and are not being reported/recorded.

i've noticed that lots of liberals have in their mind that the world (their world, anyway) is going to have to shut down 12-18 months until a vaccine is developed. the culture war terrain of covid seems to be continuous cuz you see this familiar religious faith in "science" and you see anti-vaxxers being pre-scorned. the reality is there has never been a vaccine developed for a coronavirus so there's lots of uncharted territory and any sort of rushed vaccine could lead to disaster. probably not worth worrying about though because there's a chance this thing just kinda naturally gets extinguished and the deployment of a vaccine would be unnecessary and way too unprofitable
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drwhat posted:

i am trying to imagine how this would affect the posting dynamic, and i think the best way we could figure this out is if lurkers pay me $1 per post. until we are done that research, i just have to assume the sermo survey population is maybe ok but probably biased towards big pharma.


even just suggesting this violates 5 CFR 2635 shakin my damn head

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The leader of the most prominent group in the US peddling potentially lethal industrial bleach as a “miracle cure” for coronavirus wrote to Donald Trump at the White House this week.

In his letter, Mark Grenon told Trump that chlorine dioxide – a powerful bleach used in industrial processes such as textile manufacturing that can have fatal side-effects when drunk – is “a wonderful detox that can kill 99% of the pathogens in the body”. He added that it “can rid the body of Covid-19”.

A few days after Grenon dispatched his letter, Trump went on national TV at his daily coronavirus briefing at the White House on Thursday and promoted the idea that disinfectant could be used as a treatment for the virus. To the astonishment of medical experts, the US president said that disinfectant “knocks it out in a minute. One minute!”

He went on to say: “Is there a way we can do something, by an injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that.”


dear mister trump my name is molly candyflip, i am 23 year old egnlish comp student dressed like 7 year old girl, my people are suffering under cruel coronavirus regime and need 3,4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine. i beg you mister trump please send help