graphicalUSSRinterface posted:it is gone. if any curious zzoner wants to know about cia twitter marcyist type bullshit pm me
ok, i won't be doing that
lo posted:ok, i won't be doing that
i dont blame you.
graphicalUSSRinterface posted:two princes is now being posted about without my name attached to it by people i do not know, such as friends of friends. i really did it, i started a micromeme. congratulations, to myself
further, i checked the timestamps on the tweet that made me think such a thing and it has proven myself wrong! im cool and dont have brain problems of any kind.
swampman posted:Lurk more
im not sure if youre telling me im posting too much , or that my posting is bad , or that i embarrassingly revealed that i didnt know something above. in any case,
swampman posted:I mean read other peoples threads and posts instead of spamming posts about yourself to multiple threads. You registered an account here and immediately started this narcissistic campaign of eradicating all content that is not about your daily struggles instead of taking time to figure out what the prevailing social norms are, people have been very nice about that, I wish they hadnt been
thats pretty fair yeah and i realize ive been doing that, should probably dump this stuff somewhere else. i know its annoying and self-centered to an extreme and i ahte that shit when other people do it. part of me thinks the stuff i think about might be actually useful in some way because i think i figure out a lot through this kind of self-reflection and some of its interesting i guess but theres definitely a reason im hesitant to post aside from the stuff ive talked about and its because i know i shouldnt be dumping this shit everywhere, its disrespectful for several reasons. i dunno man. im sorry. i tend to do this, this wouldnt be the first time. maybe the best thing to do is to start a thread to post all this garbage in and people can read it if they want.. could just take it somewhere else as well. in any case yeah i pretty much agree with you
graphicalUSSRinterface posted:i spend a lot of time reading other peoples very personal stuff like this online too, not here of course because people dont post that way here, a lot of times people i dont know well even, because its extremely useful material for me to think about. i spend a ton of time looking through like uhh facebook/twitter profiles that are just venting, even if i dont know the person intimately or even at all, like i spend hours on end doing this. jsut fb stalking random people. adding random people. its really good fodder for thinking about how people think and put their ideas together, and where they come from. like jsut a ton of useful info
no its not. its unhealthy fodder and distracting info.
swampman posted:no its not. its unhealthy fodder and distracting info.
not if a good section of your entire posting gimmick is thinking about online narcissism, screen damage, pseudo-left ideology and schizophrenia in a way thats heavily influenced by TLP/chris lasch/arrghshell it isnt! read my posts
swampman posted:im not going to read your stream of consciousness posts about how you plan to stop avoiding your roommates sorry. not even if they're a reference to tpi/chris last/arsegel. if your facebook stalking of random people has revealed so much about screen damage and schizophrenia maybe make a thread to summarize your findings in one big ol'post.
aight well i cant help you there! to be generous i guess ill say that not everyone has been unemployed for their entire life and has time to waste refreshing 5 websites constantly, but if youre not even reading the stuff i post im more inclined to jsut not take your criticism all that seriously considering ive addressed everything youve said and i think in an interesting and responsible way. i will still read all of your posts though, as i enjoy them, i dont need you to like me back. but i do think theyre worth reading anyways, i think ive made some valuable points and i think other people enjoy them too, at least some of the time. but i might be biased because im the type of person to spend upwards of 12-24 hour stretches refreshing the same sites or chasing down twitter rabbitholes or whatever, and again i have the time to do so i guess. but i put a lot of time into this, so suit yourself
swampman posted:Look at the first post in this thread. Now look at your posts. Now look back at the first post in the thread. Now at yours again. Now at yours one more time. Now back at the OP. Now read the OP. Now look at your posts and read the oP again. Now look at the OP again and look at your posts again. Then re read the OP. Then look at your posts and read the OP and look at the OP one more time. CLose the OP, look at your posts, then open the OP and read it again. THen read it and re read your posts in light of the OP. Case closed. Just look at your posts and then look at the Op. See the difference yet? Try looking at both in order and yourll see what im talking about
read my posts and you will know why lmfao
graphicalUSSRinterface posted:[but i might be biased because im the type of person to spend upwards of 12-24 hour stretches refreshing the same sites or chasing down twitter rabbitholes or whatever, and again i have the time to do so i guess. but i put a lot of time into this, so suit yourself
Lot of time and zero effort. The thing is you don't have the time to do this, reality continues to happen while you live in this immensely unproductive way. And even though you can list your symptoms, and "agree" in a joking way that what you're doing is super unhealthy, in the end you'll make excuses for why you "should" keep posting because your posting has some kind of value. Except to you it actually has negative value, its harmful to you. Its worse for you that it exists.
swampman posted:Lot of time and zero effort. The thing is you don't have the time to do this, reality continues to happen while you live in this immensely unproductive way. And even though you can list your symptoms, and "agree" in a joking way that what you're doing is super unhealthy, in the end you'll make excuses for why you "should" keep posting because your posting has some kind of value. Except to you it actually has negative value, its harmful to you. Its worse for you that it exists.
alright well since i already talked about this a bit im probably not going to say it as well, and you refuse to look through my post hjistory so really have no choice but to repeat msyelf, but ive already stated that uhh the only reason i came here is because my other offsite which is a very different place from this one has had some people leave recently that made me migrate here. its not a politics discussion forum, its a community forum for people to talk to each other, tho politically its marxist and you cant get away with that shit there because those people dominate essentially. we have some very smart psoters in that regard and that was a big part of why i was there but it wasnt based around effortposts meant to like, educate or anything and theres a lot of discussion that is not political at all. one of the most active threads is centered around gaming, theres a huge thread where people just dump long posts about emotional/personal shit going on in their lives. these people ahve been my friends for 10 years now and some of tthem contribute meaningfully here too. i came here to make friends and the only reason i ever do effortposts is because it makes people like and/or trust me more and yeah my ultimate goal is to like be friends with people. theres nothing wrong with that. but the culture is very different anbd while i use this forum for research its not my primary goal. so like i dont know. maybe i should do twitter instead. who cares haha. at the same time i know a lot of stuff and my large effortpost about psychoanalysis i think was useful and a certain section of people like what i do post even if its a bit too frequent for the pace youd expect here. i was thinking about leaving and i have not. im still ad=justing and figuring out what i need to do to fit in here , considering the reasons why im even posdting in the first place. so whatever hahaha
I don't think you're getting the emotional support or fulfillment out of this community that you want/need and that's for two reasons: this isn't that kind of community and online forums are shitty at providing a genuine, loving community that helps people grow.
A big part of it is that posting is an act of performance for an audience. No matter the intentions of the person, we act differently knowing we are being watched by a large audience on a permanent record. It creates a reality TV show effect on relationships and communication.
Another part is that communication by text takes out a large part of communication so even when communities are organized around fulfilling emotional needs and friendships they are working on incomplete information.
You said you know what needs to be done, but you're unwilling or unable to make the changes necessary. I don't think you're going to find what you're looking for in front of a keyboard. I see a lot of similarities in how you think and post about this topic with how I thought when I was working to quit my alcohol addiction
pogfan1996 posted:I don't think you're getting the emotional support or fulfillment out of this community that you want/need and that's for two reasons: this isn't that kind of community and online forums are shitty at providing a genuine, loving community that helps people grow.
A big part of it is that posting is an act of performance for an audience. No matter the intentions of the person, we act differently knowing we are being watched by a large audience on a permanent record. It creates a reality TV show effect on relationships and communication.
Have you ever been part of an online community like that and have come to realize it was false, or do you just assume they don't exist? I would not be a communist without it and the poster that became an irl and was the only person there for me for years when I was coming out of my psychosis and I would say was instrumental in that process came from there. In some sense I was completely socialized online and I tend to associate that performativity and addictive potential with later websites which were designed to induce that kind of addiction. I feel like forums are a very different sort of place and that's one reason why even here is so different from Facebook or twitter. The format lends itself to a different type of interaction, which I'm sure you can surmise from your objections to my dopamine-addled Facebook poisoned mind shooting rapid fire responses. It upsets you, because you are a forumsposter and that seems wrong to you I'm sure. I get it yeah?
I am almost certain none of you know the extent of the isolation my upbringing brought on me despite having outlined it briefly in my psychosis thread. It was all I had and while in some ways I owe everything to it, I would not change it. Irl communities are very far behind what is online, in academia, in orgs, whatever. I've done both and while they have their advantages too , in terms of like, theoretical knowledge and sophistication they are lacking in the extreme. The knowledgeable people in these places engage online to learn. That's not addressing your objection but is more of a disgression. While online was a lifeline and I owe everything about who I am today to my friends it also isolates you IRL by getting you deeper and deeper in these niche styles of communication and humor and ways of thinking. To say that's not affecting to the point of formative would be a mistake because it absolutely is. It probably had a lot to do with , in my case, the form and nature of my psychosis, despite that likely being inevitable due to the circumstances of my birth one way or another.
People don't understand me and it's deeper than something that can be attributed to something relatively superficial like different interests, it's everything about me. I have been terminally logged on since the time I was capable of using a computer
There's a way of thinking that sees engagement with literature or any kind of reading material as an intimate engagement with another person's mind, in a very personal way. It's a way of learning the inside of another person that can't be done through speech, or face-to-face social interaction. So to see it as inherently fake or artificial discounts this important perspective which I think makes a ton of sense an explains why reading is so vital to becoming a real person. This argument existed before online was a thing and I feel like assuming text interactions are misleading or deceptive probably has a lot to do with growing up in a socially connected way. There's a lot of reasons people do not, and it's not always being terminally logged on. I'm sure you know someone like that and when I meet people of that sort, whatever manifestation of it it is, it's not surprising to find they have a very deep sort of humanity I guess. I don't know. Not to romanticize it. But this argument is forgotten.
pogfan1996 posted:I hope you find what you're looking for
This isn't very nice but I guess I shouldn't expect engagement with my ideas from anyone here at this point.