cars posted:

constant pressure everywhere that always churns fresh naive helpless meat into positions of power that is beholden directly to the United States, basic kids, multi denied opposition groups and loony Nazis, whatever, make sure the London educated banker squats are in charge, then those goofs get a foothold and start securing their local resources and acting independently to satisfy local constituencies that don't like the United States, start using their economies as tools of policy independent of the United States and its little quislings and the money, start acting less "liberal", then before anything like that can turn the United States presses again, the policy is very easy for State Department grad gimps to justify in terms of the self interest of the United States aligning with every virtue while the real policy is done over their heads to align with the security and defense agencies anfd you can see it all with julian assange, you will actually be able to smell his hair bleach on this adventure, you will hear the Jersey in the voice of the president of estonia and it will move you, to a bigger house

c_man posted:

im a member of the R->C->P

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wasted posted:

Edit: Does anyone know of people that write on MKultra that don't go into Alex Jones territory? What I've read so far is that the CIA started it as a cover story during the Korean War when troops were coming back basically saying that the military was carrying out live experiments with biological/chemical weapons and so they came up with the story that the Soviets had perfected a method of mind control so the troops would believe this (i.e. the plot of the Manchurian Candidate) so we should come up with some advanced form of perception management ourselves to beat the pinkos at their own game.

There's the documentary Wormwood. I skipped around and watched the Sy Hersh parts. I would look around for reporting from papers outside the U.S. on biological warfare in Korea and Manchuria which was widespread and forced the DPRK and Chinese armies to undertake massive countermeasures / medical infrastructure projects behind the front line to defend themselves from these attacks. The U.S. largely carried it out via air-dropped canisters filled with disease-carrying insects targeting the civilian population and water supplies. I've read the North Koreans have preserved some of these insects in the main military museum in Pyongyang and tourists have a hard time believing it's real, but it is and the North Koreans are telling the truth.

Hersh never comes out and says it outright but the implication in Wormwood is the CIA killed unreliable scientists who worked on the project but might tattle. The CIA dosed one scientist with LSD during a meeting and he freaked out, so the agency put him up in a hotel in New York while arranging for him to meet with a doctor, which was a lie, and then sent a kill team (basically just mafia thugs) to throw him out of the window. The kill team was compartmentalized and had no idea why they were doing it; they were just under orders to do it. MKULTRA -- that the CIA was experimenting with LSD on unwitting subjects -- was the cover story and the deaths were attributed to suicide when the press "discovered" the "truth" in the early 1970s. Very much concocting a conspiracy theory to cover up another conspiracy. Hersh's conclusion is that it doesn't really matter now though because the bad guys got away with it and nobody cares anymore.

Also for any lurkers with any lingering American nationalist tendencies who want to know what it's like to go insane and have your mind break, I would recommend this joint DPRK/China documentary which is a pretty extensive look at American insect terror warfare in the 1950s:

Edited by trakfactri (July 5, 2019 21:25:42)

Back in 2016, Emma Best filed a FOIA request for the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s files on the infamous white supremacist website Stormfront. After two and half years of processing, the FBI finally responded, releasing just 104 pre-processed pages.

What’s more, according to the cover letter accompanying the release, there were additional records, but the Bureau simply couldn’t find them.