mediumpig posted:

Based on the patterns I observe with these kind of events thus far, is it fair to guess that the NSA orchestrated the NHS attack through a third party with plausible deniability? Or orchestrated the "leaking/stealing" of the vulnerabilities? I'm also trying to imagine what the motive for such a move could be, perhaps just undermining the NHS in general. Or I'm looking too hard for something that's not there, I dunno.

as swampman said, the tools were released/leaked quite a while ago, it was only a matter of time until someone in the scene put together the infrastructure and planning to use them for a large scale attack.

besides, their usage in these attacks (as breaching tools to introduce a blind fire opportunistic ransomware worm) would be of absolutely no strategic use for the US. they prefer their tools to compromise systems and mine them for information long term, without anyone knowing, and to hold on to the possibility of a tactical lockout in a limited region/system during wartime or whatever. the NSA absolutely would not want these tools being circulated broadly and talked about like this because that neutralizes their efficacy.

what i'd really like to know is how they got leaked in the first place, the NSA spends billions developing these technologies and their security can only have gotten tighter in the wake of snowden/manning. my bet would be on one of the civilian contractors from tech companies that they collaborate with? in the contemporary corporate tech culture a lot of well paid pseudo-rebellious "hacker culture" bros accidentally wind up with security clearance as a subcontractor for a big project.

shriekingviolet posted:

what i'd really like to know is how they got leaked in the first place, the NSA spends billions developing these technologies and their security can only have gotten tighter in the wake of snowden/manning. my bet would be on one of the civilian contractors from tech companies that they collaborate with? in the contemporary corporate tech culture a lot of well paid pseudo-rebellious "hacker culture" bros accidentally wind up with security clearance as a subcontractor for a big project.

if you read the official press releaseTM from "the shadow brokers" when they release the tools themselves for free (and if you beleve they're sincere) because they were mad as hell about how trump betrayed the people who like alex jones,

its one of the most cringy thingys ive read, which is exactly what youd expect from a trump supporting techworker subcontracted to the govt

SELEcT QUOTES

Dear President Trump,

Respectfully, what the fuck are you doing? TheShadowBrokers voted for you. TheShadowBrokers supports you. TheShadowBrokers is losing faith in you. Mr. Trump helping theshadowbrokers, helping you. Is appearing you are abandoning “your base”, “the movement”, and the peoples who getting you elected.

Good Evidence:

#1 — Goldman Sach (TheGlobalists) and Military Industrial Intelligence Complex (MIIC) cabinet
#2 — Backtracked on Obamacare
#3 — Attacked the Freedom Causcus (TheMovement)
#4 — Removed Bannon from the NSC
#5 — Increased U.S. involvement in a foreign war (Syria Strike)

yuh huh

White Privilege
Dear Americans, do you seek black privileged, reparation, and free shit? TheShadowBrokers is having program for you, is calling it the “Obama Ticket.” The U.S. government will be setting aside 1 Trillion, made up, borrowed from ourselves, debased Federal Reserve dollars to be sending any American resident, who wishes, regardless of skin color, on an all expense paid, permanent trip to Africa. Be telling your friends. Be telling your family. Be taking as many of them (friends and family) with you. Some condition be applying, accepting an Obama Ticket automatically revokes your Unites States citizenship, your are not being allow to return, for one generation, no exceptions. Call 1–800–555–1212

hmm

Mr. President Trump theshadowbrokers sincerely is hoping you are being the real deal and that you received this as constructive criticism toward #MAGA. Some American’s consider or maybe considering TheShadowBrokers traitors. We disagreeing. We view this as keeping our oath to protect and defend against enemies foreign and domestic. TheShadowBrokers wishes we could be doing more, but revolutions/civil wars taking money, time, and people. TheShadowBrokers has is having little of each as our auction was an apparent failure. Be considering this our form of protest. The password for the EQGRP-Auction-Files is CrDj”(;Va.*NdlnzB9M?@K2)#>deB7mN

lmao

President Trump, theshadowbrokers is offering our services to you and your administration. Did you know most of theshadowbrokers’ members have taken the oath “…to protect and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic…”. Yes sir! Most of us used to be TheDeepState everyone is talking about. But we realized TheDeepState is being the enemy of the constitution, individualism, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. With the right funding we can recruit some of the best hacker intel peoples in United States and world.

*scoffs*

Globalism
If Globalism is being so cool and awesome, why all the peoples come to only one country, American? Isn’t that being opposite of globalism? If globalism shouldn’t all peoples be staying in own countries and America be exporting culture and ideas to them? If cultures, beliefs, and philosophies of Africa, Asia, and India is being so cool and awesome, why isn’t everyone immigrating there? Because its not and they aren’t. European or Western Culture has proven is being best and most dominant, nothing to do with skin colors, white, brown, yellow, but is having to do with being red. No not red communism, red as in blood. European ancestors did the work, the thinking, the rebelling, the fighting, the killing, and the dying. Sometimes they being on rite side of history and sometimes not, but result is being great culture and society. “But, America is nation of immigrants!” Yes, but until 30 years ago most immigrants being Europeans. Jeudeo-Christian Europeans minor cultural differences. Don’t bring the world to America, bring America to the world. America first. English first. American workers first. American students first. American culture first.

*dies*

Edited by tears (May 19, 2017 17:59:53)

toyotathon posted:

did they run that through online translators to dust their tracks, or whatever? that writing makes it sound like english isn't their first language

the cutting edge of cyber security research has theorised that its a russian accent, and therefor a russian hack

glomper_stomper posted:

color revolutions are really cool because they've successfully propagandized this idea among the pro-imperialist shithead "left" that we just need horizontalist tahrir square type situation where a lot of people stay in one place and act real angry while pushing maybe like one or zero demands. the total lack of any ideological cohesion or "armed vanguard" means the CIA can insert fascists, military fascists, and liberal charlatans dependent on fascists into the vacuum. and this also cripples any kind of potential coalition work with the vast majority of "radicals" in klan kountry

Not only that, the U.S. State Department funds and promotes most of that tepid horizontalism through various direct and laundered grants, creating over a few months or even weeks a place where they can slot violent anti-government proxy forces. Look at the social media of an "activist-journalist" and much of the money behind their resume comes from U.S. State, many times because they're the only game in town, although they funnel the cash through a number of "local" groups.

tears posted:

the wikipedia article on the murder of seth rich is one of my favorites because it deflects legitimate concern that seth rich was murdered for political reasons with a conspiracy theory about russia hacking the US election

"the consiracy theories that seth rich was murdered by the deep state have been debunked by the cia, you can all go home now"

it also says later on that there was no way that he could have preformed such a l33t file copying operation because he couldnt even hack the gibson

otoh it mostly seems to be right-wing people replacing the stupid conspiracy theory that russia hacked the elections with an even stupider conspiracy theory that the DNC murdered some low-level staffer over an email leak

tears posted:

who really knows, aerdil *shrugging* but he wouldnt be the first person to be murdered by a government

if seth rich leaking relatively innocuous emails is the point at which u get selected for murder then the FEMA camp coffins should be about half full by now

toyotathon posted:

there aren't a lot of people who know who leaked the emails, but one of them's assange,

has this really been established? why would assange get to automatically know the true source of everything that passes through wikileaks just because he's nominally in charge. i sure wouldn't put my faith as a whistleblower in the security and trustworthiness of a public celebrity with a clear appetite for attention who also happened to be under house arrest. it's the kind of thing the press will just take for granted because they have swiss cheese for brains, but why should we assume?