#1481
proyect>?
#1482
i just want to get on record that panopticon is a good poster, and handsome
#1483
Thats him alright
What else does he have to say?




#1484
i have a giant bud light sign in my MANPAD
#1485
seems v plausible

https://gosint.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/former-dia-colonel-us-strikes-on-a-syria-based-on-a-lie/ posted:

Here is what happened.

1. The Russians briefed the United States on the proposed target. This is a process that started more than two months ago. There is a dedicated phone line that is being used to coordinate and deconflict (i.e., prevent US and Russian air assets from shooting at each other) the upcoming operation.

2. The United States was fully briefed on the fact that there was a target in Idlib that the Russians believes was a weapons/explosives depot for Islamic rebels.

3. The Syrian Air Force hit the target with conventional weapons. All involved expected to see a massive secondary explosion. That did not happen. Instead, smoke, chemical smoke, began billowing from the site. It turns out that the Islamic rebels used that site to store chemicals, not sarin, that were deadly. The chemicals included organic phosphates and chlorine and they followed the wind and killed civilians.

4. There was a strong wind blowing that day and the cloud was driven to a nearby village and caused casualties.

5. We know it was not sarin. How? Very simple. The so-called “first responders” handled the victims without gloves. If this had been sarin they would have died. Sarin on the skin will kill you. How do I know? I went through “Live Agent” training at Fort McClellan in Alabama.

There are members of the U.S. military who were aware this strike would occur and it was recorded. There is a film record. At least the Defense Intelligence Agency knows that this was not a chemical weapon attack. In fact, Syrian military chemical weapons were destroyed with the help of Russia.


stripped out most of the hyperbole there.

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#1486
L-Proy, leaving no well unpoisoned since that time Debby dumped him and a Hare Krishna TKO'd him outside a grocery store
#1487

ArisVelouchiotis posted:


You definitely shopped that shirt in right. I want it

#1488
collection of info on the chemical attacks in syria

http://bl.ocks.org/anonymous/raw/12343adfc96f228ae24e84ac3fe0a1d6/
#1489

FUCK OFF AMERIKKA
#1490
Anyone post the Syria archive on here yet? Google drive, but

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mShFqjzx5tI4zfuiD46iqb4q4Hki8aIzHJF1koD4Z8A/edit?usp=drivesdk
#1491
#1492
how the fuck can people be so dense as to uphold a woman as an enemy of Trump when she is literally executing bombing runs on his behalf
#1493

Belphegor posted:

how thtbspe fuck can people be so dense as to uphold a woman as an enemy of Trump when she is literally executing bombing runs on his behalf


it's a living

#1494
haha that is so perfectly emblematic of liberal identity politics. i'm surprised jessica valenti didn't write it
#1495
Are you sure a right wing Trump person didn't write it to rebut liberal attacks that they don't like women and turn the idea on its head
#1496
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/04/11/facing-pressure-from-trump-kim-jong-un-and-bashar-al-assad-reaffirm-their-nations-friendship solidarity
#1497

your_not_aleksandr posted:

"Assad is worse than Hitler because Hitler never gassed soldiers" is, like, the stupidest thing I've ever read and viscerally upsets me.

sean spicer reiterated this thought today as official US position so in actuality it is NOW the stupidest thing i've ever read.

#1498
Youch! That's some Spicy stuff!
#1499
#1500
Sean Spicer just blabbed to a bunch of reporters that U.S. policy is to "destabilize Syria" and "destabilize the region"

1) happy to have a link to post at people who still call me a conspiracy theorist for saying that,
2) i'd expect another, but smaller-scale hit on the administration from U.S. investigation/intelligence agencies for finally conforming to their policy but in a way that exposes its underlying aim to the public,
3) buy that man an Account
#1501
he was so caught up in explaining why assad is Worse than hitler because hitler never gassed anyone he accidentally gave the gameplan away

#1502
and also the stupid hitler line is what's getting endlessly repeated and scoffed at by msm and grassroots liberals alike

forest from the trees, every single time
#1503
i fucking hope this is true

Amid complaints that his aides are saying different things about Syria and his policy is confusing, President Trump emphatically cleared the air.

“We’re not going into Syria,” he told me yesterday in an exclusive interview. “Our policy is the same — it hasn’t changed. We’re not going into Syria.”

The president, speaking by phone Tuesday, called Syrian President Bashar al-Assad a “butcher” and a “barbarian” for using sarin gas on his own people, but said last week’s successful missile strike was not the start of a campaign to oust the dictator.

“Our big mission is getting rid of ISIS,” Trump said. “That’s where it’s always been. But when you see kids choking to death, you watch their lungs burning out, we had to hit him and hit him hard.”
#1504
lol seen this:
#1505
What can even be said about this level of cynicism, this is pure fucking gibberish and evil
#1506
Nasrallah smirkin' and playing with his cue cards like Letterman
#1507
Listened to the latest War Nerd podcast, and they're saying they think that it came from a rogue element in the SAA. This is after going through all the reasons why the attack was suspicious and why the political leadership understands that such an attack would be disadvantageous. It seems according to their source air to ground munitions is the only plausible explanation for the weapons delivery. Any thoughts?
#1508
cutting edge political analysis from the iso

Just two days earlier, the Trump administration had announced that its priority was not the ouster of Assad. Once the Assad regime's chemical bombing delivered a blow to the credibility of U.S. imperialism, however, the decision was made to strike Assad's air base. In order to calm some dissent within the Republican Party's leadership, Trump had to show that, contrary to Obama, he had some "red lines."

Furthermore, given the daily new revelations about the Trump administration's close ties to Putin's Russia and the ways in which these revelations have seriously damaged its credibility even among its supporters, the missile strike in Syria was a way for this administration to partially distance itself from Russia

#1509
#1510
It honestly baffles me that a leftist organization looks at the media reporting on idlib and goes "well that was a devastating blow to US imperialism"

The gulf of Tonkin: devastating blow to US imperialism
#1511

marimite posted:

Listened to the latest War Nerd podcast, and they're saying they think that it came from a rogue element in the SAA. This is after going through all the reasons why the attack was suspicious and why the political leadership understands that such an attack would be disadvantageous. It seems according to their source air to ground munitions is the only plausible explanation for the weapons delivery. Any thoughts?



was their source present at the site in question shortly after the event?

because that's the main problem with most of the people claiming to know something about it, either they're groups that have been calling for the destruction of Syria's government long before this or they're working the dubious Brown Moses method of looking solely at the propaganda of those biased parties and rendering a verdict from behind a monitor.

War Nerd often has some good stuff and a healthy dose of critical thought lacking in mainstream sources, but like anyone else doing what they do, they kind of have a requirement to put an "expert" point of view on their podcast that waxes dramatic about any current issue whether or not the guest would know enough about it to make that worthwhile, and War Nerd has the added rep to maintain of advancing weird & new POVs on issues.

#1512

ilmdge posted:

What can even be said about this level of cynicism, this is pure fucking gibberish and evil



Just like the Obama administration and its repeat pushes over the years for support to escalate its clandestine attacks on Syria into forms of aggression they could never manage to keep secret, I imagine the U.S. government will continue to try the "Assad secretly craves victory by the people who are trying to kill him and smash Damascus" line, with different and contradictory reasons offered each time, until it sticks. And just like that previous push, they'll likely run up against Syrian and Russian diplomatic savvy that no one in the U.S. government or press seems to expect, even now.

#1513
the war nerd guy seems to be just racist & lazy towards the syrian gov, if he has ever investigated/commented on anything involving them not based on the supposition that syrians are mindless beasts i would like to see it


pogfan1996 posted:

cutting edge political analysis from the iso



at least the islamic state organisation have toned down their sectarian language a bit

#1514

xipe posted:

the islamic state organisation



lmao

#1515

xipe posted:

the war nerd guy seems to be just racist & lazy towards the syrian gov, if he has ever investigated/commented on anything involving them not based on the supposition that syrians are mindless beasts i would like to see it



He's been pro-assad (as in, anyone but assad winning would be awful for the people of Syrria )since like... the Syrian civil war really began, and it became clear that the Free Syrian Army was rebranded al-qaeda.

A few episodes he and ames covered a book th British empires entanglement with fundamentalist islam, and pointed out that the syrian state is the last remnant of secular, Arab socialism/nationalism that exists in the ME

are you parodying some twittrr libreal making an absurd hot take or something??

#1516
i dont follow dolan's podcast but iirc a lot of his writing about MENA has lots of references to how Tribes are the end-all be-all of local politics, which is...really bad
#1517

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9OyRKiVwAEospt.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9OyPg0UAAAiHPK.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9OyTomUIAAjp3D.jpg

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#1518
is postol the same guy who was taking shots at brown moses over ghouta? that guy owned

e: yeah he was
#1519
Came across this piece recently which kind of goes in both directions (anti Assad but...). It does a good job of exposing the language of American exceptionalism per se. http://souciant.com/2017/04/the-lefts-neocons/
#1520
Came across this piece recently which kind of goes in both directions (anti Assad but...). It does a good job of exposing the language of American exceptionalism per se. http://souciant.com/2017/04/the-lefts-neocons/