i hope you enjoy some of the selections
Skylark posted:sorry buddy we use Kik... And im making fun ofyou in the rhizzone kik grouptext as we speak
kik is for furries and terrorists, while telegram has a respectable user base including spart-aligned factions and sexual minorities
getfiscal posted:Normally we post these sorts of threads in the sticker, smiley and emoji subforum.
what? let me in you FUCK
fape posted:I checked out telegram and all 2 of the leftist chat rooms on there were full of people who believe that "Fully automated luxury communism", is not only an intelligible ideology, but actually the only acceptable end goal of a socialist revolution
i always figure people are saying that partly ironically but it still annoys me, same as "space communism" or whatever it is people always say.
@moondog5678 "appropriately automated sustainably equitable communism" has no ring tho.+ as pomo tells us words dont actually mean anything
— Cam Fantastic (@CamFantastic1) September 12, 2016
fape posted:I checked out telegram and all 2 of the leftist chat rooms on there were full of people who believe that "Fully automated luxury communism", is not only an intelligible ideology, but actually the only acceptable end goal of a socialist revolution
having robots do all the work and then killing the elitist intellectuals that own them is Extremely My Shit
Even my friends that pursue farming vocationally are priced out by gentrification and fall constantly deeper into debt just by trying to farm kale for farmer's markets. In short, you cannot save the countryside.
I mean there's no way you could realistically organize an entire society around the idea of automation and making labor obsolete. The second you start to think about any aspect of it in depth you realize how impossible it would be, like, how would you even get the metals you need to build all of the robots doing the work for you? How would things like courts, education, or even like building houses or running restaurants and grocery stores work without even half of the human labor thats currently required to operate them. its totally thoughtless
fape posted:Yea I can't help but imagine some ridiculous Jetsons shit or like that nanowrimo libertarian utopia where people launch themselves out of cannons or whatever, but rebranded as socialism.
I mean there's no way you could realistically organize an entire society around the idea of automation and making labor obsolete. The second you start to think about any aspect of it in depth you realize how impossible it would be, like, how would you even get the metals you need to build all of the robots doing the work for you? How would things like courts, education, or even like building houses or running restaurants and grocery stores work without even half of the human labor thats currently required to operate them. its totally thoughtless
otoh it doesn't surprise me that people who are uncomfortable working with others face-to-face to achieve socialism require the re-imagining of socialism to remove humans as an element, or vice versa
cars posted:the whole cluster of NYC demsoc online intellectuals seems desperately, collectively terrified it will be found out as something bad. what exactly beyond their already fully public lives as yuppies, i don't know, but they're prematurely hyper-defensive about it in their public presence in a queasy kind of way. it's like they mix up authenticity and proletarian identity and are suppressing self-loathing, or they think that everyone else mixes up the two and they're the last defenders of the distinction and thus of their own existence under a later socialist system, or something. i don't know really, i have been trying lately not just to assume they are bad faith opportunists.
a lot of that crew have a simultaneous fetish of bougie cosmopolitan life while feeling they are required to criticize the excesses of bougie cosmopolitan life and this mutates into idiots like fuckt heory havinbg meltdowns that there are farmers in the hinterlands who vote.
uyltimately most of those people just want said hinterlanders to die because they have an inconvenient proletarian identity that isn't living in an apartment going to DSA meetings and whose revolutionary attitude is saying bad words at a republican on the subway.
cars posted:the whole cluster of NYC demsoc online intellectuals seems desperately, collectively terrified it will be found out as something bad. what exactly beyond their already fully public lives as yuppies, i don't know, but they're prematurely hyper-defensive about it in their public presence in a queasy kind of way. it's like they mix up authenticity and proletarian identity and are suppressing self-loathing, or they think that everyone else mixes up the two and they're the last defenders of the distinction and thus of their own existence under a later socialist system, or something. i don't know really, i have been trying lately not just to assume they are bad faith opportunists.
it's impostor syndrome but for deserving to survive instead of career success
Gssh posted:I suspect a lot of adherents to FALC don't have much of a connection to related fields beyond following tech blogs. Any faith I had in technology has quickly eroded the more I have had to work with it.
i talked to a couple of people yesterday because i didn't really even understand what the term meant other than robotized utopianism and it turns out that for those two at least it means robotized utopianism as imagined by people who don't understand economies of scale in manufacturing. they were very nice but it was the same vibe as I get from the Kurzweil cult, like they were imagining this steepening curve of Technology with buzzwords like "3D printing" and "open source" arranged along it at arbitrary positions and the x-axis was time and instead of the y-axis being the Singularity it was labeled "?????"