drwhat posted:i went on a few dates with someone who works at in "private intelligence"
*opens drwhat.xls, scrawls "CIA ASSET" at the top*
Here's a interview with Max where he mentions that.
It's a bit scummy that he talks about his work but not that such work is just inferior copies of what Vanessa berley wrote years ago
c_man posted:posting selfies is bad opsec
i only know two guys as cool as that guy and yes, one of them is me
The man supposedly wrote a white paper for intelligence people and policy makers that was the inspiration for the Iran-Contra deal, in which the Reagan administration sold arms to Iran in exchange for hostages and money. They used the money to fund the Contras to fight the Sandinista.
Anyways I don't want to let him get a free pass while he is here and I want to get up in his grill a bit. Does the Rhizzone have any messages I might pass on to this spook?
People will come up to you after class, and you can form a cell... Then one day that cell will be strong enough that its kidnapping those cia guys and posting pictures of them tied up under a red banner with a gun to their head like they do in Turkey.
Maybe remembering that will give you confidence in public speaking, like imagining everyone in their underwear
Dude: "You haven't done your research here. Listen, young man. What's your name? .. OK , Belphegor, here's the thing, I've been in this business a long time... "
Me: "THE BOSTON BOMBER IS YOUR GRAND-NEPHEW INLAW!!!! WERE OUTTA HERE!
Petrol posted:Ask him why he isn't locked up indefinitely in a military prison for betraying the United States of America by selling arms to Iran
Yeah that;'s actually pretty good
I wish there was a way I could make him feel unwelcome without making myself look ignorant - I go to a small school and this guy is really buddy buddy with some of the profs here.
The walk out thing hasn't really panned out, everyone I've approached hasn't been down and I won't be able to track down the rest before tmrw morning.
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Is this just a guest lecture for your class, or a larger public event that your class happens to be involved with/attending? If it's the former and you want to go the major effort path, you might be able to scrounge up some organized protest from leftist orgs on campus, or even from the broader community if you live in a decent town and can make a couple connections. I assume you're not at a US university/college, so a lot of orgs don't actually need it spelled out to them that a CIA snake should be denied a warm welcome on campus. Depending on the composition of your campus there might be groups that already take an active operational interest in this kind of thing. Print out some pamphlets on the Iran-contra affair for bonus points.
Of course if the event is like, next week, that's not enough time to organize unless you get someone influential reallll excited. A quicker, smaller scale version is to compile a list of good insult questions/accusations (like the ones people have been talking about in this thread) and coordinate them with other people: a smug practiced rebuttal is really effective against a single lonely dissenter, but gets weaker the more people hammer on a similar note. If you do this, please don't sit together, spread out and look inoffensive until question period starts, and if you only have a few people don't applaud each other or it'll be really obvious whose questions to ignore. Then just sit back and bask in your newfound ostracism from respectable academia.
If you don't know anyone who can help you with any of the above, join an org so you will next time!
swampman posted:This kind of shithead is a parto f university academics,
This is true and trying to oppose it is a thankless uphill slog, but influencing what is considered acceptable on campus or at other public events in your community is possible and can actually mitigate the normalization of spook mass murderers getting cozy motivational speaker gigs. Pick your battles, but you'll never win a fight where you don't show up.
Guyovich posted:drwhat posted:
i went on a few dates with someone who works at in "private intelligence"
*opens drwhat.xls, scrawls "CIA ASSET" at the top*
i am definitely the most likely to be one here, that should have been there already. this is obviously a sign that you aren't on the rhizzone often enough
Belphegor posted:Really appreciate the input from everybody, particularly shriekingviolet for typing all that out. Unfortunately, the guest lecture is tomorrow and it is in a seminar class that I don't attend (I have received permission to audit the class, though). I don't really have anyone I can call on, at least not on this brief notice. I'll probably abort mission. The good news is this guy gets trotted out a couple of times a year because he lives in town. I can hopefully get a little more forewarning next time. I think putting out pamphlets about the Iran-Contra deal and the CIA's crimes during Fuller's time in the intelligence world would be more than enough to get a few of my peers interested in doing something.
Yeah don't disrupt a class you'r auditing, just drop out of the class and tell the professor you are disappointed in the content. and demand reparations for indigenous peoples
xipe posted:Related to this: are CIA and state objectives and methods very different?
They're two heads of the same snake, their objectives are identical and their functioning inseparable.
Their methods are different in that State Department is relatively transparent and much less clandestine, it's surprisingly easy to find out what they're doing at any given time. CIA activities of course involve direct paramilitary action, sabotage, assassinations etc that you won't find USDS directly participating in but rather supporting through its various other functions. State Department of course maintains an absolutely enormous and very visible global propaganda apparatus dwarfed only by the private one (the lines between which are obviously blurred). To the best of my knowledge CIA propaganda these days is almost all black and black budgeted, and generally smaller scale and more targeted/focused on specific shorter term operations
not sure where else to put this (maybe there should be a 'collapse' thread) but it is conspiracy substrate
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/pentagon-video-warns-of-unavoidable-dystopian-future-for-worlds-biggest-cities/