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Petrol posted:the thread so nice he posted it twice!
technology fails us again. time to depose catman from his golden throne
c_man posted:the US is a place where the only time people talk about expanding public transport are as some sort of scifi-level achievement a la hyperloop but self-driving cars are just common sense
i think hyperloop is pure FUD to undermine any idea of public transit in california to sell more teslas
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:c_man posted:the US is a place where the only time people talk about expanding public transport are as some sort of scifi-level achievement a la hyperloop but self-driving cars are just common sense
i think hyperloop is pure FUD to undermine any idea of public transit in california to sell more teslas
my assumption is that it's effectively going to play out as a cash grab aimed at libertarian optimists
i bet this cocksucker would claim he's 5 years away from a teleporter if he didn't think it would depress auto sales
Petrol posted:to contribute: i fucking hate the robot cars.
if it reduces the amount of deaths from car crashes isn't that a good thing? if public transportation isn't going to expand under capitalism then we might as well improve the current situation.
roseweird posted:given current technology the only way robot cars would reduce deaths from crashes would be if a transportation network were created and regulated and controlled and human drivers, if not outright prohibited, required to drive vehicles regulated for optimal machine visibility, or vehicles required to be connected to the automated network to try to minimize unpredictability, or legally required to have an automatic override as a safety precaution against dangerous or incapacitated drivers.
yeah, it looks like most of the problems stem from how the sensors react to unknown objects/situations. maybe it will end up being accessible only in cities and major roads
Limitations
As of August 28, 2014, according to Computer World Google's self-driving cars were in fact unable to use about 99% of US roads. As of the same date, the latest prototype had not been tested in heavy rain or snow due to safety concerns. Because the cars rely primarily on pre-programmed route data, they do not obey temporary traffic lights and, in some situations, revert to a slower "extra cautious" mode in complex unmapped intersections. The vehicle has difficulty identifying when objects, such as trash and light debris, are harmless, causing the vehicle to veer unnecessarily. Additionally, the lidar technology cannot spot some potholes or discern when humans, such as a police officer, are signaling the car to stop. Google projects having these issues fixed by 2020.
-The manufacture and use of automobiles, and oil derivatives to run them, are a major contributing factor in making the earth inhospitable to human life
-Daily use of private automobiles increases social isolation, aggressive behavior, fatness of citizens, wastes thousands of hours of human life in commute
-Metal objects weighing two tons and travelling many meters per second horizontally require huge quantities of space and asphalt and are a constant threat to human life
-Many people are required to use a private car to hold a job, but can barely afford the costs
-Some dweeb made it illegal to play candy crush on the I-5
odobenidae posted:My favourite techno-fetishist solution to an entrenched social problem is eliminating world poverty by teaching kids in third world countries to code. Techno-colonialism.
look at this shit
swirlsofhistory posted:Public transportation increases my social isolation, aggressiveness, and wastes triple the amount of time a car does. Buses are particularly bad for either being human sardine cans or almost completely empty and wasting a ton of fuel and generally making right turns a pain in the ass. I witnessed a bus crush a cyclists body under its front tire, which for the first time made me feel a bit of sympathy for their species.
tangential to this, this is another topic tech fetishists masturbate about that i don't get. what's so great about self-driving cars?
you wouldn't even need to own a car! a car could just come to where you are, pick you up, drop you off wherever, then it could take you back later! also during the trip you could just relax, do work, whatever
like a cab?
no, not like a cab. it's less expensive and can move a lot more people per hour!
so like a bus.
no, not like a bus. this would be just for you, and could pick you up right at your front door!
wouldn't it be optimal in terms of time, money and energy if the cars picked us up at designated times at designated stops to make sure they were packing as many of us in as quickly as possible?
yes, but you could get to your destination way faster than driving!
like a bullet train?
yes, but this requires less infrastructure!
just tens of millions of brand new cars.
right!
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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:swirlsofhistory posted:Public transportation increases my social isolation, aggressiveness, and wastes triple the amount of time a car does. Buses are particularly bad for either being human sardine cans or almost completely empty and wasting a ton of fuel and generally making right turns a pain in the ass. I witnessed a bus crush a cyclists body under its front tire, which for the first time made me feel a bit of sympathy for their species.
tangential to this, this is another topic tech fetishists masturbate about that i don't get. what's so great about self-driving cars?
you wouldn't even need to own a car! a car could just come to where you are, pick you up, drop you off wherever, then it could take you back later! also during the trip you could just relax, do work, whatever
like a cab?
no, not like a cab. it's less expensive and can move a lot more people per hour!
so like a bus.
no, not like a bus. this would be just for you, and could pick you up right at your front door!
wouldn't it be optimal in terms of time, money and energy if the cars picked us up at designated times at designated stops to make sure they we packing as many of us in as quickly as possible?
yes, but you could get to your destination way faster than driving!
like a bullet train?
yes, but this requires less infrastructure!
just tens of millions of brand new cars.
right!
It was too optimistic to think that technology would help diminish the amount of centralization and daily migration required to make our civilization shamble on.
I watched a news story today about people complaining about other people using Walmart parking lots as places to live in their cars. One of the guys interviewed held a job but couldn't afford to sleep anywhere but his car. Fast forward ten years into the future and his car would alert him that he has exceeded his three hour maximum in the lot and automatically drive itself to an impound yard. I hope tow truck drivers are updating their resumes.
swirlsofhistory posted:I watched a news story today about people complaining about other people using Walmart parking lots as places to live in their cars. One of the guys interviewed held a job but couldn't afford to sleep anywhere but his car.
Sad, isn't it? And to think, he could've had a high paying job making software for self-driving cars if only he'd been taught how to code
fuck off nerds:
hell yeah:
Petrol posted:Take note swirls: thats how to make a good (not great, but passable) post, you piece of shit. you cunt
Nah
swirlsofhistory posted:Petrol posted:Take note swirls: thats how to make a good (not great, but passable) post, you piece of shit. you cunt
Nah
can we just ifap this guy? this forum has never been about having the maximum number of posters and his presence is triggering me
