thirdplace posted:drwhat posted:yes, exactly, this whole catastrophe of an election cycle seems like an excellent opportunity to point out all the transparency equivalencies in the party's positions. no one you'd ever want to talk to for more than ten seconds wants either candidate in power. the conversation writes itself
too bad 90% of the opposition to one of those candidates boils down to mommie issues instead of anything real or important
what if i love my mommy
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That's because whoever is head hitler, top tojo, or master mussolini does not act as the motor of history the way that bourgeois thinking poisons our minds to believe. Only the people have the power to effect change.
And I don't just mean that as another line of Marxist propaganda. I know people here know this, but it bears repeating: even if we're talking about the implementation of progressive reforms under capitalist rule (e.g. the civil rights act, roe v. wade) these changes are always accompanied by a massive outpouring of struggle waged not by politicians, but by the people using both legal and extralegal means of resistance.
Change only comes when the movement behind that change becomes a threat to the existing order, not because someone is elected who 'really gets it'.
What I'm saying is that what happens in the streets in the next four years is going to matter a lot more than whichever person is sitting in the chair sneering down on the people in the streets. If a Trump presidency is met with massive resistance by the undocumented, then he will probably end up deporting a lot fewer people than a Clinton presidency that simply continues the Obama status quo and is not met by a rising fightback.
That's why our orientation has to be towards the people, and why I think it's disingenuous to claim that a Clinton presidency will definitely be less repressive than a Trump one. We have to make that determination, but we can't make it via the ballot.
gyrofry posted:I love goatstein's mom and I Vote
that's nice.
thirdplace posted:lol you don't really think anyone else in this country hates hillary because she's a warthirsty imperialist with buckets of blood on her hands, do you goat? they hate her because vilerat died and because of she deleted e-mails to cover up her nefarious betrayals of are troops, and that's if you take their pretenses seriously, which you shouldn't
i think hillary's hawkishness is indeed a major factor as to why those of the left dislike her, yes.
EmanuelaBrolandi posted:if you think who is president matters you are an Idiot.
check your privilege.
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Trump: "Blood... darkness... come unto me!"
Hillary: "Squirm!, scream!"
swirlsofhistory posted:Stephen Colbert Says He Wants to Ask Trump "What Putin's Cock Taste's Like?"
Part of the "Trump and Putin are in love" theory is that Trump denies ever meeting Putin, but they actually met one time, on the set of 60 Minutes, which is a much closer relationship than Trump has had with any other polit 
c_man posted:Welcome back to the stage of history. Trump Vs Hillary....Fight!!
Trump: "Blood... darkness... come unto me!"
Hillary: "Squirm!, scream!"
i get this ref.
HenryKrinkle posted:looking forward to Hillary being American history's greatest anti-fascist hero
someone ask her what her position is re: poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes
TG posted:if trump wins and makes any moves to stop the us from starting a new war or "intervention" the cia/fbi/mafia? will secretly recruit an undocumented immigrant or muslim or some such person and put a rifle in their hands and they will mysteriously get close enough to trump to shoot him dead and then president mike pence will start an invasion before trumps body cools
hopefully one of his yesmen has already thought of this and will use trump billions to have an independently owned and financed personal defence force
"The Secret Service will continue to be responsible for the wide variety of other tasks they have always been responsible for," said our Leader's personal representative. "Our Leader has the personal resources to contribute in this way and save America important tax dollars, which can be redirected to Make America Great Again."
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:i get this ref.
all i can ask is that someone get my ref. thank u
drwhat posted:TG posted:if trump wins and makes any moves to stop the us from starting a new war or "intervention" the cia/fbi/mafia? will secretly recruit an undocumented immigrant or muslim or some such person and put a rifle in their hands and they will mysteriously get close enough to trump to shoot him dead and then president mike pence will start an invasion before trumps body cools
hopefully one of his yesmen has already thought of this and will use trump billions to have an independently owned and financed personal defence force
"The Secret Service will continue to be responsible for the wide variety of other tasks they have always been responsible for," said our Leader's personal representative. "Our Leader has the personal resources to contribute in this way and save America important tax dollars, which can be redirected to Make America Great Again."
How come you'd think this would be good if Hugo Chavez would do it but you think its worth making fun of trump if he'd do it. Once again, we see that the Left are spineless intellectual wussies with no greater true ideology than to cheer lead their celebrities, like Stalin, Jon Stewart, Hillary Clinton, Zach De La Rocha, etc.
The Clinton campaign is now using the slogan "She's With Us" rather than "I'm With Her," a response to Trump's excellent mockery.
Valentina Tereshkova was in space in 1963. What's wrong with your stupid countryhttps://t.co/jwmqtYVILN
— Drapeau Rouge (@ledrapeaurouge) July 28, 2016
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HenryKrinkle posted:https://twitter.com/ledrapeaurouge/status/758454702967181313
I'm sure this story is...what's the opposite of apocryphal? Pocryphal?
HenryKrinkle posted:https://twitter.com/ledrapeaurouge/status/758454702967181313
This girl wanted to go on a roller coaster; a sign said she was too short. Tonight we submit her job application for drone murder approval specialist.
This girl wanted cake; her mother said she had to eat her dinner first. Tonight we seek to appoint her to the office where she can impose crippling sanctions and deny millions of children around the world their dinners, allowing them to eat cake
5:45 one of the guys being blocked out by seatfillers says hes from the San Diego district and represents 200,000 voters
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SIMFEROPOL, July 28. /TASS/. Republican nominee Donald Trump’s promise to recognize Crimea as part of Russia testifies to a drift towards mending ties with Russia in the US, Crimean leader Sergey Aksyonov said on Thursday.
"Trump says only what his voters want to hear. This means there is a desire to improve ties with Russia in American society," Aksyonov wrote on Facebook.
However, at the moment Trump is only a presidential hopeful, while his speeches are part of election campaign rhetoric, Aksyonov said. "We don’t know how he will behave if he wins the election," he wrote.
"The Crimean people don’t need recognition from Western leaders. We have made our choice once and for all," he went on. "If part of the US political establishment, such as Trump, is ready to recognize the reality, we can only welcome this," he said.
On Wednesday, Trump told a news conference in Florida that if elected he would consider recognizing Crimea as part of Russia, as well as the lifting sanctions imposed against Russia over the developments in Ukraine.
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http://tass.ru/en/politics/891262