Crow posted:
But why does it make any difference? Is this the difference between deception, which presupposes and distorts truth, and error, which is the temporal structure of truth?
This might give my alma mater away but whatever.
The poly-sci department once hired this miracle of a professor. They triple-checked his references and all his paperwork. He had a doctorate from an Ivy League school, extensive experience teaching abroad, and connections with some of the world's most prominent philosophers. The hiring committee loved his dissertation and contributions to the field. He knew his shit, the rest of the department loved having meaningful conversations with him about theory and their methods of teaching it. Beyond that, the students loved him and considered him a great teacher and tough but fair grader. On one occasion, he took academic leave to receive some kind of dignifying "knighthood" from the Euro-country he used to teach at.
This is where the entire charade fell apart. Upon further research and calls to his actual supposed university's registrars it came out that he was completely self-taught and had no degree. He had wrote those papers and lived in foreign places, but not published them, or held full time positions. He had instead convinced other people that he had the positions he claimed. And furthermore he had convinced his entire family and social network, along with some prominent individuals - of his charade.
This is where I chimed in and asked -
"You said he was knowledgeable and fantastic at the job, so what is the big deal?"
This stumped the class - most people said he got the job dishonestly. But he already had been teaching and grading for a good while - and doing fantastic according to his peers.
The discussion devolved into some kind of talk on legitimate authority and the importance of going through authority that society sets up for you which as LF has taught me anything it is to lol at that prospect.
What do you think?
discipline posted:
Horse_ebooks is just a guy pretending to be a spambot. Sorry to bust your bubble.
YOU DONT KNOW
*runs away crying*
germanjoey posted:
whats Horse_ebooks precious
NounsareVerbs posted:
This might give my alma mater away but whatever.
The poly-sci department once hired this miracle of a professor. They triple-checked his references and all his paperwork. He had a doctorate from an Ivy League school, extensive experience teaching abroad, and connections with some of the world's most prominent philosophers. The hiring committee loved his dissertation and contributions to the field. He knew his shit, the rest of the department loved having meaningful conversations with him about theory and their methods of teaching it. Beyond that, the students loved him and considered him a great teacher and tough but fair grader. On one occasion, he took academic leave to receive some kind of dignifying "knighthood" from the Euro-country he used to teach at.
This is where the entire charade fell apart. Upon further research and calls to his actual supposed university's registrars it came out that he was completely self-taught and had no degree. He had wrote those papers and lived in foreign places, but not published them, or held full time positions. He had instead convinced other people that he had the positions he claimed. And furthermore he had convinced his entire family and social network, along with some prominent individuals - of his charade.
This is where I chimed in and asked -
"You said he was knowledgeable and fantastic at the job, so what is the big deal?"
This stumped the class - most people said he got the job dishonestly. But he already had been teaching and grading for a good while - and doing fantastic according to his peers.
The discussion devolved into some kind of talk on legitimate authority and the importance of going through authority that society sets up for you which as LF has taught me anything it is to lol at that prospect.
What do you think?
It's not about him, it's about the social effect - now that it's known he faked his way in successfully, letting him stay encourages other people to attempt to fake their ways in. An increase in fakers means an increase in bad applicants and bad hires. I mean practically speaking they can't keep him because they'd be admitting that their programs don't make any difference. The only solution of course is the Singularity.
As far as horse_ebooks goes, so what if there is an Impostor now injecting itself? the fiction here is constitutive, without it there is not a 'spambot', but less than nothing. it's interesting to imagine a spambot with an algorithm as being constitutive of some amusing kind of Truth, but isnt it an Impostor that presupposes Truth itself? Mods?
NounsareVerbs posted:Crow posted:
But why does it make any difference? Is this the difference between deception, which presupposes and distorts truth, and error, which is the temporal structure of truth?This might give my alma mater away but whatever.
The poly-sci department once hired this miracle of a professor. They triple-checked his references and all his paperwork. He had a doctorate from an Ivy League school, extensive experience teaching abroad, and connections with some of the world's most prominent philosophers. The hiring committee loved his dissertation and contributions to the field. He knew his shit, the rest of the department loved having meaningful conversations with him about theory and their methods of teaching it. Beyond that, the students loved him and considered him a great teacher and tough but fair grader. On one occasion, he took academic leave to receive some kind of dignifying "knighthood" from the Euro-country he used to teach at.
This is where the entire charade fell apart. Upon further research and calls to his actual supposed university's registrars it came out that he was completely self-taught and had no degree. He had wrote those papers and lived in foreign places, but not published them, or held full time positions. He had instead convinced other people that he had the positions he claimed. And furthermore he had convinced his entire family and social network, along with some prominent individuals - of his charade.
This is where I chimed in and asked -
"You said he was knowledgeable and fantastic at the job, so what is the big deal?"
This stumped the class - most people said he got the job dishonestly. But he already had been teaching and grading for a good while - and doing fantastic according to his peers.
The discussion devolved into some kind of talk on legitimate authority and the importance of going through authority that society sets up for you which as LF has taught me anything it is to lol at that prospect.
What do you think?
The production and reproduction of Legitimate Authority is the only leg that academia has to stand on when faced with the onslaught of so-called 'digital nativism': it is the only desire it foments and the only commodity it has for sale. The desire to master one's mind and processes is better served by self-directed study, the desire to experience intoxication is mainstream, the desire to rape drunk teenagers is better served by porn, and while all three desires retain a symbolic link with the academy it is a symbolism residing fully formed within those desires themselves requiring no further material input (such as library cards or lecturers). I'm sure Zizek would say this was the object petit a of academy or something, so go nuts with that if you like.
What is left for academy is the capitalist subject's need to prove its interpellation in order to realise it perfectly and become a respectable member of society. Your unqualified lecturer's competency is irrelevant to the fact that he has independently bypassed the academy's symbolic monopoly on knowledge and exposed its true monopoly product - the ideological subject. For this is must pay the ultimate price. Yes, the uuultimate priiiice.
tpaine posted:
man FUCK horse ebooks. i am still furious about this.
I was eating some candy corn which reminded me of horse murder which reminded me of this fucked up forums incident.
