#281
poor mustang
#282
"fertilizers come from oil" is a well known internet myth that makes absolutely no sense in terms of chemistry
#283
mustang taking over other accounts is like what goatstein says about trans people except its actually true: you can always, always tell in a half second that someone's transitioned into a 'stang
#284
unfortunatrely mustang is exploiting a weakness in SQL - that the three most common passwords are love, secret, and sex, although not necessarily in that order. and don't forget about god
#285
haha i like theidea of the guy whose password for everything is SEX
#286
lmao this thread got just got creepy as hell

thanks mustang
#287
it's really sad and funny that you're willing to hack into someone else's account to make posts that no one is going to take seriously anyways.


that's some real dedication to being a creepy loser imo
#288
i have no problem with the libertarian permaculture movement and, not that it matters, but i'm not rc.

unrelated lolz

http://skepteco.wordpress.com/category/permaculture/

I became fascinated by both the science and the sociology, politics and psychology. I went on holiday to the US and visited Pam and Raoul at their home in California, and got to see Pam’s lab where I met my first transgenes. I engaged in countless debates on Facebook, Twitter and blog threads. I lost many long-standing friends and to some extent have become estranged from my community. I have been constantly surprised by the viciousness and blatant dishonesty people I previously respected have been willing to engage in in order to defend their irrational beliefs. It turns out that the anti-science of the Greens is not progressive and “left-wing” but rather betrays a deeply conservative, traditionalist and reactionary mindset. GMOs are just a form of advanced plant breeding; historically, new methods of breeding have often been opposed by the status quo.
Activists can only see things in simplistic black-and-white terms and absurd conspiracy theories. Theirs is a darkly narcissistic and negative view of humanity which they seem to despise, in contrast to the assumed purity of Nature which they revere, oblivious to how Nature only seems sublime when you have a full belly.

#289
lol fuckin nub doesn't understand the Haber–Bosch process, thinks nitrogen just gets fixed outta nowhere, "doesn't require fossil fuels"

also nobody here has said anything about gmos, mustang
#290
gmos are rad + good if used properly, unfortunately they are generally not used properly
#291
A WELL KNOWN INTERNET MYTH!!
#292

lol fuckin nub doesn't understand the Haber–Bosch process, thinks nitrogen just gets fixed outta nowhere, "doesn't require fossil fuels"



it doesn't, it can also use "green energy" (although that doesn't work rite)

also nobody here has said anything about gmos, mustang



okay

#293
mustang nows your chance to break out by trading your boring post style for a severe parody of bhpn
#294
also im going to guess that joey knows to use params args so c/ping injection queries from six year old sites probably isnt your best approach here, and in any case youre going to want to switch up your reflexive equation so its less obvious that you dont know what youre doing
#295

also im going to guess that joey knows to use params args so c/ping injection queries from six year old sites probably isnt your best approach here, and in any case youre going to want to switch up your reflexive equation so its less obvious that you dont know what youre doing



sorry i didnt even know what that button is

#296
lol what tool are you using
#297

daddyholes posted:

lol what tool are you using

WebCruiser

#298
all hitherto class struggle has been the history of defending asian females from white males. although marx never talked about interracial relationships im pretty sure he realized it was a problem considering he lived in 19th century england where the atmosphere was full of coal fog.
#299
try the latest kali and buy a book so you know which are the "this hasnt worked since bush" menu items. good uck
#300

Maoist_Third_World_Sex_Tourist posted:

all hitherto class struggle has been the history of defending asian females from white males. although marx never talked about interracial relationships im pretty sure he realized it was a problem considering he lived in 19th century england where the atmosphere was full of coal fog.



youve got to be strident about how no one in the west can be socialist. punch the keys.

#301
the only true communists ive ever met are the cambodian child prostitutes i saw during my revolutionary travels. no first worlder can possibly no what its like to labor for 0.03 cents an hour in an illegal thai brothel, but its something every first worldist should see for themselves

screw that

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#302
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#303
If you're going to brag about how you visited a third world country and looked into the eyes of a child prostitute you shouldn't call her a communist or make jokes about it imo.

edit: oh it's a joke. well sometimes I can't tell okay!!!!


In other news I finally got my hands on a black locust tree and planted it. It took me a while to find one but this cool dude who has his own nursery out in the hill country sold me one. I'm going to go crazy one day and probably plant cuttings all around the city.

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#304
gorilla gardening
#305

dank_xiaopeng posted:

gorilla gardening

Now that is the sort of refreashing, zany banter I come here for. 5.

#306
dont chimp out
#307
im just monkeying around swampman, ya big ape!!!
#308
Was it Jane Goodall who terrorized nearby villagers with masks and claimed that she would put curses on them whenever they tried to harvest food because she didn't want them interacting with the gorillas or was that some other lady?

#309
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#310
crazy ass white ladies, i'm tellin' ya
#311
Nope. It was Dian Fossey.

http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/1986/09/fatal-obsession-198609

#312
reviving this thread cuz i need somewhere to vent about my plants

I don't have a grow light so my seedlings are getting leggy on the windowsill and it's makin me mad anxious. I genuinely can't afford a light set-up right now, it might be cheaper for me just to buy the plants that don't do well

HOWEVER I should have evening primrose, morning glory, yellow plum tomatoes, two kinds of black russian tomatoes, basil, dill, cilantro, sunflowers, brassicas (purple & green broccoli, kale, chard etc.), beets, radishes, lettuce, blue podded peas, scarlet runner beans, mesclun mix, spinach, calendula and coreopsis if things go well/my soil isn't utter shit

I'm making soil amendments from free shit -- I have some compost on the go, some leaves breaking down in a pile and a batch of nettles that I foraged brewing into fertilizer. apparently urine is an amazing free fertilizer too

I'm really really really anxious about the quality of the soil. it's pretty sandy, I had to rip out years of ragweed rhizomes in the last couple weeks and ragweed is an indicator that there's very few nutrients present. I don't have a lot of money to establish this garden and I'm worried that even if I add rock dust, kelp and compost mulch I'll still be struggling this summer

anyway I'm happy I found this thread cause I love the points tsinava raised and it's something I just started studying last month or so

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#313

Dargydoof posted:

I've seen the three sisters used in family owned fields back when I was visiting former Yugoslavia. Other than that I saw no other plant mixing. I've been thinking about keeping chickens here in the city but I feel if I don't get a rooster along with the hens it won't be worth it. I'm sure a rooster would bring a lot of complaints with the noise it makes in the morning too. Do chickens have trouble surviving in cold temperatures? It doesn't get that cold in the balkans but Canada is a different story.



late to this but breeds like the buff orpington are super fluffy so they stay warmer during the winter (also they cute & very friendly) however you'll still need to make an insulated coop

#314
yeah, you'll probably have a fair to middling year. you should get on top of adding soil amendments now because they're cumulative over time! as you start planting focus on amendments that pack an immediate punch if you want to beef up your soil quick for the seedlings. liquid amendments like your nettle brew, your piss, and compost tea deliver your goodies quickly and help them infiltrate the soil where the roots can get them instead of sitting on top of the soil. as your plants grow you can build up soil health by topdressing with compost and adding organic matter like a good leaf mulch. i find that pelleted organic fertilizer like milorganite (filtered and kilned sewage sludge) work well for short-term boosts to poor soil.

one thing that i've had massive, wild successes with is lasagna gardening/sheet mulching where you pile up alternating layers of organic material and nitrogen sources and compost it in place on top of your garden soil.

i've turned a weedy, overgrown lot with dogshit sandy soil into a very healthy garden. since it sounds like you have a source for dead leaves, this would be a great thing to consider starting this fall so it can be ready for next season. don't worry too much about adding manure if you can't get it, any good nitrogen source works well. i cheated and used cheap pelleted organic fertilizer and it worked very,very well. sheet mulching also has the added bonus of suppressing weeds very well and and acting as a sponge. the fluffy organic matter retains quite a bit of water and drastically reduces my need for irrigation. it's really amazing how well it works, after a year it breaks down into this increadibly rich, loamy soil. i have thousands of worms just wrigglin away in there.
#315
gardenchat


my partner and i's home and community garden plots are going to be ~baller as fuk~ this year. we've gotten our soil into really good shape and it's paying off. we're going to be real busy canning and preserving!

right now we've got greens going strong: three kinds of lettuce (salad bowl, buttercrunch, and schweitzer's mescher bibb), arugula, siberian kale, spinach, and chard. we've also got a few rows of shallots and onions coming up really well.

we're going to be planting two 30 foot rows of heirloom tomatoes, two rows of bell peppers, a few tomatillos, some jalapeños and habaneros, two rows of green beans, a row of black beans, a row of cranberry beans, sweet corn, red dent corn, and popcorn, a few summer squash, watermelon, and a huge cucumber trellis

we're hoping to meet all of our own produce needs this summer and into the fall and winter if we can can/freeze enough. if we have too much to process ourselves we have hungry friends to give our veggies to

#316

tsinava posted:

Nope. It was Dian Fossey.

http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/1986/09/fatal-obsession-198609




the Rwandans are a peaceful people who abhor violence.

lmao

#317
futurewidow if your seedlings are leggy you could just put them outside in the sun for a few hours during the day and then bring them inside in the evening
#318
buff orpington
#319

dank_xiaopeng posted:

yeah, you'll probably have a fair to middling year. you should get on top of adding soil amendments now because they're cumulative over time! as you start planting focus on amendments that pack an immediate punch if you want to beef up your soil quick for the seedlings. liquid amendments like your nettle brew, your piss, and compost tea deliver your goodies quickly and help them infiltrate the soil where the roots can get them instead of sitting on top of the soil. as your plants grow you can build up soil health by topdressing with compost and adding organic matter like a good leaf mulch. i find that pelleted organic fertilizer like milorganite (filtered and kilned sewage sludge) work well for short-term boosts to poor soil.

one thing that i've had massive, wild successes with is lasagna gardening/sheet mulching where you pile up alternating layers of organic material and nitrogen sources and compost it in place on top of your garden soil.



lasagna gardening sounds like a good option for me but is it too late to start? I was thinking i wouldn't start feeding liquid fertilizers into the soil until the plants were in the ground cause I don't want any of that liquid to run off... is that a good plan or should I just go ahead and start adding?

I don't know how long I'll be on this land for since I'm just renting, I could be somewhere else next summer cause utilities just keep going up and up. I like the idea of leaving good soil behind me though,

gyrofry posted:

buff orpington





look @ these fluffy butts

#320

futurewidow posted:

dank_xiaopeng posted:
yeah, you'll probably have a fair to middling year. you should get on top of adding soil amendments now because they're cumulative over time! as you start planting focus on amendments that pack an immediate punch if you want to beef up your soil quick for the seedlings. liquid amendments like your nettle brew, your piss, and compost tea deliver your goodies quickly and help them infiltrate the soil where the roots can get them instead of sitting on top of the soil. as your plants grow you can build up soil health by topdressing with compost and adding organic matter like a good leaf mulch. i find that pelleted organic fertilizer like milorganite (filtered and kilned sewage sludge) work well for short-term boosts to poor soil.

one thing that i've had massive, wild successes with is lasagna gardening/sheet mulching where you pile up alternating layers of organic material and nitrogen sources and compost it in place on top of your garden soil.


lasagna gardening sounds like a good option for me but is it too late to start? I was thinking i wouldn't start feeding liquid fertilizers into the soil until the plants were in the ground cause I don't want any of that liquid to run off... is that a good plan or should I just go ahead and start adding?

I don't know how long I'll be on this land for since I'm just renting, I could be somewhere else next summer cause utilities just keep going up and up. I like the idea of leaving good soil behind me though,



hmm if you're moving lasagna gardening prolly isn't the best bet, it should be started in the fall since it takes time to break down.

don't worry too much about your liquid amendments running off, if you don't do it before it rains and apply it slowly so it percolates into the soil you'll be fine. you'll want to start at least 2 weeks before you plant to get soil microbial activity up. as soon as you plant keep feeding and topdress your seedlings with compost and leaf mulch.

pro tip: don't waste money on rock dust from organic garden stores, it's hilariously overpriced. go to a concrete/construction supply place that sells gravel and you can get it for like 3 dollars for a cubic foot lol