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Have the BRICS nations committed acts of neocolonialism against the rest of the developing world? And if so, what does this mean to third worldist thought? Something about labor aristocracy?
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Neocolonialism is the practice of using capitalism, globalization, and cultural forces to control a country (usually former European colonies in Africa or Asia) in lieu of direct military or political control.
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vampire christ.
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okay, let's put it this way: neocolonialism is what happens when a country, usually one with a strong economy and military and diplomatic clout, exploits the resources of a country in the developing world, often under the guise of economic development of the latter country.
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you tell me http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MJ26Df03.html
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neocolonialism is when the colonized country has apparent political independence
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i'd like to hear how people think japan figures into all this, particularly w/r/t their complex relationship with brazil. i could elaborate on that relationship but i don't know a lot about their standing in this overall thing

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Didn't you already make this thread? I don't think you understand what third worldism is despite it being a very simple concept. In addition to core and periphery countries there are semi-peripheral countries, third world people's within the first world, rich comprador bourgeoise within the third world, and unique relationships between countries and people's throughout history. Third worldism, like anything else, requires historical analysis, clarity and precision of thought, and is not a dogmatism or neat formula for understanding the whole world.

Even during the British empire Argentina and Brazil exploited Paraguay, Uruguay, Venezuela and the rest of South America even while themselves being exploited. Imperialism has always functioned in this way. Also these economies are trying to become part of the global Empire and gain the spoils of the neo-colonial system that is already in place, I'm not sure what's interesting about "BRICS" other than an arbitrary categorization by bourgeois economists and the politicians who want to use xenophobia and american exceptionalism to distract from the exportation of labor to the third world and the financialization of the first world economies.
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If after a long time like a century the BRICS or their successor states are able to replace the old nations, would the U.S. and Europe then become comprador states?
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vampirarchist posted:
If after a long time like a century the BRICS or their successor states are able to replace the old nations, would the U.S. and Europe then become comprador states?


To be honest, the way these financial and neoliberal crises are going presently may very well lead to the US becoming something like that, though it'll likely be a massive conflagration.. I don't see that off the table in the next half century

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:)
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lol BRICS and Zionism

An international opinion survey has shown that India is the most pro-Israel country in the world. In more current times, conservative Indian parties and organizations tend to support Zionism. This has invited attacks on the Hindutva movement by parts of the Indian left opposed to Zionism, and allegations that Hindus are conspiring with the "Jewish Lobby."



sounds like Israel will always have a friend in the form of a big capitalist democracy

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vampirarchist posted:
lol BRICS and Zionism

An international opinion survey has shown that India is the most pro-Israel country in the world. In more current times, conservative Indian parties and organizations tend to support Zionism. This has invited attacks on the Hindutva movement by parts of the Indian left opposed to Zionism, and allegations that Hindus are conspiring with the "Jewish Lobby."


sounds like Israel will always have a friend in the form of a big capitalist democracy


naxalite struggle is an anti-zionist struggle

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vampirarchist posted:
sounds like Israel will always have a friend in the form of a big capitalist democracy


that's a weird lesson to take away from this

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Wow I wonder what India would get out of propping up Israel. Fuck Knows bruv
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Israeli advisors
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Groulxsmith posted:

vampirarchist posted:
sounds like Israel will always have a friend in the form of a big capitalist democracy

that's a weird lesson to take away from this



also maybe religious lobbies in big neoliberal non-Muslim countries love supporting Israel?

oh who are we kididng, in like forty years once the theocracy falls, Neo-Persia's ruling Second White Revolutionary Party will be a staunch supporter of Israel too at the expense of the Arabs

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vampirarchist posted:

Groulxsmith posted:

vampirarchist posted:
sounds like Israel will always have a friend in the form of a big capitalist democracy

that's a weird lesson to take away from this

also maybe religious lobbies in big neoliberal non-Muslim countries love supporting Israel?

oh who are we kididng, in like forty years once the theocracy falls, Neo-Persia's ruling Second White Revolutionary Party will be a staunch supporter of Israel too at the expense of the Arabs



Israel are valued as allies because they provide the best connections for counter-insurgency intel, technology and expertise. India has the massive Naxalite rebellion, Kashmir and black ops in its own borders and in Pakistan to conduct.

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Some Indian Muslims have also expressed opposition to Islamic anti-Zionism. In August 2007, a delegation of the All India Organization of Imams and mosques led by Maulana Jamil Ilyas visited Israel. The meet led to a joint statement expressing "peace and goodwill from Indian Muslims", developing dialogue between Indian Muslims and Israeli Jews, and rejecting the perception that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is of a religious nature. The visit was organized by the American Jewish Committee. The purpose of the visit was to create meaningful debate about the status of Israel in the Muslim eyes worldwide, and strengthen the relationship between India and Israel. It is suggested that the visit could "open Muslim minds across the world to understand the democratic nature of the state of Israel, especially in the Middle East".



and this is also a kinda interesting article: Muslim Zionism

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giving credence to the idea that capitalism has some inherent affinity for israel is incorrect imo. if it became expedient tomorrow for a one-state solution ruled by palestinian neoliberal flunkies, i really doubt the states most friendly to zionism would really care. they would move on and embrace the next stage of the relationship much like they did transitioning from apartheid-era south africa to ANC rule.

even politically in the u.s. where you would think it could matter, you look at some weird concept like christian zionism that is the basis for much of it and you realize how much an invention of the recent past and theologically baseless it really is
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israel was founded under the auspices of soviet allegiance