on one hand, this could fix the server problems (we'd move from a 32bit -> 64bit processor, our memory would increase from 336 megs to 512 megs, and it would be "allocated better", whatever that means). we'd also then have the option to go up to a gig of memory for an extra 18 bucks a month. im not willing to pay that (i already pay 18 bucks a month for the hosting + the extra memory), but if someone was interested in chipping in, this is on the table.
on the other hand, the transfer could get fucked up, and id have to request that they revert it.
so, at best the site would be down for a single evening, and then magically it works really great the next day. at worst, could mean the site is down for a couple days straight with no improvement. most likely, in either scenario, search will be permanently broken; I remember having to hack at the software a bit, but don't remember what exactly I did. if remake for the indexer fails, Ima just disable the feature. sorry.
what say you all.
ATTENTION: Sorry, but there is a 10 second search timeout to prevent malicious attacks. Wait a few more seconds and try your search again!
what uses up all the memory. is there a memory shortage or some reason to pay for more memory the gig of it
ilmdge posted:i wouldnt worry about search. oes search actually work? I don't think ive ever got anything other than:
ATTENTION: Sorry, but there is a 10 second search timeout to prevent malicious attacks. Wait a few more seconds and try your search again!
what uses up all the memory. is there a memory shortage or some reason to pay for more memory the gig of it
yes search works, you just have to wait 10 seconds before you search.
i'm not exactly sure what uses too much memory. it could be the search indexer. it could be poor indexing (or lack thereof on some table). however, what happens is that something DOES use a lot of memory, and then our host automatically kills the django process. that's when you see the 502 bad gateway message.
gyrofry posted:doesn't it keep going down because Joel is attacking it or w/e and if so would this fix it
does he still do that? is that what's happening?
germanjoey posted:gyrofry posted:doesn't it keep going down because Joel is attacking it or w/e and if so would this fix it
does he still do that? is that what's happening?
I don't think he does. Not my Joel.
germanjoey posted:gyrofry posted:doesn't it keep going down because Joel is attacking it or w/e and if so would this fix it
does he still do that? is that what's happening?
prob cycloneboys now
parabolart posted:can u check memory usage
sure, but i cant see what's actually causing the problem unless i install the django profiler and then trace throguh shitloads of log files. im not really willing to put that much effort in, sorry. if there was someone else here that was competent with code, and was also someone trustworthy, id be willing to give them the password to the server so they could do it. but alas, you're stuck with me.
germanjoey posted:parabolart posted:can u check memory usage
sure, but i cant see what's actually causing the problem unless i install the django profiler and then trace throguh shitloads of log files. im not really willing to put that much effort in, sorry. if there was someone else here that was competent with code, and was also someone trustworthy, id be willing to give them the password to the server so they could do it. but alas, you're stuck with me.
Try asking Computer_Jones.
getfiscal posted:thanks for paying cash money for a known hate site
its not! its virtual money. thats what makes it so easy.
http://thegrimoire.com/666/AnalCunt10/tabid/63/Default.aspx
Lessons posted:isn't 99% of the trouble shit that people can easily reset? why not make the default user able to do that rather than paying more money?
what?
shermanstick posted:im sure u could get a better deal on hosting
it's possible, but this place is still pretty good, and specially designed to support the web framework this site uses. (python django)
germanjoey posted:Lessons posted:isn't 99% of the trouble shit that people can easily reset? why not make the default user able to do that rather than paying more money?
what?
i thought the average error was something you or khasmek could reset with 1 click (like amazon 1 click checkout) rather than a deep problem.
rbanffy 1059 days ago | link
Your site may run fine with normal traffic, but increase to about 100 a minute and the site starts giving bad gateway errors. Be CONSISTENT in your errors, django
Like I said above, I am running 800 requests per second out of a two-server front-end + 1 backend for 18 hours with no error and no slowdown. You should monitor your machine carefully to identify problems. Maybe you are running too many HTTP listeners, maybe you are using mod_python instead of mod_wsgi. I won't troubleshoot your server for you.
kgrin 1059 days ago | link
Specifically with Webfaction, that's exactly what's going on; it has to do with the particulars of their typical Django setup on the shared hosting. (I've had the same "Bad Gateway" errors from PHP sites at Webfaction... it's very much a server setup issue, not anything to do with the code it's running.
hth
Lessons posted:germanjoey posted:Lessons posted:isn't 99% of the trouble shit that people can easily reset? why not make the default user able to do that rather than paying more money?
what?
i thought the average error was something you or khasmek could reset with 1 click (like amazon 1 click checkout) rather than a deep problem.
we can solve the problem by logging in with the root password and resetting the server. having that same password would also enable anyone to wipe the database clean, delete all the code, etc lol
check the cord
check... check if the cord is plugged into the wall.
parabolart posted:rbanffy 1059 days ago | link
Your site may run fine with normal traffic, but increase to about 100 a minute and the site starts giving bad gateway errors. Be CONSISTENT in your errors, django
Like I said above, I am running 800 requests per second out of a two-server front-end + 1 backend for 18 hours with no error and no slowdown. You should monitor your machine carefully to identify problems. Maybe you are running too many HTTP listeners, maybe you are using mod_python instead of mod_wsgi. I won't troubleshoot your server for you.
kgrin 1059 days ago | link
Specifically with Webfaction, that's exactly what's going on; it has to do with the particulars of their typical Django setup on the shared hosting. (I've had the same "Bad Gateway" errors from PHP sites at Webfaction... it's very much a server setup issue, not anything to do with the code it's running.
hth
it really doesn't help
getfiscal posted:i can help with this but first i need to know if the server is plugged in
check the cord
check... check if the cord is plugged into the wall.
please tell mom this is not her fault
germanjoey posted:Lessons posted:germanjoey posted:Lessons posted:isn't 99% of the trouble shit that people can easily reset? why not make the default user able to do that rather than paying more money?
what?
i thought the average error was something you or khasmek could reset with 1 click (like amazon 1 click checkout) rather than a deep problem.
we can solve the problem by logging in with the root password and resetting the server. having that same password would also enable anyone to wipe the database clean, delete all the code, etc lol
is there a way to let non-admins reset the server without giving them that access? if someone pays for potentially better hosting great but that may not even solve the problem...
Lessons posted:germanjoey posted:Lessons posted:germanjoey posted:Lessons posted:isn't 99% of the trouble shit that people can easily reset? why not make the default user able to do that rather than paying more money?
what?
i thought the average error was something you or khasmek could reset with 1 click (like amazon 1 click checkout) rather than a deep problem.
we can solve the problem by logging in with the root password and resetting the server. having that same password would also enable anyone to wipe the database clean, delete all the code, etc lol
is there a way to let non-admins reset the server without giving them that access? if someone pays for potentially better hosting great but that may not even solve the problem...
i think we'd be able to try it for a month and then revert back to the normal plan if it doesnt improve things. the way payment works is that you essentially pay into a reserve, and then every month money is subtracted from that based on the current upgrades you have selected.
swampman posted:Bring back search
you can search right now if you want to. you jsut have to wait 10 seconds before you search. i just tried it.
gyrofry posted:why not just move it to the cloud
it is on the cloud already. we're on a shared virtually-allocated server. that's what being on the cloud means.